The Big and Dandy DXM Thread (archive start - 12-13-07)

[SaRz]

HCl

Man, its a pain in the ass having to down something acidic with the freebase for it to work. The whole reason i want freebase is so i can do it 'on the go' where i wont have acces to lime concentrate or alcohol. This week i will make DXM HCl and i was wondering where i could get Hydrochloric Acid...could i get it somewhere like...say..walgreens or a pharmacy? I dont have a credit card so i cant order it from internet or else i would. Any suggestions?

-Thanks

 

[Soma24]

I guess you could use citric acid rather than Hydrochloric, you can buy that in the baking isle of the supermarket here (Australia)

Although I would also be interested in getting some hydrochloric acid anyway, so please do post some suggestions people.

 

[SaRz]

Yea but..

Yea but if i made the lemon shit then it would prevent me from doing it on the go, in a pill form. I wanna pop a pill at school, walk home, and then start to trip with my friends. I am very much interested in the HCl aspect of things, its much more appealing, dont you guys agree?

*sigh* my asthma is acting up for the first time since i was 13
i cant even take a deep breath unless i yawn...

 

[Soma24]

You could use the citric acid in the same way you would use the HCL I would assume (though I could be wrong)

Dissolve some citric acid in a little distilled water, then put your DXM freebase in a little water. Drip in the citric acid solution until the DXM dissolves, then evaporate off the water and you should be left with DXM-Hydrocitrate salt.

Whack it in a capsule and you're good to go

 

[SaRz]

Hmm...this sounds like a good idea...
if i keep it out of the light the shelf life could last a few days right?
because i think i read somewhere that the extraction which uses citrus doesnt last very long...but reading so many things at once jumbles my memory and kinda compacts everything into one, so my recolection might be very wrong.

 

[mike_]

yea dude, weed's the shizz on dex. in fact if i take dxm without any weed i just get kinda manic, barely feel it at all, but hit some mary and pffffffffffff... gone...

yeah for sure. i dont think ill ever dex without weed

 

[rolls]

lol and whats that

 

[rolls]

Collins Dictionary definition: 'attitude of homeless people who sniff petrol'

Bahahah, thanks for that.

 

[Soma24]

Hmm...this sounds like a good idea...
if i keep it out of the light the shelf life could last a few days right?
because i think i read somewhere that the extraction which uses citrus doesnt last very long...but reading so many things at once jumbles my memory and kinda compacts everything into one, so my recolection might be very wrong.

I can't see any reason why it wouldn't last for ages if you keep it in your cupboard or something... I'd imagine the salt form would be reasonably stable

Now that you mention it, I do recall reading something about the Agent Lemon Juice not lasting too long, but I'm pretty sure that was unfounded and debunked

 

[rogan]

I think when agent lemon is made with lemon juice its the other organics besides the citric acid that limit its shelf life - doing it with distilled water and baking citric acid wouldn't have these issues.

 

[mike_]

Collins Dictionary definition: 'attitude of homeless people who sniff petrol'

1. The desire to be inebriated to the point of retardation.
2. No (or very little) respect for the drug or drugs in general.
3. A lack of understanding of what responsible recreational drug use is.
4. A child-like, self-abusive and careless mentality towards a dangerous drug.
5. A recurring sense of desperation and poverty.

i like how you came up with ridiculous generalizations about people who the extent of your knowledge of them are posts on the internet. good job

 

[SaRz]

Hmm

Thats what i find my conscience telling me during these times, but i find that i tend to get in this state because i need to get away. I need to get away from Junior year of high school in a school where kids drive $80k cars at the age of 16. I need to get away from people i have no interest in because they're ignorant and rich. I need to get away just to unwind and think about the world, sometimes more so than others. Honestly, i trip to the beach would do the trick, or tracking down a friend from elementary school which i haven't seen in many years and catch up with him/her. But sometimes, you have no means of taking a vacation. Responsibilities still apply to me, whether i like it or not. So, i try my best to find a way to kick it and relax, have some ME time, and if it means searching around for a day anxiously then ill do it.

I just think its human nature to be infatuated with something and go through a lengthy and ridiculous process to get it.

My 2 cents


-SaRz
( that was not a flame, btw )

 

[mulberryman]

Well since I've never even seen that forum (http://www.dextroverse.org/) before today, its hard to comment. If you intentions were to show a forum of stupid people or something, well, it would seem a good thread to post it in I've used DXM from time to time, though not so much nowadays, and except in incredibly large doses, I don't considere it any "harder" than cannabis, and likely far safer than ethanol.

This story is posted on their inside front page, here:
http://www.dextroverse.org/index2.shtml

Posted By : drdªv€, Posted On : Nov 6 2007, 11:44 AM

Monday, November 5th 2007, 8:34 PM

A Manhattan bookkeeper claims that over-the-counter cold medicine made him feel "strange and weird" just before he beat his 1-year-old daughter to death, a law enforcement source said today.

Peter O'Keeffe, 35, told cops he drank Robitussin cough medicine and took some type of herbal decongestant before killing daughter Jessica on Saturday in his Queens home, prosecutors said.

