The Big and Dandy AMT Thread - 2nd incarnation

[Scoobysnacks]

Im thinking of starting with 30mg myself scooby, maybe even 25mg and then topping up 3-4 hours later if need be.

How do I tell the difference between the HCL and freebase versions?

im not sure what the freebase looks like mate, Ben will know that , the hcl doing the rounds in the uk is grey and very similar to cemment with varying size granules alongside dust, just got three 5mg diazepam off my brother in law for the comedown, decided im gonna take 40mg and save 10 mg for smoking at a later date

Scoobysnacks is up to his/her old tricks again. All he/she seems to do is infiltrate a certain thread and ask questions or claim 'facts' that Bluelight's resident moderator feels obliged to answer which is quite frankly a waste of their time.

Scoobysnacks has been wetting on about various subjects including AMT & 6-APB for ages now and keeps asking basic questions, etc. which only serve to distort and clog up the thread - in my newbie opinion.

Scoobysnacks, please go away and stop ruining every thread you get involved in. You really do not seem to ever post anything worthwhile and I for one have been reading for months now.

This website has Harm Reduction as its main reason to exist and too many people are clouding the waters and wasting genuine posters/viewers/enquirer's time and energy - let alone the moderators who have to patiently deal with irrelevant waffle in a balanced and surely exasperating manner (for them and most of us who are simply seeking harm reduction info).

Mods: I've read the rules carefully and don't think I've broken any - sorry in advance if that's not the case. Just fed up with reading posts that continuously confuse the issues at stake.

im honoured you would spend the energy and time to make an account with that nick, im also flattered you have read everyone of my posts:D, i asked a question which was answered, scooby bashing is so last year mate

 

[Mullered]

im not sure what the freebase looks like mate, Ben will know that , the hcl doing the rounds in the uk is grey and very similar to cemment with varying size granules alongside dust, just got three 5mg diazepam off my brother in law for the comedown, decided im gonna take 40mg and save 10 mg for smoking at a later date

I've checked the site where my sample is coming from and its supposed to be freebase. Am I right in saying that the freebase is the stronger version and should be dosed 20% less than the HCL version? Or have I got it the wrong way round?

 

[Vader]

Yes, the freebase is stronger.

 

[Mullered]

So would 20mg be a reasonable starting dose for an experienced substance user?

 

[ashtray girl]

I'd suggest 25-30mg of freebase to start. Then top up 3+ hours later, if you need to.

 

[Mullered]

I'd suggest 25-30mg of freebase to start. Then top up 3+ hours later, if you need to.

How trippy is it generraly at around the 30mg mark? Im not really into anything overly psychedelic , Im looking more fore the seratonine release, empathy and stimulation etc. Is it possible to get these effects without it being trippy?

 

[MagickalKat777]

2 CB and 4aco DIPT are very nice party chemicals, "RC" means nothing, its not a class of product, you cant make a rule that apply to any "RC".

2C-B has been used at parties for years upon years. It also is not a research chemical and has a relatively known safety profile.

4-AcO-DiPT doesn't last long enough to be of much use at a party... I suppose it could be a good sit against the wall most of the night but only trip hard for 2 hours kind of drug... but that's boring at a huge party. Perfectly fine for a house party.

 

[MagickalKat777]

How trippy is it generraly at around the 30mg mark? Im not really into anything overly psychedelic , Im looking more fore the seratonine release, empathy and stimulation etc. Is it possible to get these effects without it being trippy?

Sounds like a good dose if that's what you're looking for.

 

[Mullered]

2C-B has been used at parties for years upon years. It also is not a research chemical and has a relatively known safety profile.

4-AcO-DiPT doesn't last long enough to be of much use at a party... I suppose it could be a good sit against the wall most of the night but only trip hard for 2 hours kind of drug... but that's boring at a huge party. Perfectly fine for a house party.

Whats AMT like in a party / club situation?

 

[MagickalKat777]

Whats AMT like in a party / club situation?

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showpost.php?p=8770895&postcount=1249

Read that and my posts on page 51.

In general, its pretty overwhelming although its wonderful at outdoor events as long as they aren't too hot and you have a place you can sit and relax when things get overwhelming. Big rave/club-type parties I and my friends have gotten sick and just had a shitty time until we went outside... This is especially true for venues that have no cooling.

 

[Mullered]

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showpost.php?p=8770895&postcount=1249

Read that and my posts on page 51.

