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The Big and Dandy AMT Thread - 2nd incarnation

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People and their cockiness and absolutely disrespect for these chemicals disgust me..

Anyway, to answer your question, at 50mg you will most likely have a lot of difficulty doing anything that requires much focus and depending on whether or not you get visuals, everything might look rather flowy and walking could make you dizzy. Particularly if you have patterned carpet or hardwood floors or patterned tiles...
 
MagickalKat777 said:
People and their cockiness and absolutely disrespect for these chemicals disgust me..

Anyway, to answer your question, at 50mg you will most likely have a lot of difficulty doing anything that requires much focus and depending on whether or not you get visuals, everything might look rather flowy and walking could make you dizzy. Particularly if you have patterned carpet or hardwood floors or patterned tiles...
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i wasnt trying to be cocky in the slightest Magical, sorry if ya think that, i was wanting to know can you function at 50 mg as in go to a shop , walk my dogs etc
 
People... let me put this in language everyone can understand. This chemical is completely unique. It has effects of both the amphetamine and tryptamine families. Overdose can be fatal. This is a truly stimulating (not in your head) tryptamine and high doses have the potential to cause stimulation beyond that of ANY of the 2C family. If you look at the skeleton of AMT versus AMP, its not hard to see why.

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AMT

Please don't be reckless with this stuff and get cocky thinking "oh I've done so much of ______" - I don't give a fuck what you've done before, this chemical is an entirely different beast from any of it. People have been hospitalized and people have DIED from this drug. Don't take a "threshold" dose and then say "oh that 15mg didn't seem to do much, lets see what 50mg does"... jesus christ people, use your heads!
 
Scoobysnacks said:
i wasnt trying to be cocky in the slightest Magical, sorry if ya think that, i was wanting to know can you function at 50 mg as in go to a shop , walk my dogs etc
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Sorry but the way you came off saying oh I did 15mg threshold a few weeks back, then talked about your prior experience, etc...

The problem isn't necessarily the intensity of the trip. Its the dose-response curve. And the very strong reality that AMT can be an intense stimulant in high doses and higher doses can also have a higher tryptamine body load.

There was a HUGE jump between the 10mg trial I had and the 30mg dose I took the very next day... had I waited a week between dosing, that 30mg may have been even MORE intense...
 
MagickalKat777 said:
People... let me put this in language everyone can understand. This chemical is completely unique. It has effects of both the amphetamine and tryptamine families. Overdose can be fatal. This is a truly stimulating (not in your head) tryptamine and high doses have the potential to cause stimulation beyond that of ANY of the 2C family. If you look at the skeleton of AMT versus AMP, its not hard to see why.

amphetamine_2d.gif
Amphetamine

amt_2d.gif
AMT

Please don't be reckless with this stuff and get cocky thinking "oh I've done so much of ______" - I don't give a fuck what you've done before, this chemical is an entirely different beast from any of it. People have been hospitalized and people have DIED from this drug. Don't take a "threshold" dose and then say "oh that 15mg didn't seem to do much, lets see what 50mg does"... jesus christ people, use your heads!
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50mg seems to be a good dose for what i am after, visuals etc, i think it would be hard to overdose at that level if taken by itself, as i said i just want to know can ya keep ya shit together if need be?
 
From Erowid:

# We have also received several reports of severe vomiting, dissociation, dehydration, and extreme reactions with as little as 40mg oral AMT. New users should not begin experimentation above the threshold level of any psychoactive drug and should slowly work their way up over the course of several sessions to avoid dangerously strong reactions.
# People experienced in experimenting with powerful psychoactives recommend starting with very low doses and working up to check for one's personal thresholds for each compound.

But hey, do what you want. I've personally overdosed on AMT before and I don't remember much of anything but my friend who was with me was about two seconds from driving me to the hospital.

50mg should be fine as long as you aren't sensitive to it... But I've seen as little as 40mg break a hard core acid tripper down to tears.

Also, 21 of the 34 trip reports classified as health problems were AMT only, not combinations... 16 of those were 30mg or above. A number of them BETWEEN 30 and 50mg...

