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The Big and Dandy DMT thread - Next Phase

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IME straight to base teks do have higher yeilds. But that might be because i fucked up a couple a/b extracts.

The tek that i found works best is nomans "dmt for the masses" tek (now on erowid and was also in the entheogen review.)
Its very similar to youkais but more detailed.
 
I can't wait to to try the juicer extraction method. At first I was concerned that dried leaves would have no liquid to extract, but then I thought that rehydrating the leaves and letting them sit for a bit before hand could overcome that problem.

DMT containing grass is ubiquitous, imagine if it was as simple as picking the grass and running it through a juicer.

I'm going to be in a rural area this weekend, I'll see if I can find some DMT containing phalaris grass species.

I find it ironic that Reed canary grass (Phalaris arundinacea) is considered an "Invasive Alien Plant" =D

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I always thought mars tek worked pretty damn good.

divine moment of truth is a good name for the drug. I wonder what chap came up with the name. Whether or not you are ready for it, it will reveal the truth. You have to be ready for it though, ready to take it in and comprehend it or it will pass in one ear and out six others?????? There really isnt a way to brace yourself thats why I like it. It lays everything out in front of you and forces you to be its bitch in a sense. Not so much a bad thing though I will be DMT's bitch any day. For me, the divine moment of truth just reinforces the fact that we really know nothing. DMT is just so deep. The whole experience just feels like it was my destiny.

Anyone ever smoke the jungle dmt variety? That stuff seems a little scary but I want to blast off with it at least once.

Sometimes out of the blue I get the taste of DMT in the back of my throat. It happens for a few months after I smoke DMT and I dont do it often. Anyone ever had that happen?
 
yeuramine? (I think thats what it's called), yeah, once, but I use heat now in my extractionand apparently any ehat will destory it. Its whatmakes MHRB active roaly on its own.
 
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Sometimes out of the blue I get the taste of DMT in the back of my throat. It happens for a few months after I smoke DMT and I dont do it often. Anyone ever had that happen?
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Yep.

Reguarding phalaris, the info I've gleaned from Trouts notes and online seems to indicate that phalaris has such variability in potency and alkaloid profile that using wild phalaris is quite a crapshoot. Some strains with better known characteristics are available that will produce better results.

Also, if juicing, it's best not to use the juice as part of an anahuasca brew as it may contain some nastys that are destroyed by vaporizing. In an ER interview, Johnny Appleseed mentioned that quick ,sub 15 minute boilings of fresh phalaris, extract the goods and leave behind the bads.
 
^I believe most Phalaris spp. contain gramine, which is a tryptamine precursor, but allegedly toxic....though as you say vaping may destroy it. I'd go for something cleaner then Phalarisspp.

And yeah, I get that DMT taste in mouth; not surprising if it s in the brain.
 
Getting the DMT taste or smelling it at random times is only an indication that you've experienced a unique smell/taste in DMT that you used to just call "gross" or whatever. Now you have something to tie it to so you call it the DMT smell/taste. I haven't tasted it long after but I do smell it.

It's like if you're a pot head you'll probably think it smells like pot at random times when it's just mold or a skunk or whatever.
 
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divine moment of truth is a good name for the drug. I wonder what chap came up with the name.
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do you mean to tell me the term existed before shpongle used it?
 
This weekend i plan to blast off on DMT while on a longer lasting psychedelic at a semi-large gathering of hippies and like-minded folks.
For those of you who are experienced in this sort of thing (s_s, youkai etc) what would you recomend i use as the longer lasting psychedelic?
A tryptamine, a PEA, LSD?
And which psychedelic do u find synergises best?
I have access to various RC trypts and phens aswell as mushrooms, LSD and a plethora of other drugs.

On a different note a couple weeks ago i tried inhaling nitrous while un sub breakthrough dose of DMT. The experience was nothing to cry home about. The DMT prevented me from going too far with the nitrous, it somehow kept me grounded. And the nitrous didnt alter the DMT trip at all as far as im concerned.
Nitrous with other psychs is amazing though.

Also small hits of DMT (~5mg) taken with the marijuana substitute called "the spice" (how appropriate), proved to be very euphoric.

oh man, where has this wonderful drug been all my life?

answer: its been in me this whole time.
 
I've personally tried DMT (that I can think of) with mushrooms, marijuana, 4-HO-DMT, 2CT7, DPT, and 2CB-

of those combos, I most enjoyed the 4-HO-DMT and 2CT7 combos-

Its really nice to blast off before a long lasting psych - it sets the tone of the trip - but nothing compares to taking two or three tokes while peaking on a tryptamine! :)

happy times Delsyd :)
 
delsyd, I cant amke it to that festie, would haev loved to blast off with you.

