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The Benzodiazepine Thread v. IV

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lovepsychadelics said:
Mate give the etizolam a break. I fucking love this stuff as well but over use and using it to self medicate is just a big no go zone. Try Avanza as it's easy to get a script from a GP and has hypnotic effects and anti-anxiety (knocks me out for a day if I have a full 30 mg dose). It may take up to 2 weeks to clear the etizolam enough so that you can use them again. Depression from over use of them little blue pills is common and means you need a break, probably at least 1 week. That said I tend to use them every now and again and usually in combination with space cakes. Not the best for coming down off stimulants as I find I need 3-4 mg vs 2 mg xanax.
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it's not withdrawal. Haven't done enough. It is just a side-effect I have with it. The depression from it lasts about two days.

I haven't done etizolam in 7 days and I will not be taking it again. That extra depression from it is horrible. Even though it takes away anxiety - it's not worth it.

Avanza looks interesting~
 
Captain Brewster said:
@ro4ev The short term memory rapes me, I'm shit as it is being a daily cannabis user.
(@ro4eva u fallout fan, me too).
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I am a huge fan of the series. Except perhaps Fallout Tactics. But part 3 for example, my save file says "Play Time: 475 hours 58 min 59 sec". Not that I'm proud of it, but it's so good that it made me lose track of time on way too many occasions.

The only other game I can think of which had me more addicted to it was World of Warcraft. And I loved playing it when I was nodding away. Yeah... =D
 
Never played tactics, obsessed with 3 at one time and New Vegas. I really enjoyed the game style, spent many a noddy moment on 3 (and Vegas to be truthfully honest).

That was fairly bad of me with the OT chat, so kept it quick (I could go on for days).

My nightly benzo has kept me away from other stuff atm. Amazed at the results. I'll be nauhtyish for a week with them then stop all together.

Very handy tool, just wish my local vending machine pumped them out instead of coke zero.

EDIT: actually, I don't (vending machine pipe dream). I've found that amnesia is something I really hate. I'm insecure straight, as is. Wait....... have I already said that this week?
 
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zzz101 said:
Avanza looks interesting~
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We made a thread on it here if you haven't already checked it out.

I'm still using it, my doc prescribed it for me because I was getting NO sleep on ssri/ssni (and whatever else she had in her fun bag from the fair). It helped me sleep and I think Psytaco had very good results from it eventually.

For me it's pooped out I think (or however they put it) as in terms of anti-depressive qualities. Just a ritual before bed.
 
Thanks.

St. John’s Wort didn't have much of an effect. But I think it did. In areas, yea, i'd say it did help. Not a lot.

It's really hard to tell. I don't even know what I'm feeling is depression? Whatever it is, i really don't like it. It's chronic really, but goes away also. And comes back.. Nothing major though, I hide it well enough even though I'm not trying to, i guess.

10mg MXE(snorted): seems to have had a good effect. I'm having MDMA-like thoughts. Not feelings, but the same kind of thoughts - solutions to current problems, great well-being, etc. Yea. It's still not super great because I've got to work on myself getting more confidence. But it's giving me good thoughts. +5hours. Nothing major intense. I think that's the right amount, just enough to feel it.

Normally I'll feel an after-glow too. trying a dose again in 5 days.

It might be helping, not sure yet.
 
Hello All,

New user here: I haven't bothered to read through the entire previous 34 pages of comments but thought I would share my experience here.

I was a daily clonazepam user for the better part of a year, taking 6mg's /day. After slowly decreasing down to 2mg's /day, I stopping taking them as per the Dr. (At that time, I had told the Dr I didn't want to take them anymore due to side effects, I had no idea what was about to occur) I can tell you the two proceeding weeks were the worst of my entire life, bar none. Major convulsions, headaches, not sleeping for 3 days at a time, hallucinations, etc, etc not to mention the emotional state it puts you in. To all potential users, please please please keep this in mind. Benzo's are a very nasty drug to come off of if you take them for any duration of time. I had taken smaller amounts daily (2mg) starting several months after the withdrawals and then decided to stop again mainly due to how it made me feel when I woke up in the morning (really bad depression). This time when I came off of them, I lowered very slightly (0.25mg) per week until I got down to 0.25mg's at which point I cut that in half and used that for a few days and then stopped without any major withdrawals. The trick is leave your self lots of extra pills to ween down off of. Don't take them all and then hope some miraculously drop into your hand before you start going into major withdrawals.
 
