Xorkoth
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I will leave this to someone who understands the pharmacology. In any case, I think it's probably doable to take small amounts of an SSRI + DXM, but I just couldn't recommend it.
The Big and Dandy DXM Thread (archive start - 12-13-07)
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don't mix it with an SSRI
if nausea is really a factor take some dramamine. a recreational dose of dxm + meclizine (dramamine 2; non drowsy formula) makes for one crazy trip. dxm was beginning to lose some of its awesomeness after doing it every day. i did this combo and got an insane ass trip. i'm sure you could hallucinate pretty well off of higher doses since there were trails on lights and whatnot from the meclizine. it was crazy.
if nausea is really a factor take some dramamine. a recreational dose of dxm + meclizine (dramamine 2; non drowsy formula) makes for one crazy trip. dxm was beginning to lose some of its awesomeness after doing it every day. i did this combo and got an insane ass trip. i'm sure you could hallucinate pretty well off of higher doses since there were trails on lights and whatnot from the meclizine. it was crazy.
Im neutral still on whether i like DXM or not, even after a few experiences. Ive done several drugs, ecstacy, shrooms, weed, MAOI's and a few others, so i know what im doing.
The first time i did DXM i did 2.5mg/lbs ( sorry dont feel like converting to kg )
and all i got was a mild drunk feeling with alot of itchyness. Nothing positive about it. I wasnt expecting much from music appreciation because i dont get it from drugs ive done even though i love music and it is my life. Oh, it was a 4oz. bottle.
The second time i cranked up a bit to 5mg/lbs and i got the same thing, maybe alittle more drunkeness and more itch.They were gelcaps. But i was persistent...
The third time i might have overdid it, thinking i lacked a certain enzyme that metabolises dxm. I took 8.3mg/lbs making the dose roughly 1,100mg. I took it in liquid form, thinking that maybe the liquid would hit me harder than the gelcaps. Guess what...it hit me VERY hard. I felt like a homeless man on PCP, and i was probably acting like it too.It was most intense thing ive experienced and i managed not to freak out ( as far as i knew ). The dissaciative properties were very prominent - timewarp, alice in wonderland effect, felt like i was two people and carried out conversations with myself, and the itching was there too...but i next time i will take Diphenhydramine to combat the itchiness, i had forgotten about the fact that DXM releases histamines and Diphenhydramine blocks them. When went to sleep around 2 am, i thought i was gonna be permanently like that, as if i OD'd and was stuck in my mess. During random times of night through my sleep, which was almost non-existent, i would wake up to people laughing and talking as if they were in my room. There was no one there...i then assumed it was coming from the window, but it sounded like it damn near my ear. Throught out the whole thing i thought my eyes were blue, and even took a fairly clos-up picture and it STILL looks blue to me, which is wierd cuz ive never heard of DXM changing eye color. My eyes were very blood shot too...oh and my eyes are naturally green, incase you were wondering what it switched from. I cant do DXM tonight, or this weekend, cuz i have shit to do, but next week i will dose it more carefully, somewhere around 800-900mg total and see how that plays out.
Never during any of the DXM experiences did i experience music appreciation DURING the trip, only after, during the next morning up until lunch. Also, i NEVER experienced psychedelic effects, which i hope for from the beginning, but who knows, maybe it will change with dosage ( low dosage=visuals/high dosage=disassociation?? )
-SaRz
The first time i did DXM i did 2.5mg/lbs ( sorry dont feel like converting to kg )
and all i got was a mild drunk feeling with alot of itchyness. Nothing positive about it. I wasnt expecting much from music appreciation because i dont get it from drugs ive done even though i love music and it is my life. Oh, it was a 4oz. bottle.
The second time i cranked up a bit to 5mg/lbs and i got the same thing, maybe alittle more drunkeness and more itch.They were gelcaps. But i was persistent...
