Suicide thread, for assitance and support for all things related to suicide

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Not feeling to good thisarvo/tonight. Just been on BL for a couple of hours now, since it always makes me feel better <3. Usually people may notice I reply straight waya. But if not, i'm going out the back to sit at a tiny fire to keep warm, with some red wine, port, just a few temaz and diaz, promethazine, etc. Spose I must admit that I would rather not wake up tomorrow morning, but I guess that probably happens 4 nights a week for me. <3 to all my BL friends.
 
hey, i'm 18, ive attempted suicide about half a year ago, but i've been depressed for about 3 years. Thanks to some members in BL i went to a psychiatrist in my school. I've only had two sessions, but it hasn't helped me at all, maybe even worsened my condition. To be honest all i do is talk with her, but i've been talking with people about my problems since the depression has started and talking about it doesn't make me feel any better. I think about suicide 2-3 times a day, I have panic attack, anxiety problems, ect..

I just want to tell my shrink to give me some drugs. I mean that's all i want, i've tried most the things people have suggested me, reading some books, keeping my self busy, not think about problems ect. I'm convinced that anti depressants or whatever is the only think to help me, but how do I say that to her? I smoke weed, but i don't take any other drugs. Things can't go on like this, no motivation, no concentration, cant give my self any good reason why i should get out of bed in mornings.
 
^ It sounds like you need to more strongly self advocate for the treatment that you desire. If she is a counselor or therapist you need to get her to refer you to a psychiatrist. If she is an actual psychiatrist who is opposed to using drugs in your case, you have to make your needs clear to her or she needs to make clear to you what her reservation is. You may need to find someone else on your own.

Make sure she knows what you you define as your immediate needs and how they are not being met at this time.
 
Been feeling down lately. Massively stressed. Hate work. Been keeping myself isolated. Starting to notice I have been talking to myself more often than usual. Been thinking about finding some H and overdosing(I think it would be quite easy seeing as I have zero tolerence).
 
^ Could you start isolating less? Did the isolation start more with bad feelings about others or bad feelings about self? If thoughts of ODing become to frequent or to serious I really hope you go get some help.
 
Just feel stuck, in a rut you know, and then felt depressed, which lead to less socializing, which lead to isolation, and then started to talk myself more and whatnot.
 
I've only had two sessions, but it hasn't helped me at all, maybe even worsened my condition.

Sometimes when people begin therapy it can actually make their condition worse at first because you're bringing your issues to the surface and forcing yourself to deal with the things that have been making you depressed. It might be worth sticking with the therapy because hopefully over time you will effectively deal with some of the underlying issues making you depressed, and learn coping strategies for when you are actually feeling depressed and anxious. But also, as Enki said, if this particular psychiatrist isn't working well for you then by all means try a different one <3

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i'm going out the back to sit at a tiny fire to keep warm, with some red wine, port, just a few temaz and diaz, promethazine, etc.

Hey mate, sorry to hear you weren't feeling good yesterday :( How are you feeling today?? I also wanted to note something that you're probably well aware of, but the combination of alcohol and benzos would definitely be making your depression worse! It's a really really bad combo for someone who is feeling depressed and suicidal. Have you got a friend or family member that you can talk to about how you're feeling? <3
 
Hello all,

I am a new member here. I was reading through this section and want to be a contributing part of this community so I thought I would register. I want to put myself out there to assist in any way I can. If anyone ever needs to talk, PLEASE PM me and we can start a dialog.

I unfortunately have a lot of experience with suicide, depression anxiety and the contributing factors that lead people down this road. My brother committed suicide last august and the last year has been the worst year of my life. He was severely manic depressive and ADHD. I had gotten to the point with him, after repeatedly butting heads with him that I wanted to disown him as a brother. I have never had severe depression to the point where I have had serious thoughts about taking my own life, but I had talked with him at length and have had many friends who have. I really want to urge anyone who has the feelings to use every source you have to create intimate relationships with anyone and everyone that can provide a shoulder or an ear for you to use. That, in my opinion is the only thing that keeps me going is being able to coherently communicate with people that care about me that know I care about them. Life is hard, by no means is anyone perfect but in dealing with the trivialities and the ups and downs it eventually creates a stronger individual and you are able to find peace with yourself in ways you never dreamed. I have had a lot of co uncling and to deal with the recent losses. And urge anyone and everyone to reach out to me or anyone else. Anyways wish you all a good day, and am glad to be part of this discussion.
 
Hi Chit_Chat, Welcome to BL and TDS:) You might not be aware that you won't be able to PM you back until you reach Bluelighter which will happen within 24hrs of you having 50 posts. You are able to PM mods in case you need help not regular members until BLighter status.
 
Hi All, - I'm just putting this out there for everyone - not anyone in particular. It's probably too wordy, and I apologize for the lack of brevity, but I think that however clumsily expressed this is, it contains a message of intrinsic value.

I am someone who has gone through this - years of depression and isolation that lead to a protracted and (*serious*) suicidal phase that lasted about a year - in the middle of a severe depression that lasted about *six* years - I posted about it a couple of pages back so I won't repeat myself. I have recovered completely from the suicidal part of it, so a) I know it can be done, and b) I have some knowledge as to how I made it.

