The 6-APB thread (Part 2)

[zamzams]

Was your sample one of the offical doses?

yes i believe it was. he had the same as me except he got more

oh well, still liking my dose though, would have preferred to have done 60~70mg though.

 

[zamzams]

My clear pellet with the red baggy arrived a couple of days ago, I'll let you know how it turned out.

welcome! please do.

 

[Juice23]

mugabe - postman still delivering meph - saweeeeeeeettttttttttt

x2, im so fucking jealous!

 

[olieroliepolie]

every one to there own but seriously peeps sticking needles in your arms and dosing via your bumhole sounds very extreme, do people relize the dangers of digging, just as an example a guy i grew up with lost his leg due to injecting himself!!!

p.s.... if authorities are reading this thread and see people commenting on injecting ones self with needles is only going to speed up the ban process imho

 

[wee beefy]

ok, thanks mugabe, i might plug it instead. see where that gets me... has anyone else tried this ROA yet?

c'mon its an out hole not an in hole

 

[olieroliepolie]

c'mon its an out hole not an in hole

hehehe

 

[love_sex_desire]

^^ olieroliepolie: People inject drugs. Now if someone decides they want to, regardless of whether it is a new drug, an illegal drug, or heroin, you can ask questions on bluelight about how to inject said drug as safe as possible. That is the purpose of the site. It's not here to try and keep the UK's up and coming "plant feeds" legal for an extra minute. And plugging is simply a more efficient route of administration. More of the chemical is absorbed, so less material is needed and you bypass the GI tract which reduces or eliminates nausea. Some people get very nauseous, so in the spirit of harm reduction there are many members and even an entire thread dedicated to helping people plug safe and properly. The same for those who want to inject safe and properly.

Injecting can be the safest way to use a drug if you inject properly and have a pure chemical. Snorting will always do damage to your nose, smoking will always damage your lungs so the safest way to use drugs is either orally or intravenously. Not necessarily that hardcore. You just need to get valuable information from a site like bluelight and do your research to be able to minimize the risks associated with all aspects of drug use. Bluelight is here to minimize the risks associated with drug use! That is all.

Carry on.

 

[olieroliepolie]

^^ olieroliepolie: People inject drugs. Now if someone decides they want to, regardless of whether it is a new drug, an illegal drug, or heroin, you can ask questions on bluelight about how to inject said drug as safe as possible. That is the purpose of the site. It's not here to try and keep the UK's up and coming "plant feeds" legal for an extra minute. And plugging is simply a more efficient route of administration. More of the chemical is absorbed, so less material is needed and you bypass the GI tract which reduces or eliminates nausea. Some people get very nauseous, so in the spirit of harm reduction there are many members and even an entire thread dedicated to helping people plug safe and properly. The same for those who want to inject safe and properly.

Injecting can be the safest way to use a drug if you inject properly and have a pure chemical. Snorting will always do damage to your nose, smoking will always damage your lungs so the safest way to use drugs is either orally or intravenously. Not necessarily that hardcore. You just need to get valuable information from a site like bluelight to be able to minimize the risks associated with all aspects of drug use.


Carry on.

I see what your saying love, i am not preaching , who are we to judge?, just commenting on the dangers involved. I would hate to see anybody including a complete stranger get into difficulties due to injecting themselves. I have seen the dangers first hand...plus i hope people wont inject a substance HOPING it is 6-apdb and only finding out to late that it is a completely different chem

 

[olieroliepolie]

You're a moron. Even in samples where THC is the only cannabinoid neither subjective intensity nor potency of cannabis samples is solely proportional to THC content. Why else would GW pharma go through all of the trouble to patent terpene and cannabinoid combinations for its medicines? For example, they have identified the terpenes present in skunk 1 and original haze. Although THC is the only real cannabinoid present in either line, they're planning to offer them as two separate products. If you were to ever smoke a standardized concentration of 10% THC to 90% inert material, you'd be surprised at how weak it is, compared to many herbal cannabis samples. Herbal cannabis has been shown scientifically to not only produce effects more intense than its THC level can account for, but also possess increased efficacy for medical applications. I highly doubt that you could honestly pick out which plant had the highest THC quantity out of blindly sampling material from truly diverse origins. Beta-caryophyllene is one such terpene present in pretty much all drug cannabis samples to varying degrees and functions as a CB2 agonist. CB2 agonists certainly modify the psychoactive effects of CB1 agonists and this is just scratching the surface of this area of study.

