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The 3-FMC/4-FMC (Flephedrone) Megathread

'Xaeniamana'? :)

No worries Shambles. I'm not excessing with this particular packet as I'm getting virtually zero negative side-effects. It's just helping time tick over that little bit quicker at work, thank god.

For me, Charge is weaker than meph, (would love to have the pure stuff though to determine how much it's being cut and whether it actually is weaker as I've never taken as large a dose), but it seems to have a lower effects-threshold. A line of meph didn't do much, but a greater amount did a lot. A gram of meph is gone pretty much straight away, but with Charge (which we always cut with Raz or something) there's always some left for the next day. It always has a similar strength effect too, killing any comedown/hangover I might be going through. We both seem to get more tolerant to meph, quicker.

Oh, and I can't remember Kid. I only had the one pack and it's long gone. How come you know it's just as safe as the good old fashioned varieties?
 
F&B reckons it's safer than meph, and that's good enough for me!

With Toot, I need 2 chunky lines to kick things off, followed by 2 more about 30-40mins later to get a bit fucked. Then redosing perhaps every hour, or maybe slightly longer.

Most nights i only get through half a g, but a lot of that is because of the natural brake that having a wife and a kiddie has on proceedings and needing to get up at 7am the next day for daddy duties! :)
 
Treacle said:
Christ on a bike! That must have some real comedown to it!
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I don't find the peevee comedown is too bad these days. Although I'm not so keen on the buzz, I find I can eat - even sleep a bit - on the white stuff so there's much less of a crash. Still can be a lil bumpy on the landing but nowhere near as rough as with the tan cos I can't eat at all on that - and can't even get my head around the concept of sleep. Anything beyond rampant perving is pretty much beyond me really :D

It's one thing I'll give the white stuff - feels rougher but seems to actually be easier on the bod somehow. Has many other points that go against it where the tan really stands head and shoulders above it though. For me anyway.

On topic, I've yet to sample fleph but it sounds like the meph replacement I could do with for a stim-fuelled night (MDPV tends to be more a stim-fuelled week ;)). I'm a bit wary of expensive proprietary blends (I may have mentioned that) so would only be interested in pure powder really and that's not so easy to find :\
 
I shall be abstaining from Toot tonight, and just sampling Charge to see if there really is any difference. I think this is much more scientific. I will also be consuming gallons of beer. :)
 
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apology for hijacking thread but an online search is showing loads of other type substances,
/seems to be more appearing every day,anyone know what this is and its effects?

4-FLUROTROPACOCAINE

hmmm,just found a users opinions,sounds pretty rank to me,ah well,:|
 
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sunsetter said:
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apology for hijacking thread but an online search is showing loads of other type substances,
/seems to be more appearing every day,anyone know what this is and its effects?

4-FLUROTROPACOCAINE

hmmm,just found a users opinions,sounds pretty rank to me,ah well,:|
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There's shitloads of newish legal (and illegal) stims about but many seem to come and go pretty quick. That one (or maybe it was one with a very similar name - think there may have been a couple but my memory's shit) was quite popular for a while last year but never tried it myself and seems to have disappeared since meph took off. From what I recall it sounded a lot nicer (and probably less toxic) than meph though.

There's a few threads on it in EADD and other parts of BL if you search :)

Back on topic, let us know the results of your scientific endeavours, Kid. Sounds like a real chore ;)
 
It was very tough, Shammy! But there is zero difference between Toot and Fleph, as far as i'm concerned. Exactly the same effects for me and my mates.

I would say though that my Toot is white whereas the poster who reckoned Toot was Meph said their stuff was not white.
 
^ Very strange. I'd hazard a guess that yours might have been doctored, as i've been buying for quite a few months now and it's always been white and i've always bought direct from the people listed on the package.
 
It may have been. I'm probably gonna give it another go. Did you manage to sample fleph in it's pure form then? And do you still think Toot is more effective than Charge after using more scientific methods?
 
Nah, not had any pure fleph. I didn't think there was any difference between Toot and Charge.
 
So what would be a good price for a gram of pure fleph? (sorry if that is too much price discussion)
 
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