The third time i might have overdid it, thinking i lacked a certain enzyme that metabolises dxm. I took 8.3mg/lbs making the dose roughly 1,100mg. I took it in liquid form, thinking that maybe the liquid would hit me harder than the gelcaps. Guess what...it hit me VERY hard. I felt like a homeless man on PCP, and i was probably acting like it too.It was most intense thing ive experienced and i managed not to freak out ( as far as i knew ). The dissaciative properties were very prominent - timewarp, alice in wonderland effect, felt like i was two people and carried out conversations with myself, and the itching was there too...but i next time i will take Diphenhydramine to combat the itchiness, i had forgotten about the fact that DXM releases histamines and Diphenhydramine blocks them. When went to sleep around 2 am, i thought i was gonna be permanently like that, as if i OD'd and was stuck in my mess. During random times of night through my sleep, which was almost non-existent, i would wake up to people laughing and talking as if they were in my room. There was no one there...i then assumed it was coming from the window, but it sounded like it damn near my ear. Throught out the whole thing i thought my eyes were blue, and even took a fairly clos-up picture and it STILL looks blue to me, which is wierd cuz ive never heard of DXM changing eye color. My eyes were very blood shot too...oh and my eyes are naturally green, incase you were wondering what it switched from. I cant do DXM tonight, or this weekend, cuz i have shit to do, but next week i will dose it more carefully, somewhere around 800-900mg total and see how that plays out.
Never during any of the DXM experiences did i experience music appreciation DURING the trip, only after, during the next morning up until lunch. Also, i NEVER experienced psychedelic effects, which i hope for from the beginning, but who knows, maybe it will change with dosage ( low dosage=visuals/high dosage=disassociation?? )
-SaRz
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For quite some time I used DXM with zoloft, prozac, and large quantities of St.Johns Wort daily, and never experienced any "serotonin syndrome". I'm sure its a quite dangerous possibility, but its not as common as its so often made out to be. On the other hand, while on SSRI's, the DXM was much more potent, and I used far less amounts. Since I'm naturally sensitive to DXM anyway, I have tripped on as little as 75mg.
no visuals at low doses, lights are brighter cuz ur pupils are dilated and you might get a case of nystagmus but that's it.
high doses are the only way to achieve visuals, 900mg or so and you'll be in a full blown 4th plateau trip, heavily dissociative. like out of your body experience dissociative.
high doses are the only way to achieve visuals, 900mg or so and you'll be in a full blown 4th plateau trip, heavily dissociative. like out of your body experience dissociative.
Hmmm....
I converted what i posted earlier
And it turns out that it equals 18mg/klg
and what it said on Erowid is the following..
Plateau - Dosage Range (mg/kg) - Usenet suggestions for regular users
First - 1.5-2.5 mg/kg - 2.7 mg/kg
Second - 2.5-7.5 mg/kg - 6.4 mg/kg
Third - 7.5-15 mg/kg - 9.4 mg/kg
Fourth - >15mg/kg - 18mg/kg
So judging by this, i hit the fourth plateu...but i just dont think thats right, that i hit it. Have any of you guys hit the fourth, and if so, what was like? Did you experience what i did? I just wanna know if that was the 4th plateu, or something less. Please dont judge by the ammount i took, because im not sensitive to DXM, judge on your experiences and compar them to mine, if you can.
Thanks!
*Im about to take 2 bottles 4oz. and see where that gets me.
-SaRz
I converted what i posted earlier
And it turns out that it equals 18mg/klg
and what it said on Erowid is the following..
Plateau - Dosage Range (mg/kg) - Usenet suggestions for regular users
First - 1.5-2.5 mg/kg - 2.7 mg/kg
Second - 2.5-7.5 mg/kg - 6.4 mg/kg
Third - 7.5-15 mg/kg - 9.4 mg/kg
Fourth - >15mg/kg - 18mg/kg
So judging by this, i hit the fourth plateu...but i just dont think thats right, that i hit it. Have any of you guys hit the fourth, and if so, what was like? Did you experience what i did? I just wanna know if that was the 4th plateu, or something less. Please dont judge by the ammount i took, because im not sensitive to DXM, judge on your experiences and compar them to mine, if you can.
