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The Big and Dandy HBWR/MGS/LSA Thread (Archive start - 4-14-2008)

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WTF seizures from morning glory>?!?

OK, today i gave my friend about 200 morning glory heavenly blue seeds coffee ground and put into capsules.


she takes them at 4pm, everything seemed fine. a normal trip


its 11pm right now, and her mum just calls me, she just had a fucking seizure?!??!



W T F



me, and other friends (including her) have taken these seeds many times before and have had no adverse reactions. Im just wandering whaat could of caused her to have a seizure???


Its lucky her mum was a nurse, and that she didnt totally flip out and call my parents etc. im still fucking shaking right now....



should i go talk to her mum tomorow and apologize? or should i just leave it?


Fuck.
 
sounds like your friend had a bad reaction, maybe an OD or something related to another substance, what are you apologizing for?
 
gloggawogga said:
MG seeds can have a lot of side effects. I wouldn't be surprised if raising siezure thresholds is one of them.
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Other psychedelics can also cause siezures in some people. There are reports of siezures from mushrooms and some other psychedelics on erowid. I think this could occur with any psychedelic, maybe MG and HBWR seeds are more likely than others to cause it, I don't know. It seems to be a rare occurrence in any event.
 
Lots of tryptamines cause muscle tremors and uncontrollable shaking. Probably could be a sign that the seizure threshold is lowered.

Also my 2CB +hydergine (and piracetam) trip made me think that I might have a seizure (I seriously could not stop shaking).
 
got a txt from the friend this morning

"jst so u know i fainted twice last night then had a seizure. i cant stop shaking and my room is flashing. my hearts racing like i just ran a marathon and im unusually skinny"

:(


i txt'd her back asking if she was on any medications/lithium and if she wanted me to come over to see her.............got a txt back from her mum basically telling me to fuck off!! haha


i think its best for me just to leave it for now,

i still have about ~300 ground seeds left in capsules - should i keep them or throw them out?
 
^I think it's safe to say if her mom knows then she's probably not in any danger. If anything happens, her mom will take care of it, don't ya think? As far as whether or not to keep the remaining seeds, I would say keep 'em but not if their gonna make you uncomfortable.
 
JimiHawK* said:
i still have about ~300 ground seeds left in capsules - should i keep them or throw them out?
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you should first find out if she is on medications.

sumatriptan is another bad mix, I think.
 
Here is a pic of LSAs.

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Hawaiin Baby Woodrose

I have around 20 clean Argyreia Nerverosa seeds that I plan to consume soon. I was told 6 - 8 seeds would be plenty for my first time with LSA, however I am very experienced with LSD and pcylacybin mushrooms, and was thinking about chewing all 20 with some ginger to help with nausea. Is this a good idea and what are your experiences with this substance. Can it be prepared into a tea or with white spirits or is chewing and eventually swallowing my best bet for consuming.
 
6-8 is plenty for your first time. 20 seeds would be an extremely high dose of LSA, and one that I imagine would be overwhelming even to a seasoned psychedelic user.
 
Method: Scrape off all fuzz. Take 4-10 seeds minimum, any more or less is kind of pointless, unless you have extremely variant potentcy. I have heard that extremely high doses of these seeds can cause some kind of internal bleeding, there are a few nasty trip reports on erowid, who knows?

Grind up seeds, to a fine powder. Place in 16 oz of water, with 2 tablespoons citric acid (lime juice), shake, and let sit for a day or two in a dry cool dark spot.
Remember to shake it as often as possible.

After 24-48 hours has passed (I let mine sit for a week)
Take a coffee filter or a clean tshirt and filter the seed powder out.

You now have a pretty decent extraction of LSA, without some of the other chemicals that cause nausea or other negativities.

Drink on an empty stomach, take 1 sea-sickness pill or ginger to help with any leftover nausea, strap in, enjoy.

Edit: I just finished making a new batch, and I always forget how much I LOATHE the smell of these things. Also, you might notice a pain in your hands while your cleaning off the fuzz, I assume this is from any cyanide? based chemicals entering through your skin, don't worry, it goes away within a half hour.
 
No. The 'fuzzy coating' is inert. It has been specifically looked at (check out a 1977 article in Psychoactive Encyclopedia with an EXTENSIVE article on HBWR) and the glycosides that cause nausea are inside the seed. Those who scrape seeds are wasting their time.

psychedelicious said:
^ cool, MGS

I heard that the baddies in the white fuzz between the pods and seeds of HBWR are toxic glucosamides... Is this right?
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