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The Big and Dandy 4-AcO-DMT thread - New incarnation

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I've never been big on tripping around others.

Why would there be a problem with doing it by yourself? Why wouldn't it be fun?
 
phatass said:
looking forwards to trying this in a couple of days, will probably go for 25-30mg orally... is it fun to do alone, for a first time, just to explore a bit? or is it much better to do with friends?
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Personally I find it awkward being around other people on 4-AcO-DMT unless they are tripping too, for me it's definitely suited to being alone - but it might be different for you.
 
phatass said:
looking forwards to trying this in a couple of days, will probably go for 25-30mg orally... is it fun to do alone, for a first time, just to explore a bit? or is it much better to do with friends?
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I've took 20mg by myself before and had a really awesome time. At one point I remember starting to peak and catching an intense giggle fit looking out my window at trees. I also listened to "Are You Shpongled?" in its entirety just laying on my bed with my eyes closed. It was a great trip.
 
phatass said:
looking forwards to trying this in a couple of days, will probably go for 25-30mg orally... is it fun to do alone, for a first time, just to explore a bit? or is it much better to do with friends?
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On higher doses I certainly prefer being alone on this one.
 
thanks for the answers.... i usually try a new drug alone to test the waters, but shrooms for example i find more fun with friends.. and since this drug has similarities to shrooms (if i've understood correctly) i thought i'd ask y'all...

but yeah, i'll definately trip alone... maybe put on some shpongle (as mentioned above) or chemical brothers... good trippy music... and have a solo trip ;)

thanks for the advice
 
^ If I remember correctly you have a bit of a natural tolerance to psychedelics? I still would think twice about starting with 25-30 mg of this stuff. My friend tried 25 mg for his first time and said it blew any of his 7 gram mushroom trips out of the water!

A few friends like low doses around 12-15 mg and most people find 18-22 mg to be just right. It seems the difference from 15-20 mg and 20-25 mg is rather substantial. I'd suggest no more than 20 mg for your first time, definitely not 30 mg.

Let us know how i goes! One of my favorites, up with LSD, although qualitatively very different.
 
A bit ago I purchased some 4 aco dmt from a popular vendor that recently began stocking it. When it finally came I noticed that it was a tan powder. I've sampled it two times since, and both times I've gotten worrying symptoms. The first time things went well until some strange chest pains started happening. Throughout the experience I also had an increased heart rate, about 120 bmp. I liked the experience overall though, and decided to give it anpother try about a month later.

This second time I plugged it. The chest pains happened again this time and were even stronger than before. My heart rate increased to 130 on average also. I had a stethoscope on hand this time and listen to my heart. I noticed that my heart was beating very irregularly, skipping beats and changing pace about 10 times a minute. I called my girlfriend in to check, thinking it could just be my mind playing tricks on me and she also heard the irregular beating and became very concerned. The chest pains finally dissapated about 6 hours after I plugged it, but it was about 10 hours until I slept.

I trust this vendor a lot, I've done bussiness with them a number of times with no problems in quality, but this makes me wonder if there is some impurity that could be in the tan powder that would cause such weird heart problems. I've seen the tan powder mentioned as being less desireable in a few threads, but never knew specifically why. Has anyone else had chest pains when they've taken it before?

Also, the dosages were 25 oral the first time, and 15 plugged the second time. It seemed considerably weaker than reports I had read also.

Sorry for any typos, was typed on a droid.
 
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Thought I should mention that I had a seizure on 26mg of 4-AcO-DMT a couple of weeks ago.
I had also consumed 2 charges of nitrous oxide roughly 2 hours before the seizure and am unsure as to whether that may have contributed towards it.

I felt great until all of a sudden an overwhelming feeling of dread came over me, my vision began to darken and I had a seizure, supposedly I tensed up for a minute then became dead-weight, during which time an ambulance was called.

I came around to find I couldnt feel or move my right arm however feeling came back in about 15 mins by which time the ambulance had arrived, they checked me all out and said I was fine and that all my readings were normal.

I ordered a gram of this chemical just before this experience and now I am unsure as to whether or not to use this compound again. It was up until this point one of my favourite drugs and I am unsure whether or not it was the primary cause of the seizure.

Also oddly enough the seizure felt somehow beneficial to me although I am aware that it could have and may have caused brain damage, the seizure state of mind as well shared some odd similarities with the k-hole, anyone else find this?
 
are you sure you had a seizure.
I thought it was hard to remember what happens during a seizure (is that what you meant by it similar to a Khole.)

all psychedelics lower your seizure threshold and if you are susceptible to them than you are at risk of having them while tripping.

