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The Big and Dandy Basic LSD (acid) Questions Thread (First archived 10-31-07)

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How is one's vision at low/moderate doses? Is it like standard vision but with visuals and such or is there a sorta dream state similar to other substances?
 
^ At low to moderate doses I still have somewhat altered vision. I guess you could say it's dream like. It always feel fake and surreal. Almost as if I am walking around on a set of a movie, where everything is fake.
 
Any quantity of acid will have a similar, overall 'softening' effect on my vision. By this I mean that the texture of whatever I am looking at actually appears to be sort of... fuzzy... if that makes any sense. I imagine that some would compare this to a dream state. I always figured that at least some of this softening effect is due to massive pupil dialation, but I could be wrong.

Regarding actual 'visuals', I seldomly get any at all, on LSD or any other psych. I have always been fascinated by the drastic differences between individuals regarding the amount of visual disturbances caused by equal amounts of LSD... very interesting indeed.

The only notable visual experience I have ever had on LSD was after eating 4 decent window panes, the highest I have ever gone. After the peak, my brain seemed to keep stacking images from my peripheral field of vision on top of what was directly in front of my eyes, hard to describe. Sort of melting one image into the next. It was very interesting :)

I wonder why some people experience massive visual effects while others barely experience any? Does it boil down to complex neurological differences between people, or do you think it could be explained by some psychological mechanism of how a person interprets the psychedelic state??

Hmmm....
 
This question was probably answered. I've been searching for 20 min straight here and can't find a straight answer.

Are their other psychedelics other than LSD, potent enough to be put on a typical single blotter paper tab, that do not have any taste at all?

I took one last night at around 10pm. Had zero taste. All I could taste was the paper. I really didn't feel any effects for an hour and a half or so. It was a weak hit. What I did feel was minimal. I was able to fall asleep 5-6 hours after i took it.

They've got pink panthers on them...

I couldn't find it, but they resemble this one in color pattern..

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Although I think you'd need to take several hits to get a strong dose, I've heard of DOx being sold as LSD
 
yes, but i'm not so sure it was a DOx. I believe a DOx trip would last much. much longer than my trip last night.
 
Why do you doubt it was LSD in the first place? Because from your description, it would seem like it could have easily been a low dose of LSD.
 
something was missing. it just didn't feel like the wonderful LSD i've had before. and the duration.. it only lasted 5 hours or so.
 
Hmm well the thing is that no-one can really identify the substance you had for you, but I can't really think of a psychedelic that lasts 5 hours and fits on a blotter. It is possible it was LSD after all, personally I've had the onset and duration of LSD experience vary a lot, not just from batch to batch but from trip to trip within the same batch as well. The fact that it didn't feel like "the wonderful LSD" might simply be because the dose was low - not all trips are wonderful with LSD, and there's a lot of variables really.
 
Are their other psychedelics other than LSD, potent enough to be put on a typical single blotter paper tab, that do not have any taste at all?
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Yes. 5-Meo-AMT, AMT, DOxx. BTW, we don't help ID your drugs. Sounds like weak acid though.
 
jaroben said:
something was missing. it just didn't feel like the wonderful LSD i've had before. and the duration.. it only lasted 5 hours or so.
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Weak acid will seem to last a shorter time because the end-phase effects become so weak as to be almost unoticeable. If you want to go to sleep after 5 hours, you will probably be able to, if you smoke some dope it may just feel like strong dope. Sounds like weak acid.

I think the 8 - 12 hours standard effects length is probably based on a reasonable dose (100-200ug perhaps. Certainly more than 250ug for me consistently lasts 12 hours before I "know" that I'm back to base line). So if you had around 50ug, I can imagine that by T + 5.00 hours it might feel as if you're back down.

Just MHO though.

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i appreciate your responses. I was aware no one could possibly throw up the slightest guess as to what I took. Though the more opinion from educated and experienced people, the easier it can be to decipher what it was.

I dropped 2 from the same batch earlier on today and had a wonderful trip, just at the tail-end of it now as I type(though i use "tail-end" lightly because i'm actually tripping pretty good now and I don't have anything else to base it off of). I really didn't expect to trip as hard as I did, to tell the truth, and couldn't be more satisfied.

I believe I just had a really weak hit that night. Possibly due to potency loss? Either that or the difference between taking one and taking two hits is astronomical, which i'm guessing is the correct answer.
 
also

It had quite the body load. I sit here with a smashing headache and stomach cramps.
 
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^Well the difference between one hit and two is double the LSD, and with something as potent as acid thats pretty big. Headache and stomach cramps are usually reminescent of a 'during' acid experience, so yeah sounds like LSD.
 
true Lsd is much more mind expanding in a much easier to handle and slower way than shrooms.... however both have the capability to be very powerful Lsd doesn't rush you in and out like shrooms do. In fact Good lsd will make you forget that time exists and allows you to utilize your mind to its fullest extent in this timeless feeling i call it a feeling because truly time doesnt cease to exist but only your perception of the time. and I've never once had this type of feeling with shrooms usually I'm begging for more time with the shrooms and sometimes its quite the opposite with the acid.
 
The term "DOxx" is used in a similar way to how MDxx is used- there are many different substituted amphetamines that begin with the letters DO- such as DOB, DOC, DON, DOI- theres probably more too. Someone help out?

Anyone the point is the DOxx class of phenethylamine's are active at doses in the single milligrams (1-5mg or more)- a dose which can easily filt onto blotter paper- obviously a medium upon which LSD is sold as well. The problem with this is that one cannot be sure if they are ingesting a chemical of the DOxxx series, or LSD- except that the DOx lasts for up to 36 hours, can be overly stimulating (to some) and unenjoyable (to some). Also there is the major problem of longevity....

Its a real pity that these drugs exist in a way, as they have been sold since the sixties as acid, and probably account for SOME of the negativity around it. Myself personally have never sampled a DOx drug, and would not wish to- more reasons why I am wary of blotter. The one thing that may help to know is that DOxx or adultereated blotters will taste, whereas LSD is odourless and tasteless.
 
^^ Well, the DOX drugs are a class of psychedelics that is very worthwhile in its own right. However, it IS a shame that people are greedy and that it's become a problem that it is misrepresented as acid. :\
 
Basically the DOx class is for the alpha-methyl (amphetamine) versions of 2C-x. DOM, DOET, DOPR, DOB, DOI, DOC, DON are alpha-methyl versions of 2C-D, 2C-E, 2C-P, 2C-B, 2C-I, 2C-C, 2C-N, respectively. There are also amphetamine versions for 2C-T-x compounds, but they are named Alephs (eg Aleph-2 and Aleph-7 for alpha-methyl versions of 2C-T-2 and 2C-T-7).

I have only tried DOI thus far from this class, and despite most people finding it the least worthwhile of the DOx, I gotta admit I enjoy it a great deal. It's more psychedelic than you would think - even less than 1mg can provide decent mind-manifesting effects; and it's not that much more stimulating than 2C-I, if at all. The only really unpleasant thing about it for me is the duration, it can really grow weary on you during the comedown phase (this coming from someone who enjoys amphetamine a lot), but overall a really nice substance.

But yeah, it truly is a shame about it being sold as acid. These substances are for serious psychonauts only, as they require lots of commitment (especially time-wise), and will generally not be a great experience for someone who is thinking they're in for a 12-hour ride maximum, only to find out in reality the trip lasts twice as long.
 
Good post. And yes, I also find that the DOXs are quite psychedelic. DOC and DOM are two of the strongest psychedelics I've used. My experience with DOC (by far the most of the DOXs) has been important to me. I have tried DOC, DOM, DOI, and DOB.
 
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