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Synthetic Opioid Megathread

brimz said:
oxy contin is ir .

Oxycodone is not
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The oxycodone solution HouseFever is describing wont be slow release as the main way of making a drug slow/time release is to either have the drug finely mixed with a wax ir similar inert material so that the physical form is slow to break up in the gut (and thereby allowing drug to dissolve, which it needs to do to be absorbed); the other method is to bind it chemically to a substance called an ion exchange resin. Ion exchange resin is encounted in the form of little amber coloured spheres and requires the pH of the inside of the gut to release the drug into solution. Neither form is suitable for using in liquid medical preparations.

These time release preps can be defeated to release the drug: wax matrix forms can be shaken with an organic solvent that will dissolve the wax, leaving the drug behind (used to do this with morphine MST continus by shaking them with hot benzene/toluene, decanting off solvent to leave behind morphine sulphate that was washed with a little isopropanol to remove any remaining benzene, then left for alcohol to evap off to leave dry morphine sulphate powder for one of a myriad of uses!). Ion exchange resins require some sodium hydroxide soln and an understanding of how IERs work.

BTW, one thing that can work, although it's not for the faint hearted, is to collect the urine after ingestion of oxycodone as the pee will contain the glucuronide conjugate metabolite of oxycodone along with some (aprox 10 percent of which will have been metabolized to the oxymorphone glucuronate) - the glucuronates are actually about twice the potency of the free drug. So one evaporates the urine to a small enough volume to enable it to be plugged and gets more stoned than the original drug effects. You could drink it, but that's simply not an option in my book...

Gruesome, but not everything in pharmacology is pretty! =D
 
rikerliker707 said:
Morphine? Codeine?
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Both opiates.

But thanks anyway, youve just reminded me I still got an unopened bottle of Oramorph at the back of the cupboard, exactly what I need today :D

Jesus f&b, cooking down your own urine for plugging??? That's some fuckin dedication to the cause. Serious.
 
rikerliker707 said:
Brimz, all pharms now are synth? Morphine? Codeine?
Also, there is a slow release synthetic opioid liquid but it is only marketed in America. (Tussionex)
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i can assure you in the UK they arent all synthetic, i know for a fact opium is farmed ALOT near me for labs to make morphine and codeine etc
 
fastandbulbous said:
BTW, one thing that can work, although it's not for the faint hearted, is to collect the urine after ingestion of oxycodone as the pee will contain the glucuronide conjugate metabolite of oxycodone along with some (aprox 10 percent of which will have been metabolized to the oxymorphone glucuronate) - the glucuronates are actually about twice the potency of the free drug. So one evaporates the urine to a small enough volume to enable it to be plugged and gets more stoned than the original drug effects. You could drink it, but that's simply not an option in my book...
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F&B, you never cease to amaze us. :)

That's a particularly valuable piece of information for me, and something I dearly wish I'd known about before now.
 
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A couple of things - oxycodone is the synthetic opioid that comes in several forms - oxycontin is a brand name that makes time release oxycodone. There are two things you need to do to break the time release matrix, first scrape off the green (if 80's) covering which is easy to do with a finger nail or with a damp cloth. Next you need to crush the pill either with a mortar and pestle or with two spoons BUT it needs to be crushed in to a fine powder - which can be snorted or eaten - the good thing about oxy is its B/A orally is nearly 90% bout the same up the hooter. I have fixed them but the rush is not as good as H. Now adays Im lazy so after i scape the coating off i just chew them up til its a smooth paste then swig down with water or other liquid- they are good with a blue , no surprise there.
 
Sam are you seriously saying that you have smoked the non gel patches? FFs that's madness not only the plastic but the glue that holds them to the body, there is no way you can vape off purely the fent and not the other stuff. Chewing them and sticking them in yer cheek is very effective and non toxic. Let me ask you this if you had some cellotape with gear stuck to it would you put that on foil?

BTW the urine thing...if you have a night on mDMA and do the same thing about 40% active ingredient is in the pee - just what you need for breakfast after a night of raving, personally I would spend another fiver for a pill : )
 
Yeah, I've smoked the matrix patches. It's not exactly great for your lungs long-term but there's so little plastic involved that it's not all that bad if done occasionally. The plastic tends to shrivel and turn brown long before it actually vaporises.

I much prefer the buzz from smoking fent to the buzz from chewing the patches, so it's worth it as far as I'm concerned. Though I'd advise against doing it regularly. It looks horrible, unsurprisingly.
 
do you think fent is worth messing with? in terms of buzz vs risk?? TBH iv got rid of all my patches now and im glad to see the back of them!
 
You have to be very careful with fent if you are not sticking them on as prescribed. Its one of the most powerful opioids out
there - hence its measured in MCG's not MG's i.e 1000th of a gram. Very easy to OD on if you dont know what yer doing.
 
SamhainGrim said:
Yeah, I've smoked the matrix patches. It's not exactly great for your lungs long-term but there's so little plastic involved that it's not all that bad if done occasionally. The plastic tends to shrivel and turn brown long before it actually vaporises.

I much prefer the buzz from smoking fent to the buzz from chewing the patches, so it's worth it as far as I'm concerned. Though I'd advise against doing it regularly. It looks horrible, unsurprisingly.
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Can you go step by step how you do it as I might give it a go.
 
Pretty straightforward as it happens - you don't need as much foil as you do with heroin since the fent doesn't need to run. I find a small square with a slight indentation (so it's more like a bowl than a tray) works best. Pre-cut your patch into the usual number of pieces / strips, take one of these pieces, remove the backing and stick it to the foil. Put your tooter in your mouth as normal, hold the lighter 1.5" - 2" underneath the foil and gently heat until the patch starts to bubble a bit. Before long the fent will vaporise and some very thick and opaque white smoke will come off. Repeat as necessary until the piece of patch turns brown.

As I say, not ideal in the long term, and the chances of overdose are fairly high if you're reckless. Still, it's a hell of a lot safer than somebody with no tolerance sticking a patch on their skin and proceeding to fall asleep.
 
must apoligise for some of the misleading posts i made earlier in this thread i was on crack cocaine at the time & that's all i'm sayin.
Fortunatley F & B n others were around to clear up the errors i made.
I'm usually pretty good with this type of thing not when on Crack though.

Oh yeah n i agree with you about fixin oxy Blondin waste of time and not worth the hassle , it's not a good drug for fixin at all n doesn't really improve the effects n the rush is negligible.
 
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