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Heroin Tapering off heroin?

I'm right there with you friend - crying for no reason, and I'm not a sensitive man by any stretch of the imagination

Starting is so easy, and stopping is the hardest thing in the world. I've given up so much to this poison and I'm sure you have too

All we can do is support one another. Stay strong - there's a light at the end of the tunnel. I can still remember being happy without drugs, so I know it still exists...
 
I don't know that I could ever bring myself to actually throw dope out! But maybe that's the answer - maybe once you can, you've truly accomplished something
 
Shadow: I too have been following your progress, and am so relieved you used a "coping skill" i.e. driving around to stave off cravings. Keep up the outstanding work! Just come up with activities to distract yourself, nothing fancy needed, just to take your mind off your feelings for an hour or so. As for how do people deal with depression?
For me, the easiest way is to to help someone else out. I learned that many years ago in the 12 step meetings I attended, and to "be of service" to someone else, is the surest way for me to lift my spirits. I can post on BL with kindness or support; I can go walk with my elderly neighbor who is widowed; I can help out my relatives now and then.
Hang in there!!!
 
I definitely agree with helping someone out to deal with your own problems. I find it's usually easier to help others with their problems, depression, loneliness, etc. than to try and resolve your own issues
 
I'm right there with you friend - crying for no reason, and I'm not a sensitive man by any stretch of the imagination

Starting is so easy, and stopping is the hardest thing in the world. I've given up so much to this poison and I'm sure you have too

All we can do is support one another. Stay strong - there's a light at the end of the tunnel. I can still remember being happy without drugs, so I know it still exists...
I appreciate it man. It's hard to remember those times but they are there. At the same time though i can remember, and do so much easier, good times while using dope so it's difficult. I've got good friends supporting me though so I hope I'll make it through this. If not for them I wouldn't have even made it this far. I planned on using today and if it weren't for them I would have.
 
Personally, I've told myself a thousand times that I'll taper, and do it according to a specific schedule rationing what I have left. By the end of the day (and sometimes the hour), it's all gone. I'm not saying it isn't possible, but I certainly don't have the ability to do it.
 
Yeah, I haven't exactly had any luck with the tapering on heroin either. I can resist doing it all with the subs, but I certainly haven't been able to maintain any set schedule. I just keep hoping it wasn't so easy - that I could just resist making that call. That I have to before I completely lose everything
 
Happy holidays guys hope you feel atleast little better today SS. My 2011 & 12 xmas's were spent vomiting n not being able to eat any of the good food. This year it's better in that sense but still w/ the conflicting thoughts on whether to stay clean n shit. This is the toughest period I.m.o SS w/ the constant changes in thoughts. Tough it out n rest should be easy compared to this.
 
Happy holidays guys hope you feel atleast little better today SS. My 2011 & 12 xmas's were spent vomiting n not being able to eat any of the good food. This year it's better in that sense but still w/ the conflicting thoughts on whether to stay clean n shit. This is the toughest period I.m.o SS w/ the constant changes in thoughts. Tough it out n rest should be easy compared to this.
Happy holidays to you and everyone else as well. This Christmas will be spent depressed and in emotional turmoil still it would seem. Still, I am 97 hours clean. I did get a few hours if sleep also, so that's a Christmas miracle right there.
 
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You only have once choice to experience any semblance of happiness agin.

Begin I.V.ing heroin. My advice would be to double what you usually smoke and to drop between 2-4mg xanax half an hour before.

Let us know how you go.

Best wishes,

SS (medical doctor)
Do you want me to die? That post actually really hurts, not going to lie. What did I ever do to you. :(
 
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I'm literally crying right now and I haven't cried in almost a decade, how do people deal with the depression?
That's just ONE of many, very serious WD symptoms.
My depression was intense, all the songs, and music I like, made me cry, because of the depression.
Every single thought in my head was sad, I had the crying spells. I would literally cry at everything, fir no real reason.
Addiction, is a very serious disease. Lot's of addicts have VERY serious suicidal thoughts, and attempts.
As of today, it'll be impossible for me to live without a super potent and elite opiate.
These are the opiates I consider to be Super potent and elite,

-Methadone
-Fentanyl
-Heroin
-Hydromorphone with Bioavailability of at least 60-80%
-Oxymorphone with bioavailability of at least 60%

Out of those choices, I'd take Methadone in PILL form, not the shitty Liquid bullshit.
My 2nd choice would be Fentanyl gel patch, the smokable version.
3rd choice, Black tar Heroin. Chasing the dragon (smoking on tin foil, with a lighter and straw to inhale the smoke, I'm honestly an EXPERT on chasing the dragon, I literally dont miss ANY of the smoke)
4th choice, Oxymorphone. Snorted!
I'm not a fan of Hydromorphone, because I don't IV.
Oral bioavailability is horrible, snorting is even worse. Plugging Hydromorphone is the Best ROA right behind IV.
 
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Are you guys being serious with these posts??? You're telling this man he needs to start doing opiates again!!!

I'm with you, SS - I'm sitting here miserably depressed trying desperately not to use. Hang in there, you can get through this. It's lonely and painful, but don't let anyone talk you out of it
 
Do you want me to die? That post actually really hurts, not going to lie. What did I ever do to you. :(
Don't listen to that scamming devil.
he's obviously trying to make you take something to hurt yourself.
I see that as common sense really, like wtf? You're trying to get off drugs and he's trying to tell you to make your drug habit worse. Lol. Don't worry about people like that man. They're called dickheads.
 
Are you guys being serious with these posts??? You're telling this man he needs to start doing opiates again!!!

I'm with you, SS - I'm sitting here miserably depressed trying desperately not to use. Hang in there, you can get through this. It's lonely and painful, but don't let anyone talk you out of it
You hang in there too man. My emotions are all over the place but to me it sounded like that guy was more telling me to kill myself than to start using again. I never did anything to him though so I'm not sure why. :(
 
I hope your doing well mate. Merry Christmas and stay strong!
Thanks, I know I'm late but a merry Christmas to you too mate.

Don't listen to that scamming devil.
he's obviously trying to make you take something to hurt yourself.
I see that as common sense really, like wtf? You're trying to get off drugs and he's trying to tell you to make your drug habit worse. Lol. Don't worry about people like that man. They're called dickheads.
I'm usually the kind of guy whose friends insult each other jokingly all the time, and I do the same, but recently with my emotions all wacked out I've been taking everything the wrong way. Maybe he wrote that post in sarcasm, but to me it genuinely sounded like he was telling me to kill myself and it really hurts hearing that.
 
shadow: I am so sorry that post was written here... I can't understand why some people are so negative and hurtful. You don't need that at this time in your recovery, and really, at no time in your life. Just know that many people do genuinely care about you and are sending positive energy your way. You are an inspiration to me, as I am trying desperately to quit my oxycodone habit, and the physical w/d symptoms keep messing me up.
 
Stay strong shadow I've been following your posts and feel for ya. It's not easy but your strength and determination are what I need to read right now I think you are doing great. Keep posting hope you had a good holiday,
Bono
 
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