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The Big and Dandy AMT Thread - 2nd incarnation

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I have tried the hcl and freebase on separate occasions and after trying a plugged dose then oral followed a few days later I can't really distinguish between the two so I just use oral now. The freebase doesn't have to be smoked. I haven't felt the need to try.

Can't comment on taking the freebase and hcl at the same time I'm afraid I'm sure someone more knowledgeable than I (and there's a hell of a lot of them around here ;)) will be able to answer that.

Just about to go out and get out from behind my laptop screen for a change but just when I think the visuals are all completely gone I'll get a little wiggle of straight lines or a cluster of lights are born and vanish before my eyes.
 
I am having some of this at the weekend. I find that with most other drugs alcohol calms the intense initial rushes. How would booze sit with amt?
 
^Cannabis is a better idea since the aMT onset makes some people nauseated. Alcohol is best saved for winding down, though I've certainly used it at the peak to party on aMT, just usually in combination with Adderall.
 
I'm interested in how this compound is psychedelic but also stimulant in such small quantites. I know with psychedelics a tiny tiny amount can be very powerful but usually with something giving a stimulant effect you take maybe a half gram or more which obviously you would never do with this. How so how does the amphetamine like side take effect in such a small dose I wonder?

After doing lots of Mcat earlier in the year it will be nice not to be caning something like a fiend.
 
BobWeir'd said:
I'm interested in how this compound is psychedelic but also stimulant in such small quantites. I know with psychedelics a tiny tiny amount can be very powerful but usually with something giving a stimulant effect you take maybe a half gram or more which obviously you would never do with this. How so how does the amphetamine like side take effect in such a small dose I wonder?

After doing lots of Mcat earlier in the year it will be nice not to be caning something like a fiend.
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DO'x's, 2c-I, 5-meo-mipt/dipt. All those are psychedelics with stimulative properties. It really has to do with which receptors the drug touches as to the stimulative effects and also how greatly it binds with said receptor.
 
with something giving a stimulant effect you take maybe a half gram or more
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That's not true at all. If you took half a gram of amphetamine you would be in serious trouble. Cocaine dose is about 50mg, MDPV maybe 15mg, methamp is active at about 1mg...
 
I was thinking mephedrone when I said that and maybe I should rephrase. I mean abit more than just an effect. I know what you mean if stuff is very pure^^

So am I right in thinking it's you're brain which makes you think or feel like your stimulated but without lots of powder in your system which equates to a nice time without the poisoned like comedown effects associated with speed / mephedrone etc?
 
^I don't think you just think or feel that you're stimulated i.e. physiological measures or imaging techniques would indicate your body/brain is stimulated independently of subjective effect.

I think the central reason why aMT doesn't have a shitty comedown is because it lasts so long and is metabolized much more slowly than most stimulants. With something like mephedrone you get a quick monoamine dump, the it's metabolized and stops releasing over a short time, the monoamines breakdown or are taken back into vesicles shortly thereafter and the rug is pulled out from under your good times (crash boom, bleh)
 
Done about 50mg of aMT freebase last night..

What's all the fuss about? I didn't like it atall.

I mean, i didnt hate it.. but all i got was slight visuals (deeper colour) and some crappy body load which made moving feel un-natural and like the simplest movements become more of a conscious effort.. If the mood lift was there it was so slight it may aswell not have been there.. plus there was no euphoria.. just a feeling that i was warm (but not exactly in a nice way)..

Got a crappy sleep.. kept waking up with a headache (not too bad) and no afterglow..

Meh.
 
^Different strokes I guess. If you haven't been doing other stims recently I don't know what else to say. Its monoamine release profile is comparable to MDMA or meth (just over a longer time), so it's strange you didn't get euphoria. Also, like has been mentioned a lot recently in this thread, there can be huge variation between sessions in the same person at the same dose. I've had times where the visuals were really prominent and distinct and the euphoria was sort of light and others where I was blissing out blowing bubbles in a serotonin hot tub but with no visual effects beyond brighter colors.

These days it's more consistent for me, but it took my brain about 8 years to figure out exactly what it wanted to do with the stuff (i.e. heavy on the euphoria and self-love and compassion and leave the psychedelia to the drugs I combine with it).
 
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Done about 50mg of aMT freebase last night..

What's all the fuss about? I didn't like it atall.

I mean, i didnt hate it.. but all i got was slight visuals (deeper colour) and some crappy body load which made moving feel un-natural and like the simplest movements become more of a conscious effort.. If the mood lift was there it was so slight it may aswell not have been there.. plus there was no euphoria.. just a feeling that i was warm (but not exactly in a nice way)..

Got a crappy sleep.. kept waking up with a headache (not too bad) and no afterglow..

Meh.
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Strange.

I'm in heaven right now, personally after 3hrs30 on 50mg.
 
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^Different strokes I guess. If you haven't been doing other stims recently I don't know what else to say.
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I abused MDMA to fuck but that was like over a year.. no wait.. like 3 years ago now? I've also gone on some mad amphetamine binges and mephedrone binges but still it's been months since i done either.. with my abuse slowily turnin into use towards the end.

Ah god please don't tell me my neurons are permafried to the point i'm gonna be unable to enjoy the drugs i loveeee (MDMA + Stims)..
 
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Tried insufflating 5mg, wanted to see what the fuss is all about (pain-wise). Yes, I see now. :!
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We warned you!


So I got the full reports back from both people after they had fully come down. They both agreed the body load was nasty (back pain, weird stimulation/sedation mix, head ache on the comedown, severe diuresis, they both vomited when coming up) but they both had an alright trip but neither of them had the sought after empathogenic effects - very psychedelic with sometimes overwhelming flowing visuals and my friend who took 40mg reported some colorful patterns that were morphing wildly. Weird. Not a typical AMT trip.

Oh well I'll hold on to it for a rainy day but for now, I'm going to try to seek out more traditional things (hard to find around here) and the 4-HO/4-AcO families.
 
Eh, try some meth or mephedrone since they're similar in action to aMT (I'm assuming mephedrone is, at least). If they work the way you remember you're good and aMT maybe just isn't for you. I'd give it another shot in a few weeks or so to make sure this wasn't just a one time fluke.
 
Meph stopped working the same.. so did amphetamine.. both reduced me to an anxiety ridden paranoid nut..

:(
 
Would it be considered normal for my aMT to be quite hard? The pack has arrived and is a mix of powder and fairly large lumps which crush easily enough with a bash

Only because magikat mentioned hers was quite clumpy and caused her some problems
 
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Meph stopped working the same.. so did amphetamine.. both reduced me to an anxiety ridden paranoid nut..

:(
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Ouch, that sucks. Well, at least you've got opiates. Combining stimulating versions of them or kratom with 5-HT psychedelics might re-capture some of the tripartite monoaminergic magic of those three.

Regarding the clumpy aMT: it probably just got packed down super tight for shipping or maybe it's from previous freezer storage.
 
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