Thanks!
*Im about to take 2 bottles 4oz. and see where that gets me.
-SaRz
oo, only 75mg u say... damn... i'm planning on getting on prozac and i was kinda bummed out that i couldn't take dxm on it. but from what i've been hearing serotonin syndrome isn't as common as it's made out to be and even when it does occur it's rarely fatal.
i've done lots of other shit that should've killed me but i'm still here...
i've done lots of other shit that should've killed me but i'm still here...
2 4oz bottles should get u pretty fucked up. i usually take around 450mg. (135lb.) for a nice 2nd plateau trip, that's a bottle and a half of robo gels (there are 20 doses in the gels and roughly 23 doses in the syrup).
if you weigh more than me 2 4oz. would be somewhere above 600mg but i've taken 2 bottles of robo gels (exactly 600mg) and just couldn't see or talk or walk straight. the people i was with thought i was more fucked than i was, it was just my damn mouth wouldn't work right.
still no visuals or leaving my body, definitely not 4th plateau, 3rd.
i was thinking of taking 3 or 4 bottles of robo gels (900-1200mg) as a final exploit before i get put on prozac because i don't think i've ever had a full blown 4th plateau trip.
this one guy i met told me about a time he drank 2 8 oz. bottles of syrup (1200 + some) and he was in outer space like flying around planets n shit.
that's a 4th plateau trip. straight leave your body shit.
that's what i wanna do.
1200mg sounds like it should do the trick for me, i'll bet if i took 900mg i still wouldn't get to where i want so fuckit, passin 900 up and goin straight to 1200.
that's a huge dose of dxm and unless you've been doing dxm every day for over a year like yours truly i wouldn't recommend it.
if you weigh more than me 2 4oz. would be somewhere above 600mg but i've taken 2 bottles of robo gels (exactly 600mg) and just couldn't see or talk or walk straight. the people i was with thought i was more fucked than i was, it was just my damn mouth wouldn't work right.
still no visuals or leaving my body, definitely not 4th plateau, 3rd.
i was thinking of taking 3 or 4 bottles of robo gels (900-1200mg) as a final exploit before i get put on prozac because i don't think i've ever had a full blown 4th plateau trip.
this one guy i met told me about a time he drank 2 8 oz. bottles of syrup (1200 + some) and he was in outer space like flying around planets n shit.
that's a 4th plateau trip. straight leave your body shit.
that's what i wanna do.
1200mg sounds like it should do the trick for me, i'll bet if i took 900mg i still wouldn't get to where i want so fuckit, passin 900 up and goin straight to 1200.
that's a huge dose of dxm and unless you've been doing dxm every day for over a year like yours truly i wouldn't recommend it.
Hmmm...this isnt good.
I downed two bottles about 2o minutes ago and almost immediatly i began to feel queazy, which worried me because i never do but when i do ill throw up for sure, even though i havent thrown up from drugs/acahol i know when its coming. I eating cheerios with minimal milk to combat the upset stomach, i think it might have something to do with the fact i didnt eat dinner last night, breakfast this morning, or anything at all for that matter since i had the munchies yesterday and went to sleep @ 5pm to wake up 4.
lol
if my english teacher saw that sentence, he would kill me. RUN-ON
cheerios is helping already
maybe i can salvage the night
I downed two bottles about 2o minutes ago and almost immediatly i began to feel queazy, which worried me because i never do but when i do ill throw up for sure, even though i havent thrown up from drugs/acahol i know when its coming. I eating cheerios with minimal milk to combat the upset stomach, i think it might have something to do with the fact i didnt eat dinner last night, breakfast this morning, or anything at all for that matter since i had the munchies yesterday and went to sleep @ 5pm to wake up 4.
lol
if my english teacher saw that sentence, he would kill me. RUN-ON
cheerios is helping already
maybe i can salvage the nightyea man, cheerios will help. most def.
it's always good to have some food in you when u dex, especially since you don't get hungry on it.
although when my aunt and her boyfriend did a bunch of meth for a while and there was no food in the house my roommate and i would just be like, fuckit, let's go get some cough medicine, at least we wont' be hungry then.
