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The Benzodiazepine Thread Version 5

^ Man I was not saying you are a reckless poster on here, I am saying that staying up for days injecting and smoking methamphetamine is not responsible drug use, as far as I am aware you are still doing that.

I don't want to turn this into an argument, you can either take my advice or not, it seems pretty obvious to me from your posts on here that you have serious issues with drug abuse which have negatively impacted both your life and the lives of those close to you.
 
You seem to be the one turning this into an argument. I don't stay up for days on meth I have a shot every few weeks. Get it right.
 
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The alleged "long action" of diazepam is vastly overrated, in my experience. I know there are supposed to be active metabolites that build up, but I've never noticed any significant effect from them, it just seems like a standard benzo with an action of 4 - 6 hours to me. And as such, yeah, I have the exact same problem as you do in regards to waking up during the night, and have yet to find a way around it.

If you're taking 20mg a day, my best advice is to swap to dosing 5mg every 6 hours or so. 5mg waking up, 5mg during the middle of the day, 5mg before bed and 5mg when you wake up during the night to get back to sleep - I find lying back down and putting it under the tongue works best, they dissolve and kick in quickly this way (compared to swallowing it whole), and then you can swallow it in 5 - 10 minutes and should be back asleep within 10 - 15. Alternatively, just take 2.5 or 5mg off your morning or evening dose and take that when you wake up in the middle of the night.
 
Just picked up a bottle of 2mg xanie bars! Anyone else find Ativan weak? I had probably 5 x 2.5mg pills and felt no effects except extreme hallucinations.
 
I wouldn't worry about the pharmacy picking up on the mistake.
Their fault, not anyone else's.
As for your friend's tendency towards addiction; can you hold onto the extra Valium for your friend?
That's what friends are for, no? :)
 
MakersTable said:
Just picked up a bottle of 2mg xanie bars! Anyone else find Ativan weak? I had probably 5 x 2.5mg pills and felt no effects except extreme hallucinations.
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Ativan isn't "weak," it's just primarily anxiolytic (gets rid of anxiety), with relatively very little amnesia, loss of motor control and hypnotic effect, so it doesn't get you ''fucked up'' the way, say, an equivalent dose of xanax will.
 
Haha yeah that makes sense .... I found some valium 2mg pills in NZ ... They are around.
 
although I highly doubt its the case, while were on the topic, I've had 2mg diaz. scripted many-a-time.. infact, its the only dose I've been scripted lol (I must look like a dodgy cunt :/ )
 
It took me several trips to the ER for panic attacks and alcohol withdrawal before I fianlly got a permanent script for valium. I'd say its good that they don't hand it out willy-nilly but i know friends who have just as bad attacks as me that just cannot get it. I was sent home with 9 x 10mg tablets after being admitted to ER for alcohol withdrawal and I took the empty box and discharge letter to my GP and said this is the best thing that has ever worked and she finally decided to put me on it. I think if you're young they're a lot more hesitant than if you're say in your 40s+
 
I was a daily benzo user for years and after that still used often after method or during a panic attack. Its been about a month now since I took any pills and I rarely think about them at all now. I think the cravings are fairly short lived. Ive had much longer off heroin and meth(not ATM) and the cravings don't give in.

I find that anxiety & panic attacks lessen dramatically too. I haven't had an anxiety or panic attack in weeks. While they are very nice, benzos are a trap! They help with mental stress at first they eventually begin to cause that stress and for most people they don't put two and two together. At my worst I was on 24mg of xanax a day and I suffered for years as a result. If you have an addictive personality, are always anxious or are using meth benzos will eat you alive slowly. Use seroquel instead. Its just as affective without the euphoria but also without withdrawals!
 
Use seroquel instead. Its just as affective
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Gonna have to disagree here, seroquel might knock you out, but it doesn't have the anxiolytic effect, and the side effects are disgusting.
 
Crankinit said:
Gonna have to disagree here, seroquel might knock you out, but it doesn't have the anxiolytic effect, and the side effects are disgusting.
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Definitely, seroquel is no where near as anxiolytic. Bottom line if you have an addictive personality and that 'craving' for a high, don't take benzos.
 
I definitely have that personality type (don't think there's a drug I've tried which I haven't gone overboard with - except weed and psychadelics) and I have to disagree, because benzos just don't get me "high" in the traditional sense, they just give some combination of anxiety relief/muscle relaxation/sedation, depending on the benzo. There's no actual euphoria that I've experienced other than the rush of sheer relief from feeling awful (which is the whole point of a medicine, right?).

