The Big and Dandy Basic Mescaline/Cactus Questions Thread (Archive 3-19-07 - 4-12-08)

[akThrash]

I've heard from a friend who grew up in mexico that if you cut the peyote at the base rather than ripping it out by the roots then you can come back every 6-9 months and have a mature cacti for consumption. Ha this fucker grew up with salvia and peyote in his backyard and never thought anything of it.

 

[Ptah]

I'd really love to see this one become more mainstream-ish, as I've always felt sorry about not buying the lot (instead of a two-person dose) when I had access to it.

 

[swilow]

Mescaline is widely available, just locked inside spikey cactii...

edit- merged mescaline combo question with B&D thread. This is something I'd be curious about also- anyone with experience using either DMT, salvia, or 5-meo-DMT with mescaline; or even a mild dose of mushrooms?

 

[Ptah]

Never managed to become friendly with the cacti, but l o v e d the pure crystals.
I doubt we'll get useful results from this query, as mescaline experiences (unless you count the single capsule or blotter experiences ) are pretty rare as it is, and combo experiences no doubt even more so.

 

[Newmoonrecord]

yes i'm talking about the cactus extraction type stuff, i've found to be easy to do and very worthwhile. Thanks for the recommendation about the opiates - they do the same thing for me - i suspect they would probably kill the emotional high of the trip.

Just for the record - my experience with low dose speed and mescaline was that the energy and motivation of the M synergized well with the speed, the visuals were a bit more noticeable, the "dreaminess" was reduced, the trip became rather analytical. Overall i liked it, and when the speed wore off the dreamy/otherworldlyness came on really hard!

 

[trip.more]

oxycodone on the come down of mescaline is always great for me, one of my favorite combinations.Actually coming of 400mg of mescaline HCL right now and snorted 60mg oxycodone the nodds are coming :D

 

[thoughtsUnThought]

i've had extremely profound and healing experiences eating mushrooms with mescaline.

i don't mind eating the cactus powder, and the cactus has been my ally for a couple of years, especially the last year. i've partaken around 50 to 60 times for guidance and learning reasons. i've only eaten mushrooms on mescaline 2 to 3 times.

 

[Dragynfyr]

How about MDMA and mescaline, any recommendations?

 

[swilow]

I smoked some dried San Pedro tonight- I honestly can;t say it did much. However, shrooms are involved- aye sholdnt be any x-tolerance tween the pEA snd trytpamine anyhow...

And the beat goees OM

 

[DexterMeth]

It's not much like LSD at all. it shares some similarities to the 2C-X class of drugs as they are chemically similar, but it is also quite different from them. Mescaline is a little hard to explain. It's extremel;y warm and earthy and natural-feeling. It's also quite spiritual, but not in the same analytical way as LSD. it seems to focus on beauty and light and pastel colors. Visuals don't really develop much until higher doses, which I have yet to experience. But people mostly report the visuals as breathing, shape changing, and pastel blobs of color, rather than intricate patterning and fractallizing.

I seen/experienced the most intricate and far out visuals and even entities, lots of different faces comming out of the VERY colored like fresh gloppy paint of random colors, the faces/entitites communicating with me non-verbally..it's like ESP or something..but i remember in one trip (when i saw all the faces in the walls), they would still look like they were talking, like the remote was on mute but the program was still playing....from "medium-light" mescal trips (and back then was when i dosed rediculously high dosages of any psych). I've toned down my dosage amount, (when i rarely even trip anymore), quite a bit..in retrospect that is..but that's not to say that once in a blue moon i do ++++ trips. (so sue me) 8)
Anyways, i just wanted to post this because i was starting to read the thread for my own reasons, and the quoted post kind of just stuck out from the others, in regards to, "I gotta fucking ("correct") that". ..that mescal can and does obliterate people (in a heavenly way..could easily be horrible as well..it can very SUPER analytical..like when the guy was talking about LSD..mescal can be "like this" but in a different way...For example, I've seen myself in the mirror, or interacting with people, etc, and would notice, (was more like SEEING a film or something, but that was alive and breathing, and real), i was seeing all these different kind of people and personalities i could easily have..not all of them were comforting in the least..but all in all it was really cool/interesting. This same kind of analytical thinking could/can and is easily applied to anything and everything else you can think of.

Ok, i'm really fucking stoned, I'm gonna stop now...

