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The Big and Dandy DMT thread - Next Phase

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Malmoesoldier said:
And is there any big difference in the high you get from white crystal DMT and brown/yellow DMT?. I heard that the reason it becomes yellow is because it exposed in air for several hours. So the difference cant be that big can it?

Thanks if any one can help!
Yes, Yellow DMT, regaurdless of what tint has fats and oils from the plant material in it, it is not clean and has non psychoactive gooy/oily crude in it. White/clear DMT will turn pink when left out, Iv seen it and porpously have ?oxidized? it to pink because it looks cool (and is actualy alil easier to work with, alil mroe waxy). IMO the high is DEFFINATELY different, not by a huge margin but I realy cant "get it" with yellow DMT, it seems to take to long to vaporise (prob a matter of a few seconds differences) but I think oils in it play a roll in this. The white DMt seems to deliver a MUCH better blast and flash with much more visuals. Its also alot easier to dose with white DMT, even very light white/yellow DMT seems to require at least 5mg more to get what is achived with 5mg less of white DMT.

Anyone can clean up there DMT quite easily, may it be your extraction or a gram you bought from someone. Simply put the rgam in a small glass container and add some room temp naphtha to it, slosh it around untill the crystals start to dissolve back into the solution ('it'll be cloudy/yellow) and the put it in a hot water bath and slosh it alil more, be careful to wipe off all condenstaion a water in it will be a bitch to work with.

now put it in an air tight glass container adn throw it in the fridge, within 6 hours you'll have a bunch of crystals precipitated out of the solvant and on the edges and bottom of the glass. Scrape the edges and collect the white crystals, leave the discolored ones on the bottom. Do another hot water abth and repeat the pocess over adn over and untill you ahve a bunch of white crystals, then repeat teh process on those.

There are also tricks in which you can catch the oils. they seem to drop first in a lump of yellow while in the fridge, you can "fish" it out and this will allow less repeats of the freeze precipts. Another way Iv bene working with is allow it to evap down all the way in warmer condition so crystals neevr form but you ahev a bunch of goo. cool it all down then throw some room temp naphtha in it, slosh it around and then freeze preipt on that. the oily goo in the evap bowl will still contain DMT and this process must be repeated numberous times, but its a way to get some good crystals that dont requir obsesive working to get clear DMT.

Oh yeah, with the first example on hwo to clean them in which you just collect the crystals from teh sides, evaping down while in that container between fridge trips can allow for faster droping of the crystals without ahving to do teh process so many times. And as Iv mentioned befor, V shaped conatiners work well in trapping the oils and allowing ALOT of sides for the white DMT to climb up.



some peopel may claim that there isnt a difference, I beg thsoe people to try to clean it up and see how much mroe of a trip it is. Just seems cleaner, more pure... because it is!
 
^ Spot on Youkai. This yellow, or otherwise discolored DMT is usually the result of a poorly executed extraction. Defatting should, IMHO, be considered an essential part of the procedure. Too many teks out there make this sound optional.

Also, I agree that it is very worthwhile to perform your own recrystalization(s) if you find yourself in posession of impure DMT. Like Youkai said, the difference between clean, pure crystals and yellow goo is substantial. Purified N,N-DMT is a smooth and pleasant vapor. Smoking plant fats and residual solvents and/or basifying agents is much less so...

Oh, and regarding the ultimate setting: laying on one's back on a summer night on a secluded beach, watching the Perseid (sp?) meteor shower, with enhancement provided by repeated hits of DMT can be quite breathtaking.
 
