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The Big and Dandy NBOMe-2C-C (25C-NBOMe) Thread

generally body weight doesn't play into these types of things as much as one would think.... dunno why that is. Gathering from what i've read here & elsewhere threshold insufflated or sublingual with surfactant is 100-200µg
 
mask + glove. its absorbed by the skin and its more true thank you think. dont try tio smell, nothing special.

No ceilling or patterning with this ?
 
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Lawrence said:
its absorbed by the skin and its more true thank you think.
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Have there actually been any reports of this happening or is it becuase the potency is similar to LSD that everyone assumes it works in the same way.

I saw a post on hipforums a while back with someone dissolving 200ug in water and then spreading it over his forearm. He said it gave him a slight rash but no other effects.
 
Don't waste it trying to get it to go through your skin. Not even LSD actually goes through the skin. It's a myth.
And yesterday I was talking to Nick Sand, and Nick said, "I made a solution of LSD in DMSO…" -- DMSO (dimethyl sulfoxide) is a chemical that greatly enhances absorption of other chemicals through the skin -- he says, "…I painted it on my skin. Nothing happened." A concentrated solution and nothing happened! How did this very meticulous Swiss chemist get the LSD into his body? I don't know.
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base or salt?

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should be vaporizing 250 mics tomorrow or monday, ill let u all know how it goes! wish me luck
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Can you tell us if the form of the NBOMe is the base or the salt (presumably HCl, if it is the salt)?

Thanks for any info!
 
doh! i should have based it before i tried smoking the bloter, what am i thinking! hmm that would be inefficient and dificult..

perhapse i shouldnt have tried it like this.


ok, so i cut a 500ug blotter square in two and layed a half on foil and vaporized it with two buddies of mine (they each had their respective half of a blotter also). in about five or so minutes i felt a different headspace. it took a while to feel much more than that and when i did it wasnt much. almost no visuals. way underdosed on that one. ill write up a good report.

on friday or saturday i will be trying an experiment with a full 500ug blotter and some lecithin
 
at this level it would be an awesome party aid.

god, music still sounds so AWESOME, crisp. flavorful. deep and spread, but not like butter, more like glass with crystals in the perpendicular. its like a subtle taste on your skin.

but its not so strong at this dose, a little over threshold. plus two on the shulgin scale perhapse. only the lightest visuals; if you close your eyes and relax and open them it appears as if things are simultaneously growing and shrinking.. its not like breathing, something sharper, then it fades. a big thing is a sense of smell. the sense washes over the whole body, its subtle though. real clean feeling, like 70-80ug of lsd and with no distinct "come up" it just kind of materializes out of thin air with no dificulty (for the mind), and only a litttttle queasyness in the stomach for about 12 mins. after that its not a body trip or a head trip. your clear headed, extremely lucid, and its almost like your body isnt there; it certainly isnt alarming, though you can still feel it like regular life, there isnt much to it other than when you take a deep breath and let your senses work real nice. a very good psychedelic feel all around. very specific though.

i can only imagine how a larger dose will play out :) (this isnt the report btw, just a few things jotted down)
 
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^^^ I had a complete and rolling plus 3 on 350mcg of the freebase vaporised. Came on fairly slowly still, (10 mins...slow compared to DMT!) lasted a good 5 hours with longer after effects, and was a beautiful and crisp experience. I had more of a mental trip than I was expecting, and I imagine a larger dose could be quite the fucking ego-crusher. Maybe it is the power of suggestion, but it indeed feels so much more specific of a psychedelic, so crisp and refined. Really nice compound all around, the most interesting new serotonergic I have tried in ages. Will all of the 2C's now grow an N-benzyloxy tail, is this part of the conspiracy? ;)

Don't attempt to smoke the freebase without a microgram scale. The stimulation and vasoconstriction present at 350mcg was by no means insignificant, and I imagine an overdose by this ROA would be very unpleasant, let alone potentially deadly.