"He beat the baby, grabbed her by the neck...," prosecutor Mina Malik said at O'Keeffe's arraignment on a murder charge in Queens Criminal Court. "The baby was dropped face down."

O'Keeffe's wife, Louise Rojas-O'Keeffe, found Jessica when she arrived home from a shopping with friends. Jessica had bite marks on her body, prosecutors said.

Prosecutors said O'Keeffe told cops he lifted Jessica out of her crib and put her back in several times to stop her from crying. When she did not stop, he began shaking her and then dropped her head first on the floor, prosecutors said.

O'Keeffe said he laid down on the floor next to the baby, who was limp, prosecutors said.

"The baby was left bleeding from the head, then he left," Malik said, adding that O'Keeffe did not try to resuscitate the child despite her "devastating injuries."

"There's a history of mental illness in the family," defense attorney Michael Cibella said. "He needs treatment."

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime_file/2007/11/05/2007-11-05_dad_blames_cold_medicine_for_toddler_sla.html

This kind of shit really pisses me off how people always want to blame something other than theirselves for their own aggressive actions. I have never experienced negative emotions from DXM, and its assholes like this guy that allow other assholes to continue to legislate for us as to how we should live our lives. People just don't get it, any drug you want is available today today
(in America at least), and all you have to do is look for it. Its crazy, Hydromorphone is easier to get than cannabis. It really is a free world, and though that may scare some people, its really exciting from a more enlightened standpoint. I know that I'd rather my kids judge cannabis, or DXM, or anything else for themselves, rather than just accept some textbook scare-jargon as absolute truth. Thats the kind of dangerous attitude that wars get started over. Don't believe me, read this:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium_wars
The last paragraph of that article reads:

In 1860, at the Convention of Peking, China ratified the Treaty of Tientsin, ending the war, legalizing the import of opium, and granting a number of privileges to British (and other Western) subjects within China.

F*ckin' beautiful ending, imho. Maybe we can be hopeful for the future.

 

[Xorkoth]

Its crazy, Hydromorphone is easier to get than cannabis

Wow, I'd say that's entirely untrue for me (also in the US).

Good post though.

 

[Obyron]

Man, its a pain in the ass having to down something acidic with the freebase for it to work. The whole reason i want freebase is so i can do it 'on the go' where i wont have acces to lime concentrate or alcohol. This week i will make DXM HCl and i was wondering where i could get Hydrochloric Acid...could i get it somewhere like...say..walgreens or a pharmacy? I dont have a credit card so i cant order it from internet or else i would. Any suggestions?

-Thanks

Go to Lowes and buy a jug of Muriatic Acid. It's diluted HCl. It's useful for all sorts of things, like converting freebase drugs to acid salts, or getting stains out of concrete.

 

[Xorkoth]

Your stomach contains loads of hydrochloric acid... I am nearly positive you don't need to down something acidic to make a freebase work orally. But yeah, muriatic acid is what I use for such conversions. Although you can't drink it (or you can, but you really shouldn't!).

 

[SaRz]

So hydrochloric acid turns things into salts?
how does that work?
what are the parameters for which i can turn something into a salt?
If i remember correctly from chem class, a salt is a substance which is neutrally charged. HCl is an acid. I assume DXM is a base, since it needs acids to work the way we want it to. So, to form a salt i combine an acid and a base in equal amounts?? Is this right?

 

[SaRz]

Asthma/DXM

Ok, ive read somewhere on this gigantic forum that recreational use of DXM constricts the airways. I supposedly have had asthma since i was born ( was placed in intensive care unit at birth ) but have never had an asthma attack, at least not one of importance. I used an inhaler for 1 year only, and thats because they TOLD me too; i never felt the need.

Lately i cant take deep breaths
My upper back hurts

Will this antagonize my breathing problem? ( Dosing DXM )
Thanks Guys


SaRz

 

[mulberryman]

Your stomach contains loads of hydrochloric acid... I am nearly positive you don't need to down something acidic to make a freebase work orally. But yeah, muriatic acid is what I use for such conversions. Although you can't drink it (or you can, but you really shouldn't!).

yes, any more info on this would be most definitly interesting to know, maybe considering the whole sugar making it active faster phenomena.

..oh, yeah, hydromorphone/dilaudid is available online, though depending on which site you use, you may have to worry about it not being confiscated by customs, though more often than not it isn't, also there are domestic sites that carry it, but you can expect to pay... Cannabis on the other had would require I get my coat and shoes on, and actually leave the house, though more than likely I still wouldn't have to actually drive anywhere.

 

[mulberryman]

I'd personally rather buy my kids some mushrooms and tell them to stay away from DXM - or rather treat it with extreme caution.

Seriously? Wow, but it is really a matter of opinion and personal experience with each individual substance. Personally, I think I'd trust my kids with cough syrup on their own, and have enough sense not to pass out in school on the shit. Mushrooms on the other hand, like all true psychedelics, are a seriously intense experience, ime, and I would hope to have a chance to explain about to them about the right and wrong ways to use them first, though I'd prabaly like to explain to them about DXM as well, when the time comes. Hell my oldest is only 6, and they don't live with me currently...