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The Big and Dandy NBOMe-2C-C (25C-NBOMe) Thread

I just held a lighter under the glass vial for a couple of seconds. It didn't even come close to boiling but I could see the powder dissolve. I'm guessing these compounds are pretty stable but don't quote me on that.
 
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soluble in RT tap water

Actually, a solution of 7 mg/ml in room temperature tap water was easily produced by putting in a small tube, adding water with a pipette and mixing up and down with the pipette. Complete dissolution to the listed concentration occurred in less than two minutes upon mixing. At this concentration, a "dripless" dose of 0.1 ml provides 700 ug.

I would definitely go sans heat before applying temp to such a precious substance.
 
Interesting, this almost raises more questions than it answers. I know people vary wildly in their responses to these compounds, but this is a bit much.
At first I assumed the wide reported variance in dose could be largely attributed to inaccuracy of measurement due to the submilligram dosages. Certainly that could still be true in some cases, though it looks more and more like the dose variance is genuine. Though the variance is unexpected when one considers the narrower dose response effect of phenethylamines, massive dose response differences are not unheard of with psychoactives in general, e.g. 5X salvia sends me to another world, but 6Xs that, 30X, may only be enough for another person to feel body tingles. I had half assumed this might be due to natural variation in the number of kappa opioid receptors in different people's brains, but on second consideration it seems strange that if kappa opioid agonism has such a radical effect on human consciousness that it should vary so drastically as holding such an assumption would imply. Perhaps adding the NBOMe alters the properties of the molecule such that it is subject to unexpected bottlenecking points during its journey through the body. I'm curious to hear any empirically supported theories people have to explain the wide variance of dosage with this (or any drug, actually -- as I'm not that well versed in pharmacology).
 
I agree too, Insufflation is the way to go with this compound. Sub-lingual just wasn't having the effect I was reading about in some reports. Could feel something but wasn't very impressed. Insufflation almost blew me away at the difference 8o lol
 
my 450µg sublingual dose was a bit underwhelming, still enjoyed it don't get me wrong, but i definitely want to go farther. Planning to try liquid insufflation in the next couple of days. I should have no tolerance as my last psychedelic experience was 12mg of 4-HO-MET 15 days ago. I'm thinking 500-800µg insufflated in 0.5mL filtered tap water should be a nice strong dose, haven't decided on an exact amount yet, and i'm thinking some will likely be lost as its hard to keep up with every µg, ha. What all doses & techniques have you guys tried for liquid insufflation aside from the ones mentioned?
 
I always wonder if I'm losing any insufflated, I do get a little drip in the back of my throat, barely noticeable, but with such small amounts of compound barely can be a lot. I definitely know I'm losing sub-lingual.

Doses I've tried have been ~0.5-1mg (insufflated), higher doses if I've built up any tolerance, and you build tolerance to this quick. It is not worth it to do this 2 days in a row, at least in my opinion.

I think my next experiment will be IM, I'm wondering if it is even worth it to try this one IV?
 
liquid insufflation definitely blew sublingual out of the water, though i did double my dose from the previous session as well. Came up pretty quickly, felt the effects in <5min & was having some interesting visual activity at 20. Interesting euphoric push at that level as well, I usually feel at least some anxiety when on any psychedelic, especially during the come up, this was totally anxiety-free. I did have a few beers before i dosed, but that isn't a terribly uncommon thing for me to do. Gonna write up a TR in a little while.
 
I took ~750 ug intramuscularly followed by ~250 ug IM about a half an hour later. I think I prefer this compound's doses staggered like this, otherwise, as others have alluded to, by this ROA at this dosage level the speedy onset can have you second guessing the accuracy of your measurement during the come up (never a pleasant experience). I can say, again, though, that for me 1 mg IM with little or no tolerance puts me at a low plus three.

It's combining quite nicely with ketamine. I'm going to watch "Secret of the Kells," now. This should be a splendid snowy evening.
 
Does anyone know if the freebase is soluble in water or whether it will degrade if stored in water. I think vaping the freebase would be to difficult to get an accurate dose and was going to use rectal ROA.
 
I don't think its worth it to do rectal for such a small amount, but that's me.

As a side note, I did some 4-aco-mipt and it wasn't taking off like I would have hoped so I thought I'd do a little 25c-nbome to help out. Wow was I in for a surprise, great combo. Everything is so wavy and very euphoric. I'm 3 hours in and still having a blast lol
 
^I get why you say that. Rectal administration's advantages are chiefly in that it avoids the drip, the burn, and the congestion of nasal administration while typically being more potent than oral. It makes a lot of sense for a lot of compounds. But when you're using 1 mg or less those disadvantages of nasal administration aren't really a factor. For such a small amount nasal is simply faster than preparing an oral syringe and a solution and sticking it up one's ass and then having to wash the syringe off, and that's plenty sufficient to argue for its superior convenience over rectal.
 
I don't have a milligram scale and was thinking of starting a 0.5mg and was going to dilute it and use a syringe to measure it out and it seemed easier to squirt it up my ass than to snort the fluid
 
Even if you have a microgram scale, I think it is easier to dilute and plugging to snort the liquid.
 
Freebases of any chem are typically insoluble in water, I believe.
 
Would be soluble in say Vodka... not sure I'm keen on using that rectally though or could I add citric or ascorbic acid to the water to get it dissolve?
 
Yes, acidifying a solution would convert it to a salt that would be water soluble. I'm by no means an expert with NBOMe's, so someone else may have more helpful advice, but I feel this would be preferable to attempting with alcohol.

ADD: Someone else with more experience should elaborate on which liquid would be best for what you're looking for. If it were me, I'd salt it.
 
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