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The Benzodiazepine Thread v. IV

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Xanax and Stillnox are s8's. So they are regulated. Plus both (xanax more so) can used for recreation and are sold Illicitly.

Temazepam and valium, no so much.

A question for regular benzo users. Do you find the day you wake up after taking, you generally have a floaty day? A lot of things don't concern you that usually do?

If your still drowsy - You don't have a dependence

If you can relate - Then you probably do

They say it takes 4 years to come off benzoes....
 
A question for regular benzo users. Do you find the day you wake up after taking, you generally have a floaty day? A lot of things don't concern you that usually do?

If your still drowsy - You don't have a dependence

If you can relate - Then you probably do

I think that's a pretty common side effect, I've been through shit lately an have a few diazepam hanging round for when it all gets too much for me.

I'm floating today.

But now I think about it, I've never really felt tired off benzos the next day, lots of my mate winge about it, while I fucking love having a floaty, relaxed, 'don't give a fuck' kind of day.

The only time I get real tired is when I mix them with other shit, or take too much.
 
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yatch101 said:
Xanax and Stillnox are s8's. So they are regulated. Plus both (xanax more so) can used for recreation and are sold Illicitly.

That is very incorrect. The only benzodiazepine that is S8 is flunitrazepam (Rohypnol) due to concerns about the date-rape potential of the drug.

Some states treat benzodiazepines in a similar fashion to S8 drugs when they are dispensed in a pharmacy in relation to record keeping. I know NSW does this and I know QLD doesn't.
 
That is very incorrect. The only benzodiazepine that is S8 is flunitrazepam (Rohypnol) due to concerns about the date-rape potential of the drug.

Some states treat benzodiazepines in a similar fashion to S8 drugs when they are dispensed in a pharmacy in relation to record keeping. I know NSW does this and I know QLD doesn't.

True, I stand corrected!
 
Well yeah valium has a pretty long half-life so you should feel its anti-anxietal properties into the next day. Xanax not so much... one of the reasons its so potent is due to its extremely short onset and half-life. That said I often feel a sort of pleasurable hangover the next day after a couple mgs if its my first time taking it after a fairly solid break.

Regarding tolerance, although its true that it seems to build up fairly quickly (especially with alprazolam) Ive noticed that taking small amounts that are presumably within the bounds of your tolerance can still be worthwhile. For example, after taking 1 or 2mg a day for a couple weeks in min 1mg doses I get to the point where taking a single dose of 1mg no longer has the same euphoric effects and the feeling of it in my system is much less apparent. However Im noticed that even taking a dose of 0.5mg would still have anti-anxietal effects and subtly nudges my mood in a positive direction. So its still absolutely worthwhile taking these smaller doses during periods of tolerance, IMO.
 
So I know some people sorta poo poo temazepam as being kinda weak and boring. I place myself in that camp to be honest. I managed to get myself a script of 25 on the weekend and decided to follow up a codeine session (watching a long movie) with 50mg (5 pills)... actually before that I had 3 to chill. So another 5 with the movie and later that night I had to go to dinner with my mum and her boyfriend for mothers day (not to mention it was her birthday too so there was no getting out of it). The thing is I wasnt really looking forward to as it was just gonna be the 3 of us this year and although I get along well enough with her boyfriend he gets on my nerves a bit. He in sales and I find his constant pandering to everyone else really fucking grating. Its like fuck mate just be your fucking self and lets talk some shit or make some jokes.

Anyway I wasnt looking forward to it so I dropped another 4 temaz on the way. That made 120mg for the day. Although my benzo tolerance is kinda up there (aplraz mostly) combined with the couple of scotches I had at home then at dinner I kinda found myself 3/4 the way up benzo street and talking enough shit to fill a sewage plant. Now Im a pretty witty guy (if I do say so myself) and when Im on a roll my filter just disappears and whatever I find will amuse myself usually just pops out. If I had a buddy or two there I know Id be getting rad laughs... I just know it (really, *I hope), but being the only one (my aunt showed up luckily) all I did was make a fool out of myself.

I think. I cant remember the entire the fucking evening. It was like a weird dream where I took a back seat to myself and just watched myself go.... except it wasnt the backseat of a sedan, rather the back seat of a Greyhound bus.

I woke up the next day confused as a rabbit not knowing who/what/where the fuck I was, who I was & what happened the night before. It TRULY felt like a dream that I had had. Anyway, would have been fine but the company I was with were "grown-ups" (you know what I mean.... Im 30 but dont consider myself a grown up... fuck that :p), so consequently the waves of anxiety hit like a tonne of fucking bricks. Had I been with a group of buddies or even alone watching a movie or gaming or something all would have been good. But that feeling of total discombobulation and confusion and fear and embarrassment was just almost unbearable. Then I had to work at 2 that day.... it would have been fine if I could have got up had a coffee and hit work but no I had to wait the fuck around all day freaking out THEN go to work.

The worst thing was yesterday when I had eventually started to put the thing behind me mum tells me that I was really out of line on sunday night and I came across quite drunk and that my auntie wasnt impressed at my one-liners pertaining to my cousin (her daughter) who sustained a head injury after being in a hit and run a couple of years ago. That just really wrecked me. For one I was adamant to mum that I wasnt drunk, however that said I couldnt remember what I said to my auntie, and yeah Ill totally apologise but fuck what did I say!?

Point of the story? Nothing really. Just another respect the benzos anecdote. And more specifically temazepam can be some fun you just need high doses, which I guess the majority of people in this thread kinda realise anyway.

