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The Benzodiazepine Thread v. IV

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Would anyone know what benzo or opiate I have on me, it's a flat white pill with 30 written on it in small writing and the other side just has a score down the middle?
 
My best guess is that it would be oxazepam as that is the only benzo I am aware of that comes in 30mg in Aus, however I have never used oxazepam and cannot definitively comment on it.
 
I have raised my daily Valium dose from 5mg to 20mg after being scripted dexies about a month ago, I took more Valium initially because I confused my (quite bad) daily anxiety with the combined effect of a)starting a new job, b)new workers, c)anxiety exacerbated by introducing a stimulant to an already anxious person. After a month working there and maintaining the same level of dexies daily, I find my anxiety has gone down a lot and I want to go back to 5mg divided in two doses as before 2.5 morning and 2.5 lunchtime but now when I skip doses after work like right now 6:30pm I only had 5mg divided in two doses and I am feeling withdraws and mild panic attacks.


Fun times ahead 8o
 
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Ah cool no probs sorry for asking. was more for a dosing equivalent as I don't wanna take something I don't kno. But I guess 30mg (if that's what it is) shouldn't do too much damage if I try just one, google didn't turn up much the other pills are more identifiable. All I kno is they are like xannys.
 
Cheers brah had a look still no luck, must be some generic aye? I'll hold onto them until I find out what they are, I'll just stick to my oxys tonite :) :)
 
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I'll tell you what it takes to get benzos. I decided to check out on this forum to get a better understanding why it's so hard for doctors to prescribe them and seeing now that some people take upwards of 100mg valium per day just for the fun of it... holly crap, no wonder. I've been registered on this website for some 10 years, which was back in my late teens when I was doing party drugs for a short period so I have a pretty open mind about that.

I have bipolar disorder and I'm on regular meds (Lithium). I still get breakthrough manias which are treated with antipsychotics. I've used to take antidepressants (SSRIs and SNRIs) but they always sent me into mania within 2-6 weeks which is NOT COOL. So I can't take that. I've been doing really well in the last couple of months and my last episode was manic. But since the winter is coming and the days are getting darker I started feeling pulled down. Over the years I managed to deal with the depression part quite well actually and I don't mind staying in low energy/mood states for a while because I know eventually my brain flips the switch and it goes away. But what always gets me is the bloody anxiety... it drives me absolutely nuts and I can't do my work which is really bad as I'm a company director and I have a huge responsibility running the business and I really can't afford long periods of not functioning.

So I'm having this anxiety creeping up on me more and more and I do the regular relaxation stuff, kick caffeine, hot showers, painting etc etc and it keeps getting worse. My work performance goes down and I'm shitting my pants knowing where this is leading. I had two consecutive days where I was sorting out some documentation in front of my computer and I thought I'm about to have a heart attack and I just sat there paralysed for a couple of hours not being able to do anything. So I'm thinking... time to go see my GP to get some Valium. Haven't been sick in quite a while so I rock up to the clinic and while waiting I see this huge red sign with red letters stating they do not prescribe <insert list of all benzos> + <insert list of all sleep medications> + <insert list of all opiate based painkillers>. I'm thinking this is crap but this GP knows me for several years now, knows what I do for living etc. He tells me sorry but no... benzos are not the solution, we don't prescribe them because people abuse them. Advises me to take antipsychotic.

So a bit disappointed and embarrassed I go home and decide to take my antipsychotic. I only have 2 weeks to go to see my psychiatrist so surely I can wait till then. As I feel the sedation of the antipsychotic coming on I'm thinking holly crap I'm all dizzy and I can feel my heart slowing down with this really laboured slow thumping, my chest feels like it's constricting and doom is lurking around the corner and I'm freaking out I'll stop breathing and die in my sleep. Next day I hardly move around the house, can't do squat, anxiety is no better mentally, just my body is ultra sedated and it feels like I'm trapped inside. Two days forward and my husband finds me after returning from work all wriggled up in some weird pose, he realises I haven't eaten or drank in over two days or moved out of bed since the day before and freaks the fuck out. He's considering calling 000 but somehow loads me into the car and takes me to the hospital. And theeeen the doctor says... okay, we think she needs some benzodiazepines. A couple of hours later the paralysis diminishes, I'm talking and I feel like eating some food. I'm mighty pissed off and so is my husband... craploads of time spent in hospital for something that is entirely preventable.

So yeah... they'll rather let you get to the catatonic state then do something about it before that. It will make for an interesting conversation with my GP when they get the hospital discharge papers. And thanks to all the people who really go completely overboard with benzos so that people who need them for genuine reasons can't get them. All the mentals in this world are grateful to you.
 
Had a similar experience mate, zyprexa pushed on me..... Took for 2 days and returned to GP (he didnt even script, just gave a sample box) BET HE KNEW I'd FUCKING HATE IT.

Got put on valium 2x 5mg a day, this helped for manic episodes but i'd have to take so much and I can't do that legally atm because of random drug tests.

Got put on 0.5mg x2 xanax "as needed" and have been stedily taking 1mg a day.

Psych Appt next month, have enough xanax to get me through until then, and hope he re-prescribes because I'm sure I have a tolerance.... And will suffer withdrawals... I had them in gaol and they were the worst.
 
Anyone that is addicted needs to read this:
http://www.benzo.org.uk/manual/

I don't post much any more but I can say that in the past I have been through some pretty rough stuff due to addiction. Throwing benzos in the mix was perhaps the straw that broke the camels back and ultimately they were the sharpest doubled edged sword that I could ever have imagined. More than happy to share if anyone is interested.
 
