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The Big and Dandy 4-AcO-DMT thread - New incarnation

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I'm sure the acetate got tested (see entries for 4-HO-DET, 4-HO-MiPT, etc), i imagine they just omitted the qualitative effects for brevity, and/or they didn't find a big enough difference from the phosphate & indolol to merit a separate mention.
 
I have recently come into a small quantity of this chem and was wandering what people think it would be like to combine with aMT?

Does anyone else have experience with this combo?

Or is it a bad idea due to the MAOI aspect of aMT?

Got a psychedelic day planned on Saturday, so any info would be appreciated:)
 
^Thanks!^

Any recommended doses? My usual dose of amt is 40mg....

Should I lower my aMT dose with this combo or keep it the same?

REALLY exited about this combination :)
 
This chem sounds like everything I've ever wanted!!! I can't wait to give her a try!!

I recall reading that tolerance doesn't seem to build too rapidly with this one? I was curious about taking this twice in a 4 day setting in which LSD will also be consumed; how will it effect the LSD? I plan to combine them different days. Will I need to significantly increase my dosage?
 
Delsyd said:
i dont know who invented it, but the original custom synth was ordered by a BLer in 2006.
I dont think he thought it up though, as changing an ester isnt exactly difficult to think of (hydroxy to acetoxy).
But its thanks to him we all get to enjoy it now
=D
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Thats an awesome story.
 
Eyeballed a dose say 15mgs at a guess and TBH didn't get much, had some decent CEV's when I went to sleep with colorful fractals etc but other than that not much.

What is a good dose to get better effects 25-30mgs? Or is this just not the drug that u get intense visuals from?

Did see the parallel between a small dose mushroom trip though, definite similar attributes to both drugs.
 
igloo, your first two words say it all. Get some scales before you test further, they are like $20-30 on ebay and you'll have much better, and more consistent success :D
 
instink said:
igloo, your first two words say it all. Get some scales before you test further, they are like $20-30 on ebay and you'll have much better, and more consistent success :D
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Yup I know I need to but I guess my main question is, IS this substance likely to give you good visuals? Or is it just not that kind of drug?
 
igloo: it's a pro-drug of psilocin (the active drug in mushrooms). It should be every bit as visual as mushrooms at the proper dose - many people seem to report that the two drugs have a slightly different feel but the overall intensity and nature of the effects should be largely the same. It sounds like you just eyeballed very conservatively and took less than you intended. Like others say, invest in a scale so you know how much you're dosing, and you'll have a much easier time getting the desired level of intensity.
 
It is certainly one of the more visual psyches for me and I rarely get strong visuals from any psyche. You really, seriously need to get a scale before further doses though - although 4-AcO-DMT is most likely very (physically) benign indeed the dose/response curve can be a bit wonky so small changes in dose can make a surprisingly big difference in effects for some. Get a scale - will be the best $20 you ever spend, I promise :)

The Big & Dandy Scale Thread (New incarnation!)
 
I've also found it to be very visual. It really starts to kick in visually for me at around 24mg and up. the highest dose i've taken was 31mg and it was bbbbbbeautiful! i just finished off the bit i got that was light tan colored, so i ordered more from the same vendor and now that they have a constant stock it is a nice white powder. i have yet to take any of the new batch but plan on it this weekend.


if you're looking for a very decent very cheap scale that works better than you'd expect, i'd recommend going on ebay and searching ".001g" and look for "20g 0.001g Digital Weighing Gem Jewelry Diamond Scale". its only like $16 shipped. i bought it and have very accurately weighed 2ci, 2ce, and 4aco-dmt. of course its not 100% perfect but it gets you to within 1-2mg every time and with the compounds i need to weigh, it does its job very well. and its alot better than eyeballing
 
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Took it again, nothing much to report. Sort of lifted mood, not much else, no visual distortions etc. Not that impressed but will definitely have to invest in some scales, took more than last time too.

Hmmmmm, dunno what to say honestly, not that impressed.
 
igloo said:
Took it again, nothing much to report. Sort of lifted mood, not much else, no visual distortions etc. Not that impressed but will definitely have to invest in some scales, took more than last time too.

Hmmmmm, dunno what to say honestly, not that impressed.
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taking it two days in a row will greatly diminish the effects. You really need to wait 5-7 days at least to let tolerance subside
 
A friend of mine found 25mg of the fumerate salt to be an extremely intense and humbling experience. This stuff is fantastic. He tells me he agrees with those saying the visuals are more characteristic of n,n DMT than those of psilocin. Full out of body experiences were achieved at this dosage level. This material is not suitable for the inexperienced, well at least not at this dosage.
 
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