Actually the main point to the story is dont abuse benzos out at dinner with your straight edged family!! Stlight abuse yeah, but keep shit within the bounds of your tolerance. 20-30mg diazepam, or 2-4mg alpraz and I would have been fine.

Just be smart people!
 
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^ I had a bit of a laugh at your story, but only because I have been there myself and have made a right fool out of myself sometimes in similar situations. :\
 
hehe thanks mate. The problem was... well, the anxiety filled bricks that landed on my head (just after I got back into bed after taking a piss at about 6am Monday morning) had to with the company at dinner and my family's absolute ignorance to the fact that I like to abuse the occasional benzo (Im sure theyve have inklings of drug use... they always do right?) Im starting to think honestly really is the best policy I think.... at least if shit is out in the open you can get up and say "yeah sorry guys I fucked up" blah blah blah.

But yeah although benzos can be brilliant at making awkward family gatherings tolerable there is a fine line:! hehehe


But hey... final word on the matter.... because benzos can be fun. BOOOOOY was I feeling good in the car on the way to dinner. Reminded me of backing in the day rolling hard, feeling like a million bux at like 4am after a night on the pills, then dropping in the car on the way to the next club or heading into the city..... Thats what its all about baby.%)
 
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I get this too, most notably with clonazepam but also with other benzos (diazepam, alprazolam). I used to sweat a lot when I was dosing 32mg buprenorphine daily and obviously when hanging out and Rivotril is always a godsend in these instances. As for why, I've always been curious too.
 
Not sure, a quick Google search turns up sources mainly talking about benzodiazepines reducing hyperhidrosis when it is caused by stress.

As for the feeling of warmth; I believe it is due to a mechanism similar to that of alcohol. That is, they peripheral vasodilation which brings warm blood to the skin. The net effect of this though is that your core body temperature is actually reduced. You just feel warmer.
 
Woah, just returned from my new GP with 100x 5mg diazepams with 4 repeats and he said come back if it's not working and we'll put you on unlimited Xanax and I quote "once you're on it you're not getting off it". I gotta be careful.
 
That sounds extremely irresponsible of the GP. Prescribing an unlimited quantity of a highly addictive substance...
 
Man my docs have put me through heaps of shit before even thinking about re-prescribing benzos to me.
I've seen a psychologist last month for my anxiety, she said if I think I need them then just ask, i asked my doc who referred me to her, he told me that he wouldent presribe them for me again untill I've seen the psychologist again, then he said I would see a panel of people (dunno if there docs or psychs).

Fucking over this shit, every day around lunch time the butterflies hit, and it's all down hill from there. I've decided to take on alcohol again as my daily med, still doesent work as good.
 
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Man my docs have put me through heaps of shit before even thinking about re-prescribing benzos to me.
I've seen a psychologist last month for my anxiety, she said if I think I need them then just ask, i asked my doc who referred me to her, he told me that he wouldent presribe them for me again untill I've seen the psychologist again, then he said I would see a panel of people (dunno if there docs or psychs).

Fucking over this shit, every day around lunch time the butterflies hit, and it's all down hill from there. I've decided to take on alcohol again as my daily med, still doesent work as good.

Switch doctors? Problem solved. F*k becoming an alcoholic just because of someone else :S
 
^ yeah good point, this will be my third doctor Ive seen to get help, seems like he's just drawing it out.

I am starting to slip into the 5-8 beers a night category, most of them are around 6-8%, which isn't good, got bad livers in my family too, old man died not long ago because of lymphoma that fucked his liver.

It's his b-day today so happy b-day old man.
 
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Man my docs have put me through heaps of shit before even thinking about re-prescribing benzos to me.
I've seen a psychologist last month for my anxiety, she said if I think I need them then just ask, i asked my doc who referred me to her, he told me that he wouldent presribe them for me again untill I've seen the psychologist again, then he said I would see a panel of people (dunno if there docs or psychs).

Fucking over this shit, every day around lunch time the butterflies hit, and it's all down hill from there. I've decided to take on alcohol again as my daily med, still doesent work as good.

So your not drinking in the day time?

Back in the day I was sipping straight vodka before work and during my break so I could feel normal and go about shit with no anxiety. That was not sustainable as after a while I could feel the damage the corrosive ethanol had on my organs.

My anxiety is relative to my pot intake to a extent are you on the buds?

In other news I was doing 5-10mg of Valium for 7 months straight and then my supply ran dry. Stopped doing them about 2 months ago and I got ZERO withdraws %) Not sure how that happened?.... I mean not even minor insomnia!

Ehh it's been a while since I popped a benzo ... How I miss em.
 
To be honest 5-10mg of diazepam is very mild in terms of benzo intake, that said after 8 months straight its definately odd you got away with no withdrawal symptoms whatsoever. Seems you caught a bit of a lucky break.
 
Yeah 5-10mg isnt so bad. I remember having diazepam daily last year though and getting blurry vision and other not too serious withdrawals. Was probably taking maybe 10-20mg a day.

What benzo do you guys think is the safest to take over a long term period? I mean safest as fas least issues with withdrawal and rebound anxiety? Clearly alprazolam isnt the answer. Something like lorazepam or even a small amount of diazepam like 8ft-sativa as doing? I enjoy having a benzo on hand to have on a frequent basis but lately the rebound shit from that being alprazolam has just been too taxing. Im pretty good with cutting my usage down to halves (0.5mg) once my supply is running short, but still I really cant stand the few days to a week immediately after running out.
 
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