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The Benzodiazepine Thread v. IV

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I've been taking Diaz for over 6 months, usually 20mg a day, about a month ago I increased to 30-40mg diaz a day for about a month, haven't had any for 5 days and no withdrawals.

I did just receive some Etizolam powder 25mg, I took what i believe to be about 15-20mg about 3 hours ago. Very relaxing benzo, nice with some codiene. I know it's a heavy dose but I have nothing to dissolve it with so I thought fuck it. This will probably be in my system for a while...
 
The-Future said:
I've been taking Diaz for over 6 months, usually 20mg a day, about a month ago I increased to 30-40mg diaz a day for about a month, haven't had any for 5 days and no withdrawals.
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Diaz is more addictive than you often realise because of the long half-life it builds up in your system. I have gone cold turkey off lower doses of diaz than that and the real WD symptoms kick in on day 10 for me and then it is a trip to hell. That is why I prefer xanax, you know when you are addicted. Everyone is different but try 2 weeks off the benzos and see where you are.
 
Thanks for the heads up.

If my GP gave me 100x 5mg diazepam and instructed me to take 2 every morning with 2 repeats left on the script, will I have to wait 50 days for the next script?
 
speaking of diaz, i cant seem to get my 5mg teva's to dissolve sublingually very well. it takes forever, should i crush them and it the powder under the tongue?
 
I asked a pharmacist that question and he said crushing it wouldn't be as effective, something to do with the coating.
 
Ive started getting 'kalrma' alprazolam and they really seen to taste a bit better.
Not much cheaper than xanax though.
 
Currently on 1mg alprazolam short term with a follow up, for the purpose of anxiety/sleep issues so take 1 at night.

I've got a tolerance so it's not doing anything! 5mg valiums do nothing either, temazepam is much the same.... What are my options? Should I go for oxazepam? The Doc was open to this idea.

I'm a big bloke, 6ft3 134kg. Seems long term benzo tolerance takes forever to go away! I don't think I'll get 2mg xanax, but I'm fairly sure I'll get 30mg oxazepam's if I ask to switch up.

What are my options, for sleep guys! Nitrazepam? Never had it... I doubt the doc will prescribe this but I can ask I suppose...
 
Alright I've got a question.
Do benzos just relax you?
Is there more to it as far as recreational value goes?
I can understand using it to come down/sleep/stop anxiety but is there some sort of Euphoria or anything along those lines?
 
Valium and xanax relaxes me yeah, Valium in high doses moreso than xanax, but If I'm having a panic attack xanax is where it's at. I always also found xanax good to sleep, apart from recently it seems I have built a tolerance.

It's not like opiates where you have body warmth and feel like butter melting, it's somewhere in between, I just feel light on my feet when sitting down, racing thoughts go away (which really helps with sleep, usually).

So you can sorta just sit there and relax, I wouldn't call benzos overly Euphoric, but I've only ever had Xanax and Valium and Temazepam. Apart from preop meds such as lorazepam (I guess?? who knows)

It's just a feeling of less weight on the body, less anxiety/racing thoughts, ability to calm down (if in a rage or panic attack), etc.

My opinion only, of course. I'm not that big of a benzo head recreationally!

PS: Meth heads should take clonidine to come down instead of xanax, 100/200ug ought to do it, stop wasting your xanax!
 
DeathDomokun said:
Alright I've got a question.
Do benzos just relax you?
Is there more to it as far as recreational value goes?
I can understand using it to come down/sleep/stop anxiety but is there some sort of Euphoria or anything along those lines?
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I like using benzos for rec use, I do have some mild anxiety which may be one reason. I really enjoy the high and to me it is euphoric. I mainly use xanax which gives me mostly a head high with some body relaxation and sometimes decreased motor co-ordination. It's an interesting group of drugs because you feel like a million bucks and don't really realize how loose you are, but others certainly do, lol.
A few times I have come home after a day on the xanax and my mum will ask me the next day wtf drugs I was on. This has only happened with benzos and at the time I feel as though I'm acting completely sober.
 
Stato it sounds like you are in a bit of a tricky situation. Do you have a psychiatrist or psychologist? You might need to look at some other strategies to deal with your anxiety and insomnia.
I'm pretty sure Benzo's are not recommended for long term use for the very reasons you are describing.

I doubt that switching to a different Benzo will help you because you already have the tolerance. Oxazepam is fairly weak and if 1mg of Xanax does nothing I'm guessing 30mg of Oxazepam will be about the same. Also it takes much longer to take effect. Nitrazepam is really good for knocking you out but what are you going to do when you get tolerant to that?

I know it will be very difficult for you to deal with the insomnia without drugs in the short term but if I were you I would try and keep the Benzo's only for when you are having a panic attack or the anxiety gets really bad. Otherwise you are going to have the same problems you are having now with the added drama of not being able to stop the Benzos.
 
Seroquel works really well for sleep. I'd doubt you'd be able to stay awake on it, It's an anti psychotic. Although you can get food cravings and it gives you a bit of a hangover in the morning.
 