2 bottles of syrup's gonna have its way with you tho, if it wants out it will.
that's why the robo gels are the shizz.
they're specially made for dexing. they came out after the fad hit. we were drinking cough syrup way before the gels, then DXM was all over the news, then all the stores started carrying robo gels.
hilarious.
i've always thought that robitussin manufactured them specifically for people to trip balls off of. especially since i would repeatedly clean out walgreens of every bottle of robo gels and they'd always restock them. for over a year, probably around 2... good times, good times...
it's always good to have some food in you when u dex, especially since you don't get hungry on it.
although when my aunt and her boyfriend did a bunch of meth for a while and there was no food in the house my roommate and i would just be like, fuckit, let's go get some cough medicine, at least we wont' be hungry then.
2 bottles of syrup's gonna have its way with you tho, if it wants out it will.
that's why the robo gels are the shizz.
they're specially made for dexing. they came out after the fad hit. we were drinking cough syrup way before the gels, then DXM was all over the news, then all the stores started carrying robo gels.
hilarious.
i've always thought that robitussin manufactured them specifically for people to trip balls off of. especially since i would repeatedly clean out walgreens of every bottle of robo gels and they'd always restock them. for over a year, probably around 2... good times, good times...
hhaha, thats funny shit.
I just steal mine from the Luckys nearby, and they havent seemed to give a shit.
Im about to cook a little bit, cuz i havent eaten anything but cheerios...
Im cooking steak ( small ) with some tatter-tots
wish i had some weed, but all i have is a stem-collection jar and i dont feel like making tea
I just steal mine from the Luckys nearby, and they havent seemed to give a shit.
Im about to cook a little bit, cuz i havent eaten anything but cheerios...
Im cooking steak ( small ) with some tatter-tots
wish i had some weed, but all i have is a stem-collection jar and i dont feel like making tea
yea dude, weed's the shizz on dex. in fact if i take dxm without any weed i just get kinda manic, barely feel it at all, but hit some mary and pffffffffffff... gone...
damn i want some fuckin steak, no food here, some cough medicine would be delightful as well.
you can smoke stems... just lettin ya know... people are like stems wont' getcha high and i'm like ooooh yes they will. i've been to enough hotel parties. the next morning all the drugs are gone and you scrounge up ever stem and piece of weed lying around to get high before you check out.
good times
and yea, it really seems like they just don't care if you steal the robo gels. i seriously think that robitussin pays stores to keep em stocked or something cuz i know they don't make any money off of em.
damn i want some fuckin steak, no food here, some cough medicine would be delightful as well.
you can smoke stems... just lettin ya know... people are like stems wont' getcha high and i'm like ooooh yes they will. i've been to enough hotel parties. the next morning all the drugs are gone and you scrounge up ever stem and piece of weed lying around to get high before you check out.
good times
and yea, it really seems like they just don't care if you steal the robo gels. i seriously think that robitussin pays stores to keep em stocked or something cuz i know they don't make any money off of em.
Wow....im trippin pretty hard right now.
Music appreciation is very nice, i have my in-ear headphones plugged into my ear and it feels amazing. Im dancing to the techno.
My steak isnt even done yet. My face is a little numb which means the DXM has kicked in, not just the Diphenhydramine. It takes alot of deleting to wrte everything perfectly. I Feel alot different than i did any other experience with DXM. This is actually very pleasant. I have a good feeling for the night
Its only begging
I will edit this later and let you guys know what goes down!
Music appreciation is very nice, i have my in-ear headphones plugged into my ear and it feels amazing. Im dancing to the techno.
My steak isnt even done yet. My face is a little numb which means the DXM has kicked in, not just the Diphenhydramine. It takes alot of deleting to wrte everything perfectly. I Feel alot different than i did any other experience with DXM. This is actually very pleasant. I have a good feeling for the night
Its only begging
I will edit this later and let you guys know what goes down!
mulberryman
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The best way to make "tea" out of these is too use milk or alcohol, or both, and heat it to 120°F/50°C, to activate the THC, but not let it reach 140°F/60°C, else the THC breaks down. The result... far more potent than smoking it...
delta_9
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^You don't really need to heat the alcohol and honestly I never would. The thc is already going to be active, as it's alcohol and fat soluble.