The most important thing that I learned was that people are the most important thing in life - and that whatever other problems we may have in life that lead us to depression - especially suicidal depression - is the absence of people, or the connections to people - that lead us to deciding that there is no longer any point in living.

I also know that when we feel so utterly worthless, reaching out to people is probably the last thing that we feel like doing, as besides the lack of motivation, we feel that we have nothing to offer except our emotional baggage.

But it is the connection and love that we receive from others that heals all wounds and eases all pain. I have seen my life (and the lives of some of my friends) turned from absolute crud to glorious ceremony, just through the act of falling in love.

Obviously that is an extreme - but I suggest that one can move away from suicide rapidly, through something as simple as the formation of a friendship - and that one can cement that distance with the formation of a few more.

Now I am sure that the typical reaction to this is that it is pretty obvious - and the flaw in the concept is exactly the lack of energy, self confidence, and everything else needed be attractive enough to have people want to be your friend.

My recovery began when I found the path back. It's pretty extreme - but the proof - as they say - is in the eating of the pudding.

Consider this: You are so utterly alone and lonely that you are willing to actually end your life - to kill yourself - forever - with no chance of ever doing anything again. I intimately know how this feels. But if you are willing to to such an absolute extreme to end your pain, then it opens up a door to a room of infinte possibilities; possibilities that you might never ever consider at any time, under any circumstances, but which when compared to death, can suddenly seem a lot more possible. If you are willing to die, then what else on earth could possibly be asd intimidating or extreme.

Imagine a world in which you can do anything without fear of retribution or consequence - that no act you commit can be too embarrassing - that no mistake you make can ever be too big - that you can cross any line - do anything - be anyone. If you picture in your mind the person that you have always wanted to be, but are too bound by circumstance - by the image of you that you feel others perceive in you - or your fear of embarrassing yourself - even to the extreme. What are any of these things compared to death.

Think of yourself standing on the precipice of your suicide - about to take the plunge - to end with totality - everything. Then think, instead of seeing this as a dark doorless room, with no light, no direction, no hope, seeing it instead as an opportunity - the ultimate opportunity - an opportunity in which all of the restraints that have ever held you back in any and every direction are removed, and you are finally liberated to take any step that you were previously too nervous to take, risk the risk that always seemed too precarious to invest in, be the person that you have always wanted to be, but without the growing pains that inevitably accompany any action of which the result can be embarrassing.

No consequence. When you are ready to die there are no consequences to fear. If you embarrass yourself, you can jump off the cliff. If you are rejected you can still end the pain. If you fail - even miserably - at least you will have tried. Because no matter how it turns out, you can still kill yourself in the morning - but at least you will died knowing that you have at least once in your life, really, really tried your best - that for one day you rose above all your hesitation, reservation, anxiety and fear - that even if your life is still to end, that for one day at least, you truly lived.

And even if you did not succeed in your venture, perhaps having really lived for a day, you might decide that it is worth living another - and trying again to exceed your limitations, embrace the unfamiliarity of the world outside your comfort zone - because your comfort zone has been so uncomfortable for so long that you find dmore comfort in the thought of being dead.

The precipice of self-abandonment can instead be the tower self-discovery. And what have you got to lose? What greater cost is there than your life. And if you are willing to end it, then there is nothing else in life that can be more daunting, more fearful, more permanent.

My path to salvation was people. I was a hermit, living on an island having gone through a divorce, then finding and subsequently losing my soul mate. I was a drug addict on multiple fronts (a poly-toxi-obsessionist I used to call myslef). At 47 years old I knew no-one, had no family other than my two children, had no job as I had a disability, and did not have a friend - not even a buddy - in the whole wide world. The phone never rang, and I never called anyone. I ate drank and slept alone. I had no avenues through which to befriend anyone, even if I wanted to.

So one morning I woke up, spray painted my car a million shades of psychedelic, started walking around twirling Bo-Staffs - went out and draped myself in strings of LED lights - amd just generally made a total spectacle of myself - the exact opposite of everything that I had been living for years. My message was simple. I'm here. I exist. Notice me!!

And they did. It was not overnight. And my instinctive reaction every day was to crawl back in my shell, because it seemed that I got so little back from so much effort. My energy waxed and waned - I lost faith a number of times and had to drag myself back out of my shell. But I was noticed - and talked to - and eventually invited to a party - and suddenly I was in a group of people who it turned out were freaks, just like me, and they noticed that I was a carzy psychedelic artist, and they asked me to do visuals at an upcoming party, and another. Suddenly my antics with the car and the Staffs and the LED lights turned me from instead of being an oddball curiosity, an interesting person worth talking to, and befriending.

It is almost two years since my 'enlightenment'. I am no longer suicidal. I have more friends than I have had in many years, and more acquaintances than I have ever had at one time in my life. While I miss the intimacy of romance and the ecstasy of love - what I have is not perfect - but it is enough. Enough to continue, and to continue investing, because you only get out of this life what you put into it.

