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The Big and Dandy DPT Thread V1 (Archive 10-3-03 - 5-13-08)

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I can't wait until my time comes to try DPT. All that's holding me off is that I don't want it to just be like a lot of my experiences, where I wake up one Saturday morning and decide it might be nice to trip. =D

But I'm honestly more excited about it than any other pending experience. And afraid as well.
 
^ i imagine it being very scary.

I have smoked ~20-30mg of DPT freebase half an hour after insufflating 50mg.

After finishing the bowl i layed down right away because my body starting shaking real hard, almost convulsing. Once i layed down on the couch i felt as if my soul was violently ripped out of my body and thrown into the cosmos, dispersing amongst the stars, becoming nothing, everything, one.

It was beautiful, thinking about t right now makes me want to cry.

Sadly i have been to scared to revisit since that experience. One day when i feel its right il do it again.

The only other substances that have effected me so strongly have been LSD and 2c-e. And my first couple mushroom trips.
 
Perfect combo IMO. Amazing synergy
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yes that is defintely on my to do list.
I am first going to try K+DOC this weekend though.
Next week I will give the K+DPT a whirl.

But I'm honestly more excited about it than any other pending experience. And afraid as well.
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as orbital forest ,mentioned..i am excited for ou as well. Defintely a great ally to have and a real "eye opener"...or i should say mind opener.

I have tried alot of phens and trypts and DPT is really one of the few that blows me away everytime.
I remeber the first time i tried it (40mg IM)..i compared it to 7 grams of shroom+50mg of K.....very heavy tryptamine feeling and a slight dissasociative side to it.....with all the choas and harmony inbetween.
But DPT can be unpredictabe sometimes....even when using the same dose.
I was blown away more from 40mg than i was at 60mg. I guess the setting and where your mind is at the time has a significant role in the intensity.

DPT gives you the vision like you are looking thru a magnifying glass. everything is bigger and you can see detail in everything. PLus ALOT of auditory distortions.

It was beautiful, thinking about t right now makes me want to cry
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i agree. i felt the same way on my last trip. It felt like a very sacred and holy momnet.....something no other chemical has yet to touch. There is a sacredness to it ....very humbling
 
thugg said:
Does gauge size matter too much with DPT? I was just thinking that 100mg/mL might be pretty viscous to get through a 29 gauge needle?

I have some insulin syringes right now that a friend gave me in case they might work. But the needle isn't long enough (looks to be shorter than 1/2 inch?), and the gauge is REALLY small. I guess the DPT solution could get through the hole fine, so that kind of answers my question (I am just guessing though).
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So I take it that pretty much any gauge will work? As long as the needle is long enough to enter the muscle.
 
I always use 1/2 inch, 27, 28, or 29 gauge needle. I'm fairly slender, so I don't have much body-fat to shoot through. That size might not be long enough if you are rather stout. But works great for me.

PS....DPT is a bitch to dissolve in water I'd do 50mg/ml. I've had 100mg/ml solutions recrystalize in the sterile vials I kept it in for long-term storage. It only went back into solution by heating the entire thing. Pain in the ass...so I'd recommend you make your solution with less.
 
illusion25 said:
But DPT can be unpredictabe sometimes....even when using the same dose.
I was blown away more from 40mg than i was at 60mg. I guess the setting and where your mind is at the time has a significant role in the intensity.
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I have been completely destroyed on 25mg IM and been comfortable for damn hike on 50mg IM. Many friends have experienced the same phenomenon at the same doses from the same batches. DPT's "neutral" character does make in more susceptible to set and setting in my opinion, but there is definitely some kind of as of yet unknown physiological affect occurring. It's actually kind of irksome because if I reacted sensitively to a 50mg IM dose I'd be in for a ride I didn't intend, but 50mg all at one go is how I've had all my best experiences with DPT alone...
 
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It also has something sensual about it that DMT does not have (purple, velvet chocolate are three words I keep being drawn back to in describing it!).
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Yes, it is the most tactile and synaesthetic psychedelic of my collected experiences. There is an overwhelming sense of a yielding aspect, as well as an almost immaterial limpidness in its character. Every stride sails by spider’s silk. Innocence, majesty, and mercy become the highest qualities.