^sorry to hear about the hell you went through.

Similar accounts are common across this board. If I read it right: THe doc told you to stop immediately after tapering down to 2mg. That is way to high a dose to jump from. In fact, 2mg is not a small dose of something as potent as clonaz.

I had a similar experience to you, except I stupidly abused my stash of clonaz and took then without any kind of controllled schedule. Because of the half-life being lengthy, I would skip a day here and there and while I wouldn't feel too good on those days I figured it couldn't be too bad if I could 24 hours without. So stupid of me, being an idiot recreational user who hadn't read up (or had but hadn't paid attention).... But for a doctor to tell you to taper like that and then just stop a 2mg.

Well, it goes to show that there aren't many docs who have first hand experience with benzos and the quitting thereof. Terrifying that a doctor could give such advice, but not the first time I've heard such a thing.

EDIT: just wanted to add that althgouh everyone has different experiences with different benzos, for the record, I found clonaz to produce the worst, most out of this world WDs of any benzo. I have taken approx. seven different benzos before, and tried both CT and tapering. Clonaz was the worst of the bunch, for tapering and especially for CT. It created a kind of potent dissociative state characterised by depersonalisation - like an K or MXE hole with extreme dysphoria - and these episodes would come and go randomly over weeks affter cessation of use, making me believe I had permanently damaged by brain and had gone insane forever.
 
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Ive had a benzo script for a couple years now and ive come to enjoy it recreationally at much lower doses than i even got a noticble effect from before. Like 5-10mg is a nice dose for where I want to get. When I was really down and out and got given them without really knowing or caring what they were I never enjoyed them much even at my 20mg dose at the time. That time of my life was shitty enough that just having vallies around and not using them is enough for me generally.
 
Been using etizolam blotters dosed at 2mg for a while now. Really handy to carry around and effective. Tried some flubromazepam powder last week, well more of a crystal. My tolerance is naturally fairly high with benzos for some reason so had a bit under 50mg over the course of a day. It was nice, but the real surprise was waking up the following day feeling refreshed and anxiety free. Interesting substance.
 
I've not noticed any difference. But I normally just chew them up and swallow them. If anything they sometimes take longer to work lol. I'll try sublingual when I'm back from holidays and see if thats any quicker. I know the eitlaam md weren't faster.
 
I get massive placebo high the second i drop an etiz.

Then in like 10 minutes i swear its kicked in, love those suckers.

Does anyone ever snort their benzos? I enjoy the sorta blackout sloppyness rush u get after havinh a few beers then snorting a few etiz, going from in control to sloppy confidence in seconds
 
went into docs yesterday to get some kpins as my Restless leg syndrome has been shocking the last 4 months and am sick of being guinea pigged other meds. however my doc wasn't there it was a new doc who didn't know really what she was doing. She said she couldn't prescribe me Rivotril (clonaz) but was more then happy to give me a script for Xanax. I turned it down as it was November last year when I came off them and never again would I take them.I bet some people reading that would make them jelous and upset tho hahah
 
^ that's good man, taking responsibility, saying no to Xanax due to past abuse problems.

Clonazepam is something you probably shouldent pursue if you've had trouble with benzos in the past. There addictive too, and the half life is a lot longer than Xanax, if you end up with the same issues your withdrawals could be a hell of a lot worse.

Ask Halif about clonaz WD's, I think he's marked them up as the worst he's experienced (wd wise).

But, if you really feel the need, and think you can't get by, and it's for short term use, then maybe a benzo with less strength and abuse potential could help. Stuff like oxazepam, temaz and I'm very hesitant to say (due to past abuse) but good old fashion diazepam.

RLS is a bitch, I hate it.... Sometimes when it's really bad, and I'm getting frustrated from it, I leave the bedroom, to the lounge then 25 squats (now dont go thinking I'm much of a fitness freak person, actually far from it, do enough physical shit at work these days). That usually keeps them at bay for a little while. If it's real bad and it comes back, repeat.
 
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AFA said:
I get massive placebo high the second i drop an etiz.

Then in like 10 minutes i swear its kicked in, love those suckers.

Does anyone ever snort their benzos? I enjoy the sorta blackout sloppyness rush u get after havinh a few beers then snorting a few etiz, going from in control to sloppy confidence in seconds
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Only snorted pyrazolam. That seemed to work a bit better with a few beers. It's a water soluable benzo.
 
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