I dont know of this particular one makes even more likely, but it doesnt seem likely.

A friend of mine has had seizures on mushrooms before.

Basically, its no uncommon for these things to happen.

You can try taking Klonopin next time.
 
love_sex_desire said:
^ If I remember correctly you have a bit of a natural tolerance to psychedelics? I still would think twice about starting with 25-30 mg of this stuff. My friend tried 25 mg for his first time and said it blew any of his 7 gram mushroom trips out of the water!

A few friends like low doses around 12-15 mg and most people find 18-22 mg to be just right. It seems the difference from 15-20 mg and 20-25 mg is rather substantial. I'd suggest no more than 20 mg for your first time, definitely not 30 mg.

Let us know how i goes! One of my favorites, up with LSD, although qualitatively very different.
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well i'm getting 250mg... so i'm going to eye out 10 approx equal doses... i like to trip hard... have experienced u to 250mg of 2C-E in one evening... 3.5 grams of ketamine...5 hits of strong acid (all on seperate occasions), never done high dose of shrooms though... i'm also constantly on valium which tends to dull psychs slightly, and from what i read about the above poster having a seizure , a little valium seems like a good idea...;)... i'm pretty sure i can handle the mental side of 25mg's, hopefully there will be no physicall repurcussions

i'll let you know how it goes;)
 
Delsyd said:
are you sure you had a seizure.
I thought it was hard to remember what happens during a seizure (is that what you meant by it similar to a Khole.)
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I wouldn't have actually been aware that I had a seizure if I had not been told by my girlfriend who was right next to me at the time, when I came out of it I lept straight up and ran into the house, I just thought the 4-AcO was shifting gears at first and the effects felt like a rapidly administered k-hole (Not that I have any experience with IM/IV Ketamine, merely an assumption)

I have a bit of valium and phenazepam on hand but wouldnt like to be dosing them alongside psychedelics everytime I decide to trip, they really do dull the experience quite a bit from previous experience.

Plus I really dont want to become too attached to valium, im having difficulty abstaining from it as it is.

But you think I could try dosing 25mg with some valium and should be fine yeah, I was always under the impression that the risk with this compound shouldn't be too much higher than the risk psilocin carries.
 
Xtc <3 said:
But you think I could try dosing 25mg with some valium and should be fine yeah, I was always under the impression that the risk with this compound shouldn't be too much higher than the risk psilocin carries.
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I was under the same impression.
we have a recent report here of someone eating a half gram and comng out of it fine.
So the safety profile seems to be good with 4 aco dmt.

You should be fine with 25mg valium combined with this.
If you are worried about the valium taking depth away from the trip perhaps dosing higher would take care of that.
But IMO valium makes almost no difference to my trip.
 
Have just ordered some of this and some meph for the mrs....

Anyone have any idea if is safe to combine these? going to a festival next week....

Or failing that would it be safe to take meph in the afternoon and 4-aco-dmt in the evening?
 
a vendor accidently gave me 4-ho-dipt instead of 4-aco-dmt.
Is it possible you accidently acquired some of this instead.

He said that he thought that he got 4-aco-dmt, but accidently ended up getting 2 deliveries of 4-ho-dipt. i got mine and he sent a few out, but then i complained, and he got someone to sample to he notified the others that he accidently sent them the wrong thing.
 
shephard89 said:
Have just ordered some of this and some meph for the mrs....

Anyone have any idea if is safe to combine these? going to a festival next week....

Or failing that would it be safe to take meph in the afternoon and 4-aco-dmt in the evening?
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i think i remember Dondante reporting good effects with this combo at low doses (something like 10mg of 4 aco dmt and 100mg meph)
 
I was thinking of being on meph ost of the day hen hitting he 4-aco-dmt for the evening...
Or will I be better sticking with aMT? I love aMT and my tolerance is now at 0 again...amt + 4-aco-dmt is always good...

AHHHH, cant decide, take it all 3 would be dangerous....
 
Psychonautical said:
a vendor accidently gave me 4-ho-dipt instead of 4-aco-dmt.
Is it possible you accidently acquired some of this instead.

He said that he thought that he got 4-aco-dmt, but accidently ended up getting 2 deliveries of 4-ho-dipt. i got mine and he sent a few out, but then i complained, and he got someone to sample to he notified the others that he accidently sent them the wrong thing.
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Keep the 4ohdipt, its a very goog one, better then 4acoDMT IMO.
Dose is lightly lower, 15 mg is a nice middle dose.
There are no visuals but nice mood lift, if you get visuals, you got 4acoDMT.
 
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