HAHAHAHA omg just blasted off again after i railed 12 mg 2C-B couple hours ago.... They were prankish again, it was somehow visually indefinable but like in a dream i 'knew' and felt everything that went on... Some creature running around in a very interesting scene, getting it's nuts ripped off which then somehow unfolded itself as a new cartoonesque surrounding. I wouldn't call it really colorful this time, but it was hectic. I was a little anxious before I started, meditated on my intent and my thankfulness for this sacrament. I remembered that my parents love me, I kiss my dad's picture. I know there are improvements to be made but I hold my friends and family dear as I know they do me. In the trip I discovered how much I could influence what I was experiencing, making different connections and associations would give me unfolding sensations. And all the while a lot of shenanigans were built and extracted, a grotesque metamorphosis came to me upon processing the links that were laid. I learned a lot from externalizations, like entities being a misinterpreted conception from within ourself. I could feel what was going on was pure very much like LSD, but my creativity and association was casting it into a warped and crazy image. It may have been that I was not efficient with my medium dose, perhaps a breaktrough with a 'machine' and self-made extract that I have yet to make will try to impress another view. One of time-travelling and actually being able to witness events beyond the domain of time. But why would a higher dose be any different? I presume the experience only grows exceedingly convincing but in the end it's probably still some message from deep within ourselves that is trying to come across. =D
 
Graham Hancock is on Coast to Coast right now talking about DMT and ayahausca...

In my opinion he's become one of the most eloquent speakers on the subject.

You can listen online if you don't get it locally.

http://www.640toronto.com/
 
I officialy apologise for not believing in entities. I saw them, they relayed messages, they explained life in a non word language. Basicly I saw it all!

just took alil MDMA to get me ready to smoke such a high dose. Iv been smoking DMT so much I didnt even noticed how high of a otllarance I ahve to its real effects, Iv been searching for it but just cant quite get there. Well I was able to again and wodner how long I have been in this false haze of astonishment.
 
Youkai said:
I officialy apologise for not believing in entities. I saw them, they relayed messages, they explained life in a non word language. Basicly I saw it all!

just took alil MDMA to get me ready to smoke such a high dose. Iv been smoking DMT so much I didnt even noticed how high of a otllarance I ahve to its real effects, Iv been searching for it but just cant quite get there. Well I was able to again and wodner how long I have been in this false haze of astonishment.
there is a trip report on this one. doesnt realy explain it fullybut enough to get the idea. I mean it was terrence mckenna style trip!!! Ivs een them befor but forgot, so use to geometric patterns of effects, not that beyond that into the rhelm of messangers!!!

I was crying as I came out , it was so damn beautiful!!!
 
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the other chic wasn't as amusing to watch, but was still impressed. Then the next day, she declares she's quitting heroin after a habit of nearly one year. I could tell she was more serious than she'd ever been, so I loaned her $20 for a suboxone hookup she'd just found. She was about to rob her drunkard grandfather's wallet for the money if I didn't.

it's so cool to have some semblance of confidence you're actually doing some tangible good in the world. I have the problem of wanting to help every single person, often times knowing the solutions quite plainly, but being well aware many people either must learn for themselves, or are beyond help. Making use of my talents once in a while is awfully fucking refreshing with the sorry state I fear the human species is in.

wow. DMT is amazing, it really clears things up in your mind, reminds you of what is important, what a great story, thanks for sharing. <3
 
yeeeeeah.....sadly enough, this girl is back on dope, after a clean streak of three or four days. And I feel partially responsible, because I offhandedly gave her the idea to make a fake deposit at her bank's ATM, and withdraw the $60 advance they loan you until your shit clears. She would've been broke otherwise. I saw the twinkle in her eye right when I said it, and I knew I should've never been in that conversation. But I guess that's the way the cookie crumbles. Life is so harsh sometimes.
 
Is there any food you should avoid before smoking DMT? or is it only when you take ayahuasca you should do that?
 
The diet restrictions are to due to the MAOI effect of ayahuasca. There aren't any diet restrictions for DMT that I know of, but it has been known to cause vomiting (being more common with 5-MeO-DMT) which could pose a danger.

Its probably best to smoke DMT on a semi-empty stomach or at least not after a heavy meal. Think of it a bit like swimming. Also if you smoke after a meal, a lot of energy and blood will be tied up in the digestion process when it could probably be better used in your brain. 8o
 
::sigh::

DMT is amazing. 2C-T-7 is pretty fuckin amazing, too.

good morning, bluelight. It's been a loooooooong night.