Turning Machine why would you start off calling someone a moron for airing there views. I agree that the poster is wrong also ..though i think personal insults look bad against you while the posters only crime is he is or has been misinformed. Reading through this thread i have noticed lots of insults being bandied about which is a shame as it detracts from the threads original purpose.

ps.. excellently explained btw

 

[love_sex_desire]

^^ That's true, and that is why this is an open forum where everyone can express their opinions. By adding your own concern about people injecting something that "might" be 6-APB you are now adding to the data that people will take into consideration when researching and deciding how to use 6-APB.

Of course people do come on here saying pretty irresponsible stuff about slamming random branded research chemicals without knowing what the actual chemical is, but at the same time there are people like you who will point out the irresponsibility, and there are people that will lend advice on how to inject/use as safely as possible if someone is absolutely set on injecting/using something.

You will notice that the main purpose that emenates throughout bluelight, well especially in Psychedelic Drugs, is harm reduction first and foremost. Also accurate descriptions of what people have done, regardless of whether it is responsible, or in the spirit of harm reduction, is often touted around here. This adds to the body of knowledge regarding a drug and if we know how irresponsible some can be and how extreme the effects are because of their irresponsibility, we are adding knowledge about many drugs, most of which have rarely been used and have little information on them.

Accurate descriptions are key, documenting how a drug is used adds to the body of knowledge of many of these untested drugs, and asking for advice from any of the many brilliant bluelighters out there all adds to the rsponsible use of drugs. Even if we need to hear some accurate accounts of irresponsible use to understand how to use responsibly, it's all about facts and compiling knowledge on these exciting compounds.

I understand your concern over reports of irresponsible use leading to quicker banning of new drugs, but believe me... Tobacco and alcohol doesn't cut it! Man will always persue ways of altering consciousness as we have for hundreds of thousands of years without prohibition. With the banning of the cathinones, the UK is now seeing the dangerous combinations and random new unidentified chemicals being passed off with branded names. In may cases mephedrone would be less riky. Members of the UK's independent scientific researchers are resigning by the way inependent research is discredited unless it fits within gvernment agendas and is showing how current drug legislation DOESN'T WORK and causes more harm for society! When regarding humanity as a whole, drugs are a part of our makeup, our identity, our spirituality, going back throughout all civilization, so the "war on drugs" is has always been coming to an end. It was designed to fail. Oh wait it's over. Drugs won.

So don't worry about the banning of 6-APB due to some reported use of someone injecting it on bluelight. Soon enough after the UK has banned many generations of research chemicals there will be some highly toxic ones, much more harmful than the ones we have now that will actually deserve the widespread propagandist sensationalism propagated by "The Sun". Eventually governments are going to have to come to gips that humans have and will always want to explore their consciousness and will simply produce new chemicals. If chemicals continue to be banned, untested and of potentially high risk drugs will continue to take their place, getting worse and worse. Government will have to recognize this and allow us to legally use chemicals that have shown to be of relative low risk, unlike brand new research chemicals with no history of human use. The bubble will burst soon! So don't worry about people talking about irresponsible using drugs on bluelight. At least we can give them advice, unlike the vendors selling the shit because that would implicate them for knowing that their products were being sold for consumption!!!!!

Drug laws are a joke when we have chemistry that create unfathomable amounts of psychoactive chemicals. In Canada all amphetamines are illegal under an analog act, yet ephedrine is still approved by Health Canada, so Health Canada is breaking the law! Such is the reality of many blanket bans and attempts to control all drugs. It just doesn't work. It's full of cotradictions. Bluelight is not to be feared! Bluelight is the future.

 

[olieroliepolie]

lol.. most eloquently put mr love

I have to agree with you wholeheartedly on the matter of the human physche and its need to explore itself. As a teenager i took a whole range of substances and looking back now i have to admit Psychedelic's made me the man i am today......

.....paranoia , the need to shout out random things ,slurred speech, forgetfullness plus the inability to maintain an erection for more than 3 seconds and so on ...lmfao... no just jesting

 

[zamzams]

enjoyed yesterday a lot, back at baseline now this morning with a little afterglow and apart from having a clearout this morning following a lovely deep sleep (got to sleep by 2am in the end) feel fine.
ps the reason i plugged this to those in awe was because i had so little. Yet this was (just) enough to keep me over the threshold. It is fairly potent esp compared to MDMA . more on par with MDA.

 

[zekk]

I took my sample yesterday evening after a night out drinking. I know I said don't do it after drinking, but decisions are impared when alcohol has been consumed.

I only received 65mg and the capsule was also destroyed. I took the 65mg washed down with some water. It tasted the same as last time so I had a good idea that it was actually 6-APB.