Just be careful. Honestly you can always redose 3 hours into the trip if thirty isn't enough with the other 20...
 
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From Erowid:

# We have also received several reports of severe vomiting, dissociation, dehydration, and extreme reactions with as little as 40mg oral AMT. New users should not begin experimentation above the threshold level of any psychoactive drug and should slowly work their way up over the course of several sessions to avoid dangerously strong reactions.
# People experienced in experimenting with powerful psychoactives recommend starting with very low doses and working up to check for one's personal thresholds for each compound.

But hey, do what you want. I've personally overdosed on AMT before and I don't remember much of anything but my friend who was with me was about two seconds from driving me to the hospital.

50mg should be fine as long as you aren't sensitive to it... But I've seen as little as 40mg break a hard core acid tripper down to tears.
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i gonna have 39mg to start and an eleven mg booster later:P

/me snuggles Kat xx
 
I would seriously recommend starting with 30 and saving the 20 for 3 hours after the dose if you aren't feeling it as much as you'd like... or 4 hours to be on the safe side... see my edits I did to that post.
 
MagickalKat777 said:
I would seriously recommend starting with 30 and saving the 20 for 3 hours after the dose if you aren't feeling it as much as you'd like... or 4 hours to be on the safe side... see my edits I did to that post.
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Im thinking of starting with 30mg myself scooby, maybe even 25mg and then topping up 3-4 hours later if need be.

How do I tell the difference between the HCL and freebase versions?
 
I can't believe how much this is taking off now. It was quite difficult to get hold of a few months ago on the net (unless you knew where to look) and now it couldn't be more simple. I'm worried that people will buy it and ignore the warnings about how taking only small amounts of the chemical could potentially kill you. A shit storm is brewing. I fucking love aMT but I think its legal days could be numbered. :(
 
Mullered said:
Im thinking of starting with 30mg myself scooby, maybe even 25mg and then topping up 3-4 hours later if need be.

How do I tell the difference between the HCL and freebase versions?
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Ask your vendor about it because of the 20% dose adjustment.

Yerg said:
How does looking at the structure tell you that?
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AMT is amphetamine with a tryptamine instead of PEA skeleton.
 
Right, but when you take away the phenethylamine from amphetamine, you're only left with a single methyl group. Does the same logic apply to alpha-methylfentanyl? After all, that's alpha methylated.
 
ok thanks dont think i will take it for tiesto maybe try 6-apb. so would amt be good for a night in with some trance music?
 
Scoobysnacks is up to his/her old tricks again. All he/she seems to do is infiltrate a certain thread and ask questions or claim 'facts' that Bluelight's resident moderator feels obliged to answer which is quite frankly a waste of their time.

Scoobysnacks has been wetting on about various subjects including AMT & 6-APB for ages now and keeps asking basic questions, etc. which only serve to distort and clog up the thread - in my newbie opinion.

Scoobysnacks, please go away and stop ruining every thread you get involved in. You really do not seem to ever post anything worthwhile and I for one have been reading for months now.

This website has Harm Reduction as its main reason to exist and too many people are clouding the waters and wasting genuine posters/viewers/enquirer's time and energy - let alone the moderators who have to patiently deal with irrelevant waffle in a balanced and surely exasperating manner (for them and most of us who are simply seeking harm reduction info).

Mods: I've read the rules carefully and don't think I've broken any - sorry in advance if that's not the case. Just fed up with reading posts that continuously confuse the issues at stake.
 
feeny87 said:
ok thanks dont think i will take it for tiesto maybe try 6-apb. so would amt be good for a night in with some trance music?
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6-APB? You're kidding right?

Seriously, save the research chems for a save environment. Ie., at home. I remember taking a low level dose of 2C-C and going to a party... had a terrible experience even though 2C-C had never had a body load to it or a dark head space, I couldn't breathe, I was freaked out by the lights... even going in the chill room, the echo of the music made me dizzy and nauseous...

Sorry but I just can't advocate research chemicals at parties. I would be extremely reckless to advocate it.

And yes, AMT would be fantastic for a night in with some trance music.
 
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