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The Big and Dandy Basic Mescaline/Cactus Questions Thread (Archive 3-19-07 - 4-12-08)

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Quick question about preparing the cactus..

I don't have a blender so i am going to use a food processor to blend up the cactus with the water, is it possible to blend it too much? I did a little test blend and in a few seconds it turned into a very thick foam like slime, i noticed there was a lot of air in it. Is this normal? thanks!
 
^^^completely normal. if you are making tea, right after you blend and add water, you get a thick concentration of snot on top, and as you continue to cook it (at a low temp) the snot will eventually disappear. but you've probably already figured that out
 
Yup lol

Cooked it up for about 6 hours and reduced it down to almost nothing. It was AMAZING, tasted horrible but was well worth it
 
I've got peruvian cactus chips.

Could i boil these down then save the goop in a bottle or something. Will it keep well?
 
frasierdog said:
I've got peruvian cactus chips.

Could i boil these down then save the goop in a bottle or something. Will it keep well?
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I think you could, except that the slime would not keep long. Unless maybe you froze it. I'll redirect this to the B&D basic mescaline cactus questions thread.
 
The whole point of the dried chips, I believe, is to preserve it....you can make the goop, but I'd do it when I actually planned to ingest it.
 
FYI about the dried chips - you can grind them carefully in a coffee grinder (short bursts so as not to produce too much heat), and then consume that dry, or in liquid, or in gel caps (lots of them, but you don't have to taste it). Just don't grind it until soon before you plan to consume it.
 
Simple San Pedro questions

If I had a San Pedro cactus, what would be the best method of preparing it? How much cactus is a good amount? I know nothing :\
 
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mescaline/mescaline.shtml

Peyote
* Lophophora williamsii - 300 mg / 27 g dried material

Peruvian Torch
* Trichocerus peruvianus - 300 mg / 15 to 100 grams dried material (.3% - 2.0% )

San Pedro
* Trichocerus pachanoi - 300 mg / 15 to 100 grams grams dried material (.3% - 2.0% )

Oral Mescaline HCl Dosages
Threshold 100 mg
Light 100 - 200 mg
Common 200 - 300 mg
Strong 300 - 500 mg
Heavy 500 - 700 mg

All taken from erowid.

Theres a bunch of different mescaline extractions. just search the forums.


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Hey Ness, I merged your thread in here :)

San Pedro
* Trichocerus pachanoi - 300 mg / 15 to 100 grams grams dried material (.3% - 2.0% )
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As you see, it is EXTREMEMLY variable, but it can be averaged out. A basic ratio is 100mg alkaloid/mescaline per 100g dried cactus- but with all rules-of-thumb, it should be taken as such.

Anyway, emthods of preparation are lurking throughout this thread. Ultimately, the best and safest method would be a complete extraction whereby you ended up with a relaitvely pure stable mesaline product- then you can accurately gauge your dose.

My prep method is simply drying the innermost green squishy gelly flesh (yes, that IS the technical term for it ;)), grinding and encapsulating. And if ylur a vegetarian, you can get VEGECAPS! However, this leads to bad bad bad nausea, though not as bad as with gunky preps. I'd love to fully work with mescaline more but I find the cactus so unpalataable that I can't until its pure-ish. My few recent experiences ranging from threshold to 'common' have been very pleasant bar one.

Toast don't tell people where to get cactus, even if its somehwere as obvious as that. Cheers.
 
I'm kinda prone to nausea. I can not throw up almost indefinitely if the nausea is constant, but it is very unpleasant. I despise being nauseous. I'd prefer to just puke and be done with it that try to ride out the nausea. Does puking kill the nausea and if so, how long would I need to wait before puking to not waste the precious cactus.
 
Marijuana and anti nausea medicine will help greatly.
Sorry about posting sources. Ive done that twice already. Edited othher post as well. Wont happen again.
 
In the words of me!:

mescaline is the finest psychoactive substance swim knows of... all the power of LSD but none of the freak out of shrooms... beautiful multicolored visuals surpassing either psilocin or LSD... yet it is characterised by an extreme feeling of peace and well being and connectedness to Everything That Is... swim has never heard of anyone ever having a bad trip on the stuff... never, ever, ever... it is very, very kind...
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I couldn't agree more, an amazing wise & gentle plant teacher. The cleaner the mescaline in dreams (white to off white, very light tan) the better imho.
 
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No probs Toast, thanking you :) I have attempted the techniques whereby one tries to fully go into the bitterness of the flavour and attempt to be so immersed that one seems to forget value judgments like good tast and bad- it can work for a while, I mean cactus is one of the most bitter and strange tasting things I've ever ingested, but I've weirdly found myself chewing dried chips, slowly over several hours- never enough to fly away, but eneough to arouse the sense.

You would want to be careful what anti-nauase meds you use with mescaline, some are dopamine agonsists. I think the vomiting from unpurified San Pedro for example is actually a neccesary way for your body to remove what it needs to from the cactus. Thats why I can't wait to obtain some crystal!!
 
Whats the best method of extraction for san pedro besides an acid/base extraction?
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Is there any advantage to soaking the dried skin in high proof alcohol vs just making tea and evaporating? I know first hand the evaporated tea turns into black goo that is very hard to work with. Does anyone know if using high proof alcohol and evaporating would work any better?

I've found tea is tolerable, but it's hard to dose high enough without puking.

The skin put into gel caps worked pretty good. But i ate those while on lsd=D so i don't think i would have noticed any nausea.

I'm just curious if anyone out there has found anything effective besides an A/B? I'd love to do an a/b but it's just not possible right now.
 
Can anyone identify this cactus? It grows profusely in my backyard (SoCal, near LA), and I was wondering what type it is. I'm hoping it's San Pedro or Peruvian Torch, etc ;)

http://img401.imageshack.us/my.php?image=74379654ay0.jpg
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http://img401.imageshack.us/my.php?image=13607802sf4.jpg
http://img401.imageshack.us/my.php?image=71712592ll5.jpg
http://img401.imageshack.us/my.php?image=62602177sm0.jpg

I'd much appreciate it if someone knows and can tell me.
 
^^^i only looked at a couple pics but they didn't look like san pedro to me..or peruvian. The first pic, def not. looking at the later ones, one looked like it could be san pedro, but only if it hadn't gotten any water in a lonnnnnnnnnng time. I doubt it, but i'm no expert.

but i know neither look like my san pedro. or the other san pedro's i've had.
 
dankstersauce said:
one looked like it could be san pedro, but only if it hadn't gotten any water in a lonnnnnnnnnng time.
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Well, we never water this thing, and considering we've gotten maybe, oh, three rainfalls worth mentioning in the last year, it's safe to say it hasn't had water in a long time.
I asked on a botanical garden/plant research board, and someone thought it was probably Peruvian Torch.

Thanks for the opinion :)
 
I don't know much about cactii but those picts look a little bit like San Pedro- but I don't think they are, the ribs seem to go much depper then any san pedro I've seen.
 
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