It was a very enjoyable experience once more, it was a lot milder at 65mg than my previous 100mg doses. I avoided the vomiting this time too. Was still feeling it quite nicely at 9:30 am this morning which was about 6 hours since I dosed.

The postman arrived with some mephedrone this morning too so I had a bomb and a line of mephedrone whilst still being quite fucked on the 6-APB. The combination was really great. Euphoria was amazing. I can imagine taking some mephedrone with it again in the future.

Have just been caning the mephedrone since then.

Really i thought this stuff was no longer shipped to UK residents.??

 

[THCDunc]

Really i thought this stuff was no longer shipped to UK residents.??

Just because somethings illegal doesn't mean you can' get it anymore. Plenty of people are still importing mephedrone into the UK.

 

[jpcardiff]

Scooby didnt you mean "sheep shaggers" !!

More bollocks still in this thread.

Great post Turing - agree 100%

Most the "bollocks" in this thread is from you 2 idiots and your wild speculations born out of anger cos you were taken for mugs by the most obvious scam. In your case you were so stupid you fell for the same trick twice even after your little hissy fit!

In the meantime do yourself a favour and pipe down

 

[Kirix]

welcome! please do.

Ok so my first impressions from the reports on these Bluelight threads was that the 6-apb pill wasn't having an effect because most of you are more experienced than me with drugs and that the individuals with pill reports were affected by habitual use of MDMA and the affect it has on serotonin emitters in the brain (sorry not trying to be unkind or pretentious, it was my honest thought on the matter).

So I took the pill this afternoon with these thoughts in mind and to be honest I just felt kind of hot and itchy, with a little bit of elevated perception in addition to a headache. I heard that taking more of the substance than I took (1 "pellet") would have a more profound effect but I don't really see it. For me, it was like the initial stages of an allergic reaction (breaking out in hives or itchy skin) with a noticeable feeling of heightened awareness mixed with discomfort.

So from this experience I'm not feeling too comfortable with the idea of "research chemicals" as this is my first one, and it wasn't what I was expecting to be an MDMA clone or anything.

So in conclusion, you guys are either right about these batches being tainted or the chemical didn't have the ideal effect on my body. So anyway, good luck to you guys, imma try to get this headache out of my brain with some Ibuprofen and maybe some alcohol (lol).

 

[love_sex_desire]

^^ Those clear gels in a red baggie have already been confirmed bunk.

People with vast experience with other drugs have had great experiences with the samples sent out from the "official" vendors.

I wouldn't rule out 6-APB being a good drug based on your first experience with your pill that was almost guaranteed to not contain any 6-APB whatsoever.

Just wait until August 1st, until then, the only relevant posts are from those who have received real samples.

 

[chronic bubonic]

Probably because most of the people who rushed out to buy dubious capsules from blatantly dodgy vendors are idiots in the first place. However i'm surprised no one tried the crystal, as least it HAS an NMR which suggests it is infact the chemical. No one has suggested any evidence that the impurities may be dangerous so at the very least an allergy test would be ok i suspect. I mean, there's people on this board who bought brown MDAI which looked like a horribly botched synth and took it regardless.

At least it HAS an NMR which suggests in fact it is A chemical

 

[chronic bubonic]

I have to disagree with Psychonautical regarding weed strains, if you smoke an indica like white widow and compare it to a sativa like a budda cheese and you get two totally different highs .

Absolutely... tho both strains you mention have both indica and sativa genes but to different extents. They're still discovering the varying properties of cannabis... it is probably gods gift to humankind, there are more variations of active constituents in cannabis then there are Heinz varieties, the seeds produce a very healthy oil, and are potentially far more cost efficient/effective to produce than rapeseed/sunflower etc.

without hemp the world would never have been explored and maps would never have been drawn, referring to hemp rope and paper. apparently hemp/cannabis is a fantastic plant to grow in a crop rotation because it cleanses the soil.

a few years back when i had a cupboard, i was growing some weed and a couple of plants that wouldn't fit were placed on the windowsill next to the cat basket, the cat was very content and the plants ended up just bare stems and i trust my cat!!

Cmon folks, lets get back to nature, grow your own dope and poppies and harvest plentiful supplies of mushrooms cum sep/oct, gotta be a better option than relying on some dodgy Chinese lab (I've been to China - I know they make a lot of the worlds shit, but the illegal or counterfeit stuff they sell in the country to tourists is appalling quality, and without official control why should Chinese made RCs be any different?) ....

 

[Psychonautical]

my whole thing is if you smoke a lot of high quality grade marijuana.
which i do. all the time.
it gets really hard to tell different strains of weed apart
all i know is. the switch has been click the toggle that weed flutters in my brain is now active
Sanity remains