:D
 
A good one though, I take it!

I have a feeling that next time I attempt DMT, I will break through. I got really close last time but I couldn't breathe properly. I hope I get through next time, as I will be out of DMT after another full dose.

<3 <3 <3
 
yes, a good one, but an exhausting one.

I think it's sleep time for me.
 
Xork-- I noticed you mentioned you have problems breathing after smoking. Is that normal for you?
I have asthma, and I'm thinking I have some extra problems on top of the normal user of DMT. It's really fucking hard to breathe after a session, and that fact that usually my lips feel like they're burned doesn't help with the whole 'I love DMT and want to do it again and again!' thing.
Any idea how to solve either, if at all?
 
No, I smoke marijuana daily and that gives me no problems whatsoever. I have no problems with breathing at all normally, ever. Definitely no asthma. It's like I can feel the DMT crystallizing in my lungs and windpipe, and afterwards it's a residue that makes it feel strained to breathe. During my last DMT trip, every inhale made a whistling sound.

Also, I've found that after smoking DMT, for 2-3 days after I am producing a lot of mucous.
 
Xorkoth said:
No, I smoke marijuana daily and that gives me no problems whatsoever. I have no problems with breathing at all normally, ever. Definitely no asthma. It's like I can feel the DMT crystallizing in my lungs and windpipe, and afterwards it's a residue that makes it feel strained to breathe. During my last DMT trip, every inhale made a whistling sound.

Also, I've found that after smoking DMT, for 2-3 days after I am producing a lot of mucous.

I have asthma, it gets agitated by many things, DMT is one of them. I get that tightening feeling in my chest and windpipe as well. Once thru the entire trip (almost a break thru, prob would have been if i could have breathed properly) I couldn't breath, it kept me very grounded and i feel i missed out on a wonderful DMT trip b/c of the breathing. Now i keep my inhaler on hand when smoking DMT so that if i need to i can take a puff and fix it and enjoy the trip.
 
Heirarchy said:
Xork-- I noticed you mentioned you have problems breathing after smoking. Is that normal for you?
I have asthma, and I'm thinking I have some extra problems on top of the normal user of DMT. It's really fucking hard to breathe after a session, and that fact that usually my lips feel like they're burned doesn't help with the whole 'I love DMT and want to do it again and again!' thing.
Any idea how to solve either, if at all?

Its prob not the cleanest DMTthen. White/clear DMT doesnt burn tingle the lips (and actualy improper smoking can lead to this as well)

I wish we could all meet and I could blast everyone who wishes off properly with pure product, It truely is something to experience!

Oh, and teh machine IS where its @, that lil fucker can deliver hits multiple times larger then the retired dry bubbler could ever dream of!


edit: the other night (I believe it was the LSD/MDMA night) I got REALY REALY REALY sick from one of the DMT blasts, I was using the machine and didnt bother cleaning/using new steal wool and I took a 70mg dose after the 140, and NOTHING!, so I desided maybe just throw some n2o on there, befor I could take the n2o one of the people in my group fliped the steal wool around and gave the machine back to me, I hit it and instantly got all 70+ (including the oil that recrystalized on the sides) and began dry heaving very heavily, two of teh peopl grabed trash cans for me and I hacked up a bunch of black crystals in even more white saliva. Funny thing was in that whole process I forgot I smoked DMT (knew I was smoking it that night in excess but not just took a blast) and whoa was I supriced when I went to the window and it started shape shifting on me, had to be reminded what the hell just happended, it wa like I fished out on DMT lol. If Iw ould have ate anything that day besides 5htp, and multiviatams it would have been alot worse.
 
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Youkai said:
Its prob not the cleanest DMTthen. White/clear DMT doesnt burn tingle the lips (and actualy improper smoking can lead to this as well)

I wish we could all meet and I could blast everyone who wishes off properly with pure product, It truely is something to experience!

Oh, and teh machine IS where its @, that lil fucker can deliver hits multiple times larger then the retired dry bubbler could ever dream of!


^this guy knows what hes talking about
 
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