It's also not "far more potent" or any more potent at all than smoking. The amount of weed or stems you use is indicative of how much thc you'll have in the final product, nothing will change that. You can concentrate it more by evaporating the alcohol off, thus lowering the alcohol to thc ratio, but the actual amount of thc will be constant.
One more thing, I wouldn't exactly call a thc infused alcoholic beverage "tea" at all, but you can if you like 8), but to me it's more of a "tincture".
It's also not "far more potent" or any more potent at all than smoking. The amount of weed or stems you use is indicative of how much thc you'll have in the final product, nothing will change that. You can concentrate it more by evaporating the alcohol off, thus lowering the alcohol to thc ratio, but the actual amount of thc will be constant.
One more thing, I wouldn't exactly call a thc infused alcoholic beverage "tea" at all, but you can if you like 8), but to me it's more of a "tincture".
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I've made marijuana tea successfully by heating milk in the microwave and putting in finely ground material, and keeping it heating to a not-too-high temperature for a little bit while you stir and simmer the bits. Then drink it all up including the ground-up bits, which will be unnoticeable.
Now that i think about, it makes more sense, at least for me, to use milk instead of making a tea. Its just that much simpler and quicker to do. I recently had some chocolate milk with weed from the marijuana clubs that a friend got, and it was great. I was really surprised how much it fucked me up, and it was rather unfortunate too, it was about an hour before i was to take an AP French exam @ school. I couldnt read the damn paper, much less write legibly. I failed the test, but told the teacher that my contacts had fallen off on the bike ride to class thus giving me a re-do, which i still managed to do crappy on ( i think somewhere around C-, not that anybody cares on the forum. ) Later when i talked to him, he said i was to dilute it with more choclate milk, and not drink all of it. It was probably a 16oz container of milk, which was packed with more weed than ive ingested before ( not smoked ). Was very good though, practiclly worth it. 2 more weeks and ill probably have enough stems to get a considerable buzz.
Edit: Got carried away and realized this was the DXM thread
I have a question that is on topic, though. It is well known that levels of DXM above 16mg/kg can be dangerous physiologically, and thus people are warned about it. What i would like to know, and hope someone can answer, is this : Is it dangerous because the active ingredient DXM or is it dangerous because of the excess in inactive ingredients?
Edit: Got carried away and realized this was the DXM thread
I have a question that is on topic, though. It is well known that levels of DXM above 16mg/kg can be dangerous physiologically, and thus people are warned about it. What i would like to know, and hope someone can answer, is this : Is it dangerous because the active ingredient DXM or is it dangerous because of the excess in inactive ingredients?
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Well, I wouldn't use pure alcohol or even a liquor percentage, more like just a little bit, say 1-5%, and milk or cream as well. Ethanol boils at 172°F/78°C, but can burn at lower temps, but not likely too in such dilution. Since you won't want to heat the mixture above 140°F/60°C anyway, its probably not an issue. Of course, you can make a tincture of cannabis much easier by simply dissolving your buds in a close to pure ethanol solution, such as everclear or even citrus flavour extracts available in the grocery store, but yeah you don't want to heat that at all.
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mulberryman said:
True though this may be, the purpose of Bluelight is harm reduction. I combined DXM and Ecstacy the first and only time I took X. Thankfully it was a first plateau dose combined with some really shitty ecstacy. The point is that I didn't get serotonin syndrome and die, but that doesn't make it a good idea, from a harm reduction point of view, to tell people to do it.
You still have to deal with issues like people who are poor CYP-2D6 metabolizers too.Not directing this post at mulberryman specifically, but more the general idea I've seen on the last page or so that, "Serotonin Syndrome is rare, so go ahead and do it."
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