AlexxRed said:
Anyone that is addicted needs to read this:
http://www.benzo.org.uk/manual/

I don't post much any more but I can say that in the past I have been through some pretty rough stuff due to addiction. Throwing benzos in the mix was perhaps the straw that broke the camels back and ultimately they were the sharpest doubled edged sword that I could ever have imagined. More than happy to share if anyone is interested.
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Hey mate, tried sending you a PM. Your inbox is full.
 
I got a script for Xanax 2mg, 2 repeats and some Stillnox. Lucky score. I'm aiming to get through the xanax within about 10 days so tolerance doesn't build up and then when it's time for the repeat do the same thing. Also getting Valium and Temaze and doing the same thing, i.e binging for a few days straight then waiting for the next script.
 
I've been prescribed Valium for about 6 months now (10mg a day) by a GP. I've since moved to a new city to find that my new GP wouldn't usually prescribe Valium to someone my age but he will just this one time. I know this is a low dose but is the new GP required to presribe me another script to taper off Valium once my current script runs out?
 
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I got a script for Xanax 2mg, 2 repeats and some Stillnox. Lucky score. I'm aiming to get through the xanax within about 10 days so tolerance doesn't build up and then when it's time for the repeat do the same thing. Also getting Valium and Temaze and doing the same thing, i.e binging for a few days straight then waiting for the next script.
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So to avoid addiction to benzos you get scripted 3 different kinds, and consume them as quickly as possible, sounds pretty contradictory to me.


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I've been prescribed Valium for about 6 months now (10mg a day) by a GP. I've since moved to a new city to find that my new GP wouldn't usually prescribe Valium to someone my age but he will just this one time. I know this is a low dose but is the new GP required to presribe me another script to taper off Valium once my current script runs out?
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I am pretty sure they cant just cut you off as they have a duty of care, if however the GP has already given you a taper plan and you want more that could be another story. I suppose you could try argue the taper is too abrupt and *list symptom here*
 
fucking with stillnox, alprazolam, temazepam, and diazepam is more likely than not going to end in bad news. being able to sleep is under rated.
 
The way I see it, is that if I consume each of them within a short while (not combining them), prior to the two weeks it takes the become physically dependent on them, then get the scripts filled again and repeat the process (with a week or two in between of normal sleep), I'll be right. If I report back on here complaining about full blown addiction I'll eat my akubra.
 
You might not become dependent like that. At least not straight away especially if your scripts are limited. But I think you could still build up tolerance and not really get the effects you are looking for from the same dose. I'm pretty sure that you get cross tolerance with all benzos. It's easier said than done but you are better off saving them until you need them instead of bingeing on them all at once.
 
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I've been prescribed Valium for about 6 months now (10mg a day) by a GP. I've since moved to a new city to find that my new GP wouldn't usually prescribe Valium to someone my age but he will just this one time. I know this is a low dose but is the new GP required to presribe me another script to taper off Valium once my current script runs out?
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They can do whatever they want. Jumping off 10mg isn't a huge dose. Some doctors would look at it as no problem.

I'd like to think a good doctor would help you taper off though...even if it's 10mg. To be safe I'd start tapering off the final script your GP gave you.

If you don't taper off, and you have issues when ceasing, just explain that to the new GP and they might prescribe you some lower dose diazepam to taper off (doubt they'd give you any different meds). I'm not really aware of what the common procedure is for someone on such a low dose of diazepam, but I'd guess it has lots to do with how the individual patient goes with it.
 
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The way I see it, is that if I consume each of them within a short while (not combining them), prior to the two weeks it takes the become physically dependent on them, then get the scripts filled again and repeat the process (with a week or two in between of normal sleep), I'll be right. If I report back on here complaining about full blown addiction I'll eat my akubra.
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Maybe the two weeks abstinence will prevent the physical addiction, but I think you'll almost definitely have some psychological stuff.

You might find that the two weeks where you have benzos, everything is fine...you can get everything done. Then those two weeks off you might not be able to get anything done, and be basically useless until the new script comes in.

If another source pops up where you can easily get more benzos in your planned 2-week abstinences, it might be difficult to resist? *shrug* depends how much willpower you have.

Sounds like the kind of thing that you might be able to get sounding reasonable in your brain but in practice it will probably lead to crash and burns.
 
Hi guys

I just registered solely to post this, and you probably won't hear from me again:

I was on prescribed Serepax for three, maybe four years in the 1980s. I found that I had to continually increase the number I was taking to enable me to deal with the pressure I was under. My doctor had absolutely no problem prescribing as many as I liked. I asked her "How many of these can I take?" she asked "How many are you taking?" "About six per day". And she said "Well, more won't help." So I stopped taking them, cold turkey.

And I started on a trip through hell, which I nearly didn't survive, quite a few times. I had two daughters to care for - they were the reason I made it.

I had no idea that what I was doing was incredibly dangerous - we didn't have the internet then.

I won't go through everything, but even some of the purely physical symptoms - metallic taste of water, for God's sake, incredible sensitivity to sunlight - were still with me four years later.

The mental, psychological and social stuff was so much worse, and I believe it took me at least five years to recover.

So by all means get stuck into them for VERY short periods - they are beautiful. But please be incredibly careful.

And if you are curious: I always have some on hand, but I NEVER take them on two consecutive days. I learned that I am dependent that quickly. I will get panic attacks and agoraphobia, nowhere near the completely debilitating withdrawal ones, but certainly enough for me not to be able to go into a shopping centre. That's after one Valium per day, for two days, twenty years after withdrawal.

As for "Which drug is the worst to get off?" my personal hell, and all the research that I have done, says benzos are. And they are way worse than heroin. That's just a short-term minor glitch in comparison. A walk in the park.

If you're interested Shirley McLean went through it too. She wrote a book " I'm dancing as fast as I can". I didn't get to read it until I had been withdrawing for a year - then I understood what was happening to me.

Over and out.
 
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