Its metaphysical myth-making faculties are second only to 2C-E in their prolificness. Through the portal of this quality I have seen two men, small, wizened and wise, pursuing one another eternally on bicycle-like contraptions across the exposed root system of titanic Spirit Lifting Pylon Trees. Their infinitely contented laughter soaks into the vault of leaves, and raises the branches and their spectral burden endlessly toward the sun through the mere sound of its levity. (It is not just a vision, but a whole surrounding narrative, complete with nascent taxonomies, that it imports.) In short, DPT is like a fairytale for happily schizophrenic children.
 
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I always use 1/2 inch, 27, 28, or 29 gauge needle. I'm fairly slender, so I don't have much body-fat to shoot through. That size might not be long enough if you are rather stout. But works great for me.

PS....DPT is a bitch to dissolve in water I'd do 50mg/ml. I've had 100mg/ml solutions recrystalize in the sterile vials I kept it in for long-term storage. It only went back into solution by heating the entire thing. Pain in the ass...so I'd recommend you make your solution with less.
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Oh I know, I wasn't planning on going for 100mg/ml, I just saw it mentioned above and was using that as a max for example. 50mg/ml max seems like the best amount, and using dual injection sites if necessary.

But thanks for the tips on gauge. I'm a fairly big guy so I know I'll need at least an inch long needle. But if you can pass a 50mg/ml solution of DPT/h2o (or saline) through 27-29 gauge that's all I needed to know.
 
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In short, DPT is like a fairytale for happily schizophrenic children.
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Holy shit this is an awesome statement! 8o

question: is DPT smoked more potent than DPT IMed? So, if I smoked 31mg (and was definitely blown away for awhile), but thought in retrospect I could handle more, what should be my IM dosage if I want an extremely powerful trip? I was thinking 45mg.
 
^ It's a much more controlled onset and is (IMO at least) fairly benign at around the 25mg. This, for me, makes it the complete opposite to 5-methoxy DMT; that at 5mg IM ways one of the most unpleasant experiences I've had with psychedelics - thank fuck it was short lived
 
really, have you smoked DPT? Its VERY similar to 5-MeO-DMT yet is much more visual. It really takes the best points of DMT and 5-MeO-DMT and drops the negatives. Very very nice. I'm hoping IM DPT is still as visual and overwhelming.

Lately I have been more and more excited about complete and total overwhelming tryptamine experiences. I want to get as blasted out of this universe as possible, it feels very natural.
 
I have not smoked DPT. But I have smoked 5 meo dmt and DMT.
And IM DPT has been more powerful than smoking 5meodmt and dmt in my expierence.
It is more visual and more overwhelming (but not in a bad way).

I can only imagine what IM dpt/k would be like.

but samadhi_smiles- i suggest you try and IM dose. 40-45mg is a good starting dose to blow you away. It lasts about 1.5-2.5 hours for me...and the peak is about 30 min.
gook luck and please report back if you try this ! :)
 
I am going to experiment with low doses of DPT freebase. I reckon it won't be quite what DMT is. I think 5-8mg of DMT is definitely miracle-like.

This afternoon I smoked 8mg of DMT and walked into the trees next to my parent's home and sat down as a light rain dripped down and everything seemed to be vibrating at just the right frequency and the water gathered on the leaves sparkled so much. It was so WET.

I haven't found a dose of DMT that doesn't have a profoundly positive affect on me. Even 2-4mg will produce open eye distortions (brightening/saturation of colors) and a tingling headspace. 8mg is definitely tripping, with objects vibrating. 15mg and patterns are forming in open eye field. 25mg and I am on my back immersed in visuals. 35mg and I meet the Golden Woman.
 
Just comming down off of a 100mg insufflated

wow, this is quite an interesting chemical, and one of the most powerful trips I've ever had. I wish I had more of this chem to experiment with, but after the first 50mg didn't have me where I wanted after 30 mins I redosed with my remaining. WOW.
 
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