P.S. - mescaline is one of THE MOST UNIQUE psychedelics (IMO of course), PERIOD. I don't go threw all that trouble of (forget the prepping the cacti(us) and the cooking/, "the work", etc) prepping some pedro or something, it's the drinking that shit, which is like drinking a cup of very bitter snot..it's fuckign distgusting...keeping in mind that i could always just get some tabs or powder of something else and not have to go through all "the work" and the "stomaching" of the various cactus juice methods/recipes...but i do..why? Because mescal is that good.. "good".. ha.. there's no word to explain the priceless/heavenly experience/realm that mescaline is. JUST TRY IT YOURSELF KIDS!..do it today! 8)

ok, back to the weed...bye

*EDIT* - heh, I just realized that Xorkorth, that you were the poster i was quoting. I'll go hit choir practice a-sap.

 

[Dragynfyr]

Take some mescaline out in the woods with a couple friends and a fire at night. It'll change your life.

Visuals are way better at night anyway, easier to see the trees faces...=')

 

[Paralogic]

Does anyone know if you could basify a boiled down cacti tea, then extract mescaline with solvents and salt it with HCl? I know this can be done for cacti flesh but I am not too sure about tea.

 

[TheBark]

Method

Here is another method in the testing phase...I'll let you know how it goes tomorrow.

2.3/4ft of fresh san pedro...I would have rather dried the sanP but time does not permit.
Blend in a food processor.
Prepare jello, a flavor of preference and put in the freezer.
In an hour mix in the san pedro into the prepared batch of jello and wait for it to set over the course of an additional hour.

Hope this works folks...I'll let yalls know in the mornin.

 

[swilow]

^Yeah I think having the mescaline-brewed in a similar, yet less vile, slippery substance to the snot could make it go down easier....I only ever felt comfortable towards the gunk when t was semi-frozen; the slushy texture was expected of such a drink, and didn't cause my entire body to enter mescaline rejection mode (MRM).

EDIT: curious, how many doses do you expect from your cactus?

 

[TheBark]

Method EpisodeII

Here is another method in the testing phase...I'll let you know how it goes tomorrow.

2.3/4ft of fresh san pedro...I would have rather dried the sanP but time does not permit.
Blend in a food processor.
Prepare jello, a flavor of preference and put in the freezer.
In an hour mix in the san pedro into the prepared batch of jello and wait for it to set over the course of an additional hour.

Hope this works folks...I'll let yalls know in the mornin.

If I would do this method again, I would have boiled the solids down, done a straining process followed by more boiling to result in a high concentration liquid, and then mixing that in with jello. I suggest this because when I made the jello with just the solids alone (only liquid was in the cactus except when mixing jello), I ran into three problems:
-I had about a gallon and a quarter of jello to eat between two people. And it wouldn't have been so bad but...
-The sanP skin was so tough that it scrapped the inside of my throat and made me want to gagg.
-There was about an inch worth of foamy jello ontop and 2-3inches of solids that sat on the bottom. I would have rathered it all mixed in evenly.

Other than that this method was a miracle. No more nasty bitter vomit toothpaste taste to have to gag down...It actually tasted quite good in comparison!!! I think making a liquid concentration jello would be spot on.

Of course, we did not reach threshold because there was so much to ingest and we probably ate about an 1/8 of the jello before we felt bloated. Next time (which will be my 4th time cooking sanP) I sense success.

Until next time...

 

[tregar]

Since extracting tan/whitish mescaline from torch, I've never gone back to everclear extracts/water extracts...I don't miss the gagging, belching, burping, nausea, stomach rebellion, horrible taste at all...it is so easy to extract, just takes a time & money investment for things like sep funnel, 5 gallon carboy, lye, solvents, etc. but well worth it imho. 200 to 300mg of tan/whitish mescaline will set you free with no nausea/stomach problems or bad taste.

 

[Tryptamite]

Would it be a bad idea to go clubbing on mescaline?

 

[Xorkoth]

^^ Almost surely yes. Even if it wasn't scary or anything, if it were me, I would want to stay far away from that kind of scene on mescaline. The best setting by a long shot is outside in nature. Mescaline helps greatly to connect one to nature and you will not regret using it in such a manner.

 

[swilow]

^I would never go seal clubbing on any drug duuuude.

I think a doof would be nice on mescaline- everyones vomiting at them all the time anyway, plus they are out in Beauitufl places such as are found throughout gorgeous victoria. However, in door club and mescaline would be shit and over physical I'd think. Mescaline makes me pretty jellyish, so while I could probably stomp yp a bit of dirt, I don't think I could shuffle away to anything hard, or that required more then gyrations of the arms. I also find the comeup nausea really stresses my mind (Xorkoth, thus the weirdness of me several days ago ) and makes me think I am panicking- until I vomit, after which I usually feel quite good. That type of feeling in a steamy club would likely launch ME into a very bad space. Mescaline and people is a bit weird.

 

[DOHP]

I have found an online vendor selling Peruvianus Cacti, I was woundering how many grams I would need for a strong 3-4 trip.
They sell in these quantitys: 20g, 60g and 120g.
Thanks for any answers.