BUT my favorite combo is smoking DMT while on LSD/MDMA. its so fucking FANTASTIC ORGASMIC!!!! also smoking it on 2c-b/mdma is a great combo and doesnt last as long for the longer acting experience.

Or just smoke DMT while on MDMA, it synergises so well it cant even be descried properly, PURE UNADULTERATED BLISS, true empathy and astounding euphoria. Also it adds to the visuals in a non protruding way!

I'll be doing a LSD/MDMA-DMT combo this weekend at a show. Am going to absolutely love it!!! bene taking meletonen (I spelt taht wrong) every night for teh apst week and have been taking 5htp as well. Oh baby Ima roll me some face to beautiful energy pulsing out my body on the LSD and then visit the cosmos on DMT. YAY!!!!!!!!


oh, and the day after, if you took to much MDMA and am feeling kinda shitty, take an oiate and try DMT while on that, a psychedelic rainbow nod is osmething to experience!!! but the experience is much more grounded and earthy.
 
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Youkai , MDMA again, be after, wit that stuff! move than once a month can be too much!
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I know, but Im having fun! plus I know when its time to quite, Iv done it ebfor and I'll do it again. the mind and body will tell me when its too much.

now, lets all rock into the future with some MDMA and DMT blasts ALL NIGHT LONG!


MDMA isnt taht vial whe use in moderate dosages, just have self control on not double dosing all night to stay mashed/muant faced. just enough to get that music euphoria and empathy towards others and maybe a booster of half that later on, trhrow in a low dose of LSD or 2c-b and a few blast of DMT and you are golden, I gaurentee you, you will like the synergy, its unbelievable. Im doing it this weekend, did it last weekend and the one befor. prob do it the weekend after next. Its so awesome!!!! Its great at shows!!!!
 
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I know, but Im having fun! plus I know when its time to quite, Iv done it ebfor and I'll do it again. the mind and body will tell me when its too much.

now, lets all rock into the future with some MDMA and DMT blasts ALL NIGHT LONG!


MDMA isnt taht vial whe use in moderate dosages, just have self control on not double dosing all night to stay mashed/muant faced. just enough to get that music euphoria and empathy towards others and maybe a booster of half that later on, trhrow in a low dose of LSD or 2c-b and a few blast of DMT and you are golden, I gaurentee you, you will like the synergy, its unbelievable. Im doing it this weekend, did it last weekend and the one befor. prob do it the weekend after next. Its so awesome!!!! Its great at shows!!!!
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Don't get me wrong. ive aoristic lots of E and my fair share of trolling and it is awesome. Also Nitrous and acid is a blast off on its own! I never liked to redose all night and all day, we Just dosed , boosted and rode it out. Does anyone think there is similarity to the DMT world and LSD /Nitrous world? Also, sorry for my crappy misspelling lately , lm still getting used to the tablet I just got. It cant read my handwriting well.
 
Also, I cant understand what the acidless tek is about. making a solution of the powder, then adding base does anything. adding Base to a solution where the DMT is freebase seems pointless. seems like if you tried to defat in nonpolar solvent the DMT FB will be washed away. I think converting to acid is an important step and you are loosing yield by doing this.
 
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I find LSD/Nitrous more similar to salvia, in that the dissociativeeffects are pronounced moreso. Whats ya new tablet?
 
Youkai said:
I know, but Im having fun! plus I know when its time to quite, Iv done it ebfor and I'll do it again. the mind and body will tell me when its too much.

now, lets all rock into the future with some MDMA and DMT blasts ALL NIGHT LONG!


MDMA isnt taht vial whe use in moderate dosages, just have self control on not double dosing all night to stay mashed/muant faced. just enough to get that music euphoria and empathy towards others and maybe a booster of half that later on, trhrow in a low dose of LSD or 2c-b and a few blast of DMT and you are golden, I gaurentee you, you will like the synergy, its unbelievable. Im doing it this weekend, did it last weekend and the one befor. prob do it the weekend after next. Its so awesome!!!! Its great at shows!!!!
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The DMT experience is complete enough for me to not want to add a chemical like MDMA (which is very bad at least for my brain's balance)-

Our brains are resilient in a lot of ways, we will take a lot of physical abuse, but I think regular use of MDMA is one of the worst things I did to myself (much worse than regular use of oxycontin, which was bad enough)-

The clincher for me was that I realized I was not learning anything from my MDMA experiences that I did not know - I was just going back over the same message over and over again -

take care youkai,
S_S
 
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