Xanax/alprazolam is just great for making me feel more comfortable in any situation. Work, social, home alone, whatever. I guess any benzo is like that... just makes me more comfortable in my own skin. I guess I probably have mild anxiety issues too.

Sometimes they can make you a little too comfortable though. Back on mothers day it was also my mums birthday so couldnt get out of a sunday dinner with her, my auntie and a dude who my mum is seeing (who I dont know that well). Well earlier that day I got a temazepam script for "sleep". I got home from the chemist and had 3 to relax (30mg)... then decided to cwe some codeine and watch a movie and chase that codeine with another 5 temaz (just cos' "why not? right? what the fuck, hell yeah gonna be a fun day", lol) then obviously feeling really fucking good after a few scotches too before going out dinner I decided to have another 4.

Pretty stupid and way more indulgent than I usually am, but I guess I was just feeling too awesome and my decision making was impaired, and was probably not looking forward to the dinner much. Well the night is just a fucking blur. BARELY remember a thing other than being an epic smart ass saying ridiculous shit that might have been funny if I had some accomplices but I was just amusing myself I guess. Anyway the discomfort of waking up the next morning being confused as fuck made the whole thing not worth it.

Im sure I made a dick of myself. I blame temazepam though... its so hard to judge because it feel so subtle when you only have small amount, but it can definitely be a fun benzo if you have enough.
 
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Stato it sounds like you are in a bit of a tricky situation. Do you have a psychiatrist or psychologist? You might need to look at some other strategies to deal with your anxiety and insomnia.
I'm pretty sure Benzo's are not recommended for long term use for the very reasons you are describing.

I doubt that switching to a different Benzo will help you because you already have the tolerance. Oxazepam is fairly weak and if 1mg of Xanax does nothing I'm guessing 30mg of Oxazepam will be about the same. Also it takes much longer to take effect. Nitrazepam is really good for knocking you out but what are you going to do when you get tolerant to that?

I know it will be very difficult for you to deal with the insomnia without drugs in the short term but if I were you I would try and keep the Benzo's only for when you are having a panic attack or the anxiety gets really bad. Otherwise you are going to have the same problems you are having now with the added drama of not being able to stop the Benzos.
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I had a psychiatrist he recommended me off all drugs, and referred me to a drug Councillor , I told him to get fucked.

My GP understands and has prescribed me valium/xanax, and a 7 day 1mg script just to get me through court and bad sleeping patterns... but I'm tolerant...

I have compiled a list of the benzos/Z-Drugs and clonidine which I find effective for sedation. Seroquel Is on that list too, except I'm trying to lose weight so it's at the very back lol.

I don't need or want to maliciously convince my GP, but it seems no matter how much exercise i get, no matter cutting the caffeine and sugar, no matter taking 2mg xanax... cant sleep.

(we're talking I now wake up at 4-10pm and sleep at 9am)
 
If your GP is ok about it maybe you could ask that he prescribe you a higher dose for the short term to get you through the stressfull time. Let him know about your tolerance- that would probably be what he's trying to prevent but if you already have it you already have it. You might have to taper off afterwards though.

I would recommend at least giving a Counsellor a try some of them are ok, same goes for Psychiatrists but the ratio of cool ones to uptight ones is not so good, also its a bit hard to pick and choose. Counsellors are much easier to swap if you dont like them...
 
Stato said:
I had a psychiatrist he recommended me off all drugs, and referred me to a drug Councillor , I told him to get fucked.

My GP understands and has prescribed me valium/xanax, and a 7 day 1mg script just to get me through court and bad sleeping patterns... but I'm tolerant...

I have compiled a list of the benzos/Z-Drugs and clonidine which I find effective for sedation. Seroquel Is on that list too, except I'm trying to lose weight so it's at the very back lol.

I don't need or want to maliciously convince my GP, but it seems no matter how much exercise i get, no matter cutting the caffeine and sugar, no matter taking 2mg xanax... cant sleep.

(we're talking I now wake up at 4-10pm and sleep at 9am)
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If 2mg xanax doesnt get you to sleep this probably wont help, but you should give it a go anyway. Have you ever tried melatonin? Ive found it to be pretty effective. Not the bullshit homeopathic crap you find in Oz stores but the real stuff. Its usually sold in 3mg capsules but I buy from a US health/vitamin website that has a triple strength melatonin, 10mg, that they sell. Its a legit site so I see no problem with telling you to PM me if you want to know the name of the website.

Combining melatonin with 5-htp, Ive found to be just as effective as other sleeping pills without the hangover. But fuck if 2mg xanax isnt helping you sleep then you might need some super strong shit. Is it possible to get ambien in Australia? I dont know anything about it other than what Ive heard about celebrities and people in the states taking it.
 
Wasnt saying it was. Just an option if you have a serious benzo tolerance. I do agree though... if 2mg alpraz isnt getting ya to sleep melatonin probably wont.
 
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