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Synthetic Opioid Megathread

blondin said:
Im surprised you still get the gel based patches - i thought they had all but been phased out for the clear plaster type ones
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Don't think he does i think it was in relation to Sams post about vaping matrix ones on tin foil .
Not something i ever done , i recently had some 50's n jus did the standard bucall thing .

I wouldn't dream of trying to vape plastic ( correct me if i'm wrong SAm ), the gel onees are perfect for it though.
 
Yeah, they are made of plastic and it isn't the nicest thing for your throat. Although there isn't all that much plastic to deal with - they're really thin, as you know. The trick is to vape them gently until the plastic shrivels and turns brown. Not glamorous at all.

So safety-wise it's dodgy to be inhaling plastic fumes (to say nothing of the fent), though it has the advantage over buccal dosing that you can titrate your dose a little better. You may only need to inhale a tiny bit of smoke from a strip of patch to get where you want, but with buccal dosing it's more all-or-nothing. So perversely, smoking is relatively HR-friendly. With the emphasis on 'relatively'.

It's certainly a lot safer than smoking the gel patches was.
 
SamhainGrim said:
Yeah, they are made of plastic and it isn't the nicest thing for your throat. Although there isn't all that much plastic to deal with - they're really thin, as you know. The trick is to vape them gently until the plastic shrivels and turns brown. Not glamorous at all.

So safety-wise it's dodgy to be inhaling plastic fumes (to say nothing of the fent), though it has the advantage over buccal dosing that you can titrate your dose a little better. You may only need to inhale a tiny bit of smoke from a strip of patch to get where you want, but with buccal dosing it's more all-or-nothing. So perversely, smoking is relatively HR-friendly. With the emphasis on 'relatively'.

It's certainly a lot safer than smoking the gel patches was.
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I get ya ,
Yeah you gotta be so careful with such a strong compound.

Personally if say i had a 50mcg i would cut it in half n use it bucally n then when you get the nod just take it out of yer mouth .
So it's not really all or nothing but the main thing with Fent is to do yer reserch n treat it with the respect it deserves,
Personally just don't like the idea of vaping plastic.
 
last time I did codeine I did about 350mg and it was lovely, although not a touch on ODT which I really hope comes back soon. Would love to be able to get some oxys but not enough to hunt them down to be honest, they sound good though.
 
I'm from the UK and am tapering off valium.
As I am having such a hard time, anxiety and depression wise, for the last six months, I have been using DF118's (dihydrocodeine) a few days on and a few days off. I would also have a line of subutex when I could get it, taking it only 2 days and then off for a few.
I never physically clucked on the days I wasn't using DF118's or subutex.

The days off these drugs started getting awful, anxiety and depression wise, so bad, that I have not used any opiate for 8 days because I am shit scared of how I will feel on the days I am not using.
 
Snorting temgesics is the way forward for enjoyment. My only gripe is if taken late in the day,sleep is impossible,same with tramadol and kratom.

Tramadol is great for work. Taken in the morning before work gives me a thouroughly pleasant day,lightly buzzed,energised and motivated all day long. I even chat to my boss. There is,for me anyway,a definite antidepressant feel to them. When taken in the evening though there can be the odd gouch,but that soon gives way to the more speedy type feel.
 
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I took tramadol once with df118's and I didn't quite like the tramadol feeling in my head.
It was partly physical and partly mental, but I can't quite describe it.
I think it caused me to have some difficulty getting off to sleep.
 
Does anyone else find oxycodone very stimulating. Im an absolute noob at opiates, I thought they would be very sedating, and sleep would be easy. In the last couple of weeks ive tried oxycontin and oxycodone, and I found it harder to get to sleep than if I was on stimulants. The oxycodone came in a bottle, could this be something to with it, or is it just how they are?
 
I'm afraid that's just how it is, Housefever. Quite a lot of people mention that oxycodone is stimulating, although the few times I've had it I've not really noticed it. If sleep is becoming a bit of an issue maybe you could just take it a wee bit earlier than usual? Or maybe play around with the dose, maybe the excessive stimulation could be dose sensitive? I'm not 100% sure about that though, I may be talking shite.

Obviously if you go down the 'stimulation will be solved by some valium' route just remember that opiates and benzos can be a risky venture so keep the doses low :)
 
Thanks for the advice mate. I was pretty exited about getting these opiates, and I was pretty disappointed. It was not what I expected. But lying in bed while on opiates was fucking heavenly, I have never been so comfortable.

Edit. whats the difference between an opiod and an opiate?
 
^^ what doses of oxy were you taking? i found that oxycontin was very stimulating at around 30-40mg but got more sedating with the more i took, 80mg felt like heaven,was hanging outta my window in absolute euphoria!
Also i found that if you snort them the stimulation comes and goes relatively quick so you are left with that nice stoned feeling, eating them after you've crushed em makes the high last longer but you never get the euphoria like you do from snorting them, could just be me though :)
 
Thats why it's got a seperate thread from the Heroin one .
Cos Heroin is an opiate.

Easy way to seperate em is anything from a chemist is Synthetic ( well these days )
 
breakcorefiend said:
^^ what doses of oxy were you taking? i found that oxycontin was very stimulating at around 30-40mg but got more sedating with the more i took, 80mg felt like heaven,was hanging outta my window in absolute euphoria!
Also i found that if you snort them the stimulation comes and goes relatively quick so you are left with that nice stoned feeling, eating them after you've crushed em makes the high last longer but you never get the euphoria like you do from snorting them, could just be me though :)
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I took about 60-70mgs of oxycodone for my first time. It was a bottle of oxynorm. Does it make a difference if it is in liquid form? I was thinking it might have some slow release formula? I felt good, don't get me wrong. I just thought the effects would be stronger. Maybe opis are not for me.

Thanks for the info StoneHappyMonday .
 
Liquid is more desirable than pills mate you got a touch with that . quite a desirable compound for Pharm heads.

You were lucky.

liquids are never slow release they come on quicker a la liquid benzos
 
what mg were the oxynorms? i've had the 20's before and found one snorted and one eaten got me nicely mashed combined with a few beers,spliffs and vallies.

I think if you want a more sedated stoned high from them you will need to add in a benzo or 2

Tbh the best times ive had on oxys were at the tail end of an acid trip, what a heavenly feeling =D

Edit: just realised you were on about liquid, never had access to that unfortunately
 
Sorry BreakCore I had liquid oxycodone. And had 10mg oxycontin, but had a lot of them. It seemed that they gave a better feeling than the oxycodone. I was suprised because I thought oxycontin is slow release?

Does getting the was wax removed take off the slow release, or is it in the pill formula?

Thanks for your help guys.
 
in this country any way .
Things ae hella lot dif . in the states the strongets ir are 30mg although 10's n 20's are the most common n they come in capsules so you can just take out the powder n do as you please with it.

The 80s require scraping n allsorts .
much better off with the 20mg oxynorm caps .
 
HouseFever said:
Does getting the was wax removed take off the slow release, or is it in the pill formula?
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The oxycontin time release is in the pills themselves (both the old ones that we get in the EU and the new formula in the US). That's why the only way to defeat it (with the old formula at least) is to crush the pills.

I also prefer oxynorms to oxycontin, purely for ease of use. It's almost impossible to crush an oxycontin discreetly, whereas oxynorms are pop (or sniff) and go.
 
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