In general, its pretty overwhelming although its wonderful at outdoor events as long as they aren't too hot and you have a place you can sit and relax when things get overwhelming. Big rave/club-type parties I and my friends have gotten sick and just had a shitty time until we went outside... This is especially true for venues that have no cooling.

Thanks for the info Magickal. Im so gutted that I have already been to the last big dance festival of the season in the uk before discovering AMT. Theres a decent big trance club not far from where I live but it can get hot and crowded in there although they do have a large outside area thats easily accesible. Ill see how it goes when I road test it with my other half next weekend then hopefuly I will be able to make a more educated decesion as to whether I will find it suited to a club environment

 

[gannetsarewe]

Thanks for the info Magickal. Im so gutted that I have already been to the last big dance festival of the season in the uk before discovering AMT. Theres a decent big trance club not far from where I live but it can get hot and crowded in there although they do have a large outside area thats easily accesible. Ill see how it goes when I road test it with my other half next weekend then hopefuly I will be able to make a more educated decesion as to whether I will find it suited to a club environment

It is not a club drug, you could use small amounts and be sociable but you would or may find it too debilitating if you took a psychedelic dose. Pointless really paying in and perhaps waiting 4 or 5 hours in the outside area waiting for the BL to wear off so you are able to climb into a cab to go home. I wasted an afternoon on it, it happened to me at the beach too lazy to walk anywhere and I had to ring a friend to be bring me home because I didn't fancy trying to get my babies pushchair onto the bus.

 

[MagickalKat777]

*sigh*

AMT arrived today... its seen better days and I honestly don't know how decomposed it is and if its worth messing with... it stuck to the inside of the baggie like crazy... took me working the bag for about 15 minutes to get it up from scaling 846mg to 996mg (was a 1g order) and there is still a lot stuck in the bag. Even after putting it in a glass vitamin bottle and agitating it, its still all clumped together... and good god the smell is so bad...

I am going to be pissed if I wasted as much money as I spent on this... My hands smell like moth balls just from handling the bag...

 

[Banjo Fury]

i wasnt trying to be cocky in the slightest Magical, sorry if ya think that, i was wanting to know can you function at 50 mg as in go to a shop , walk my dogs etc

Going by your bad experience with the 6 apb pellets (your six day comedown and added stimulation) I'd give this one a miss if I was you. Certainly not at the 50mg you are talking about. Some people have bad reactions and you seem prone to it.

In answer to your question, at 50mg NO - you would not be able to function properly! Set and setting. If you have anything urgent in the 24hrs after taking don't do it.

Last thing we all need is you spamming this thread and internet with your bad experiences because you did not treat this with the respect it deserves.

Take the advice and start low.

 

[feeny87]

6-APB? You're kidding right?

Seriously, save the research chems for a save environment. Ie., at home. I remember taking a low level dose of 2C-C and going to a party... had a terrible experience even though 2C-C had never had a body load to it or a dark head space, I couldn't breathe, I was freaked out by the lights... even going in the chill room, the echo of the music made me dizzy and nauseous...

Sorry but I just can't advocate research chemicals at parties. I would be extremely reckless to advocate it.

And yes, AMT would be fantastic for a night in with some trance music.

well when the 6-apb samples wer going i was lucky enough to receive one and it blew my mind so i reckon it would do nicely for tiesto. i just havent tried these pellets that are getting so many diff reports so thats why i was thinking about amt!

 

[Xamkou]

25mg freebase aMT, for me, went from total euphoria to a horrible state of dysphoria back to total euphoria with added entactogen/empathogen qualities and lovely little visuals.

QUESTION: aMT + Ketamine = bad idea?

 

[psood0nym]

The answer to that equation's answer is its inverse. Add nitrous and music and you'll be shorting out your headphones because your brain will be ejaculating out of your ears.

 

[Xamkou]

Daaaaaaang. Thought so.

 

[|>R()|)!G/-\|_]

6 mg +/- 1 of Chinese AMT freebase from 2006 produced some extra visual clarity and clean stimulation. Music, exercise, and the outdoors were wonderful. It was not entirely physically transparent. There was some gut discomfort and feelings of tightness in the forearms and hands. Effects were most pronounced between hours 5 and 7 but were still very mild. I slept and drove fine after 8.5 hours.

 

[Mullered]

The more I read up on the substance the less Im planning to take on my first dose. Initially I was considering 30- 40mg but Im not looking for a full on Psychedelic expereience, Now Im thinking of taking 20mg (my missus will be dropping too).

Im looking for something comparable to an MDMA type roll. Will I get anything like this from 15 - 20mg of freebase?