Cheers
 
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i got mild vasoconstriction. i couldnt feel it but i could see my veins shrinking into my arm. i still felt strong. actually this would be very good for kung fu. felt like i could pull the energy right out of the ground and into my fist.

i would also like to mention i used an albuterol inhaler about an hour before the experiment. i got more effects than my two friends (they are also smokers, and i havent smoked in over a month)

my guess is most of it didnt absorb because it was in the salt form, what would be a good way to convert it to freebase and still be able to smoke it in that low of a quantity?

fryday im gonna eat it then the next experiment is going to be injection, going to do everything right of course so i dont inject bacteria or anything. im thinking of starting at 100ug IV
 
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^I never actually tried it but the following was told to me by vecktor in Advanced Drug Discussion regarding vaporizing DPT HCl:

"if quick and dirty freebasing is required just mix the salt well with sodium bicarbonate and then vapourise, the sodium bicarbonate will react as soon as the salt melts, freebasing the material."

It seems like you're not scared of needles, though, so I'd recommend just IMing as it's the easiest way to control the amount you're getting and there's zero material loss. Plus you respond to the dose quickly and consistently, which I find really important with 25C because you've got such a limited time to hit the level you're going for before tolerance pushes it out to reach. With vaporizing maybe you're getting near all of it, maybe some pyrolyzes some times and not others -- who knows?

I assume those who have vaporized it aren't getting any type of DMT "flash" like experience or rush?

P.S. Don't eat it IGNVS, it won't work that way.
 
Well truth be told, i got stronger effects from 200mcg of the HCl vaporized than 200mcg of the freebase! If this holds true after more experimentation than I would suggest there is decomposition happening with the freebase, although this is sort of counter-intuitive I Know. Frustrating one has to wait so long between experiments to get results that aren't totally skewed. . .

And to confuse matters more, I found the 350mcg of the fb vaped *much* stronger than 600mcg of the HCl taken intramuscularly. I don't know if due to its lipophilicity it is getting caught in the muscular fat and not making it to the brain in time before "gates close", but the difference in potency was dramatic. Curious how i.v. would pan out....but Psood, you had a friend who experimented with this and said 1mg was required? Hmmmm....

IGNVS - so you are vaping blotter? Do you know for sure if it is the FB or the HCl that is on the paper? I wouldn't bother with any sort of extraction in all honesty. I am assuming some vendor is selling pre-laid blotters? Crazy

So far I've only done the few experiments with the 25C and one shot at the 25B, which in all honesty I couldn't tell any difference between it and the 25C, but admittedly more work is needed before such conclusions are reached.

Oh and no, no DMT flash. A smooth transition over 5-10 minutes or so. Very nice.
 
^Interesting. Maybe I should try vaporizing, then. I might be able to do it soon. I'll post about the results when I do.

The IV experiment was not immaculately measured, but he was most definitely getting higher amounts than you are reporting needing for vaporization. I have to attribute it to variability in innate (not acquired) tolerance, which I agree is weird since both my friend and I react normally to most other psychedelics, but then again lots of things about this compound seem to be defying convention (e.g. the HCl more potent than the freebase for vaporizing). It seems like a lot of our reports could owe to inconsistent dosing due the difficulty of accurately measuring such small amounts and the compound's insane tolerance effects, but I'm not sure we'll ever know for sure.
 
^^^ Exactly, too many variables in this equation to even begin to conclude much.

somebody just pointed out to me that several vendors are stocking the freebase. Why I wonder? Were they hoping to corner the market on smokeable 25C? :D If so then it is hilarious that I had better success with the HCl. But, that could be a very premature conclusion on my part, based on only one experiment. Haven't really seen any other reports to base my experiences on yet either.
 
when i said eat it i meant like stick it in my gums after lubing up with some dishsoap (kiddn').
im gonna nom on that for a while not swallow the thing.
 
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