I mean yeah, you can argue that all addiction/drug abuse is self medication on some level, but even someone who isn't in pain is quite likely to enjoy a shot of heroin, whereas I've never met anyone who goes out of their way to obtain and take benzose who doesn't suffer anxiety (discounting stimulant users knocking themselves out, which is purely utilitarian).

I'm not saying they're not addictive and can't mess people up, but unlike most "drugs of abuse" there isn't going to be much appeal unless you have the condition in the first place.
 
Crankinit said:
Ativan isn't "weak," it's just primarily anxiolytic (gets rid of anxiety), with relatively very little amnesia, loss of motor control and hypnotic effect, so it doesn't get you ''fucked up'' the way, say, an equivalent dose of xanax will.
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Ativan is Lorazepam right? I agree on all those points except the amnesia. I found it to be really bad for blackouts. Might be because of the dose level which for me was 4mg.
Good for anxiety but not very recreational.
 
triplies said:
That was actually my point, I've seen too many people (myself included at one stage) chase the 'benzo' dragon where they'll continually take it chasing the lack of motor skills/relaxation/lack of stress and anxiety and end up hooked on them. I am prescribed diazepam and take it in therapeutic doses, i don't gain any recreational affect from it and it works wonders. I was trying to get to Ketaman's bottom line which is benzos when used recreationally are more trouble than they're worth. I personally, feel like i'm on MDMA at times of recreational benzo doses but it's only because I suffer from crippling anxiety.

Benzos are just so easy to keep eating and forgetting and before you know it's been a year and you can't stop or you'll end up in hospital.
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Yeah I guess I understand where you're coming from, I definitely went overboard with xanax when my anxiety flared up at the beginning of the year - like I said, from sheer relief. I didn't care about the lack of motor skills or ''getting fucked up'' I just knew this chemical made the anxiety go away and wanted as much of it in me as possible at all times to keep that feeling as far away as I could. Then they rescheduled and I swapped to primarily clonazepam and ativan (though I sampled a whole variety out of sheer curiosity), and eventually my doctor agreed to prescribe me a lower dose of valium if I'd stop buying them illicitly, which I agreed to because the pills were all taking up my disposable income. Now I'm on 30mg of valium a day, one pill every 4 hours like clockwork, it's not complete relief, but with the beta blockers it's enough to keep me functional(ish).

Only problem is that after 9 months on benzos it's really starting to mess with my memory. It was one thing when I was eating up to 10 or 15 bars some days and had to write everything down because I'd forget it an hour later, but now even with just the valium I'm having serious trouble with verbal recall. My thinking processes are fine, but I'll find myself uhming and ahhing a lot during conversations because the word I'm trying to use won't come to mind. Very frustrating :/ Or maybe valium specifically is worse with memory than some of the other benzos I was taking.

But yeah my point was if there's no anxiety in the first place, there's no appeal. I used benzos back before I had anxiety issues for meth comedowns and w/d and whatnot and never had any urge to take them beyond that (in fact I tried it once when I ran out of oxy and hated it), and I've never met anyone does take them without pre-existing anxiety (or insomnia I guess) except for the kind of person who'll eat anything remotely mind-altering. Very different to drugs which induce euphoria which exceeds normal day to day life experience.

Ativan is Lorazepam right? I agree on all those points except the amnesia. I found it to be really bad for blackouts. Might be because of the dose level which for me was 4mg.
Good for anxiety but not very recreational.
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Yeah it is, I guess everyone is just different with side effects. It would be the perfect benzo for me if it had a longer duration and lower price.
 
Crankinit said:
I'm having serious trouble with verbal recall. My thinking processes are fine, but I'll find myself uhming and ahhing a lot during conversations because the word I'm trying to use won't come to mind. Very frustrating :/ Or maybe valium specifically is worse with memory than some of the other benzos I was taking.
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I'm pretty sure they are all very bad for this. Lorazepam is the only benzo I've taken at high doses or for extended periods of time this year and I noticed the verbal recall issues. Not good at all. Its scared me enough to stay away as much as I can.
 
The only euphoria i have felt has been after popping etizolam and smoking a splif a few hours later. Too many dumbasses really believe in chasing the non existing benzo euphoria.
Last trainwreck before quiting involved polysubstance abuse. I will warn on Flubromazolam that is lam not pam. Flubromazolam 1 mg will knock you harder than flunitraz. Flubromazapam: 2 mg to 8 mg depending on tolerance. I know these are RC benzos but im sure some of you will come across them. Flubromazolam... if it lasted longer itd be a new phenaz.
 
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