I know that I rant on for way too long - probably a lot of people won't read this post because it's too verbose - others may find it annoying - and find me pompous for thinking that I have may have a kind of solution to a problem that I don't even know anything about. But I do know this:

If you are ready to end your life, then you are ready to step out on any limb that you have been too afraid to do before. If you're ready to die - then you are ready for the very first time in your life - to truly live.

The Very Merry Prankster
 
n3o... can not thank you enough i fluhed my oc's (kept the xanax though ;) i woke up today and realized life is shit right now, but its still worth living havent felt like that in months for anyone thinking about suicide try talking about whats getting you DoWn with someone helped me get through a horriable night.. thank you again for the support
 
DoWnR I'm so glad to hear that man!! I'm so proud of you. You're going to be just fine. Feel free to PM me any time you want to talk okay? Take care of yourself <3
 
@MP "The most important thing that I learned was that people are the most important thing in life -


I sort of know this to be true but after most people you know have left or shit on you, you become cynical and disheartened. Also i have very few emotions and just feel "unreal" and numb 24/7, so i find it difficult to enjoy company or indeed leave the house to make friends.
I am now of the opinion that people are o.k. , untill you get really involved with them, emotionally or otherwise. I dont think deaths the answer for everyone , some can take more than mental pain than others, but for me, ive grown weak, so the clock is ticking.
 
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Why is suicide so common in Finland, if I may ask? I was reading about this and I wondered what contributes to this.

I am also sorry to hear you have schizophrenia. And I am also sorry to hear you are "weakened in life" - do you want to talk about what this is like for you?

Yes i can. I'm 31. I was released from mental hospital little bit year ago(eleven months, my longest sentence, never in jail). My criminal activity was mild. But i had 1 G of MDPV there, then Morning glories and HBWRs, and Xanaxes a 100 bottle of 2mg. Still they didn't put me into prison-mental hospital. I was caught on LSAs and Xanaxes, every possible time i did run away and use everything possible. My sexuality(the non-virginity) is that i get alarming bells ringing when drunken bitches want to have sex, because possibility of child coming(it's not a big merit to a man, just a handshake into corrent target/more like wrong target accident. They treat those ppl differert who done "score 2", tit handtough/licking (haha).

I ask bitches if/when they decide to be with me, about periodicals, are they over yet? Are they over yet (that's a sex joke, get it?) ...Lol...Bitches love to be with me for years when they invent it that i'm impossible little monkey. But i don't want to be a practise boyfrned/childgiver to any.

So is with drugs there but also vise-versa. I had to quit drugs fisrt time (you know, a dry period now and then) when hash/bud that times(around 2000) friends got into MDMA and amphetamine, so with hash too, also bud too, and in 100 loads. And havent been friends since that or even before. And i'm not a car thief type or heroin abuse background having but luckily been very social and horny as teenage years to get out of family conditions and start using drugs, it develops mind comparing to idea of living on mother as adult, i hope you all know that thing that way.

What i mean is those LSA seeds cause leg pain and nauaseous toxic pain but it's bareable, its not bareable what i've had. I eat as much as can(weight gainig little by little) so i'm not in pain. It's little bit private and so-on but i had it for about year. It's not that i have to invent shit and pretend here. I'm adult.

Why suicide in Finland...There are dodenz, really dozens of wrist scarred people who had practised cutting, their some times very deep looking...IMO(just IMO, can't know about them all) is not raging snowstormy winters but family conditions. I hope you people understand that some people are poor and teenage frustration(IMO a case when not to commit) goes over with mental hospitaslition but as one, i put here huffing damage pain. The reasons ARE deep when not teenage frustration. Poorness and stupidity are cases, but i hope you people understand it's not barking of those people.
 
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Hey mate, sorry to hear you weren't feeling good yesterday :( How are you feeling today?? I also wanted to note something that you're probably well aware of, but the combination of alcohol and benzos would definitely be making your depression worse! It's a really really bad combo for someone who is feeling depressed and suicidal. Have you got a friend or family member that you can talk to about how you're feeling? <3

Hey n3o, feeling better today, cept for a hangover. Unfortunately i've just always used benzos and alcohol together. I have actually told myself "i"m quitting drinking", cos of the stress it causes to my parents. Got a few ppl I can talk to luckily. Thanks m8 <3
 
Ive heard that about Finland as well that it has one of the highest rates of suicide of any country inspite of it being listed as one of the best countries to live in. Maybe it's the weather as there tends to be higher suicide rates in places like Finland that have long winters but who knows.

I was actually very fucking surprised when i looked up the province i live in in Canada and found that atleast the part of the province where i live (not the mainland part theres a very high suicide rate there) has one of the lowest if not the lowest rate of suicide in canada. This inspite of the really dreary weather, widespread poverty, the highest rate of unemployment in the country and being the poorest province in Canada. This along with the very high rate of alcohol and drug abuse as well. I thought it would be one of the highest in Canada but nope i was proved wrong. Saying that i know way too many people here who have offed themselves.

Huuh, i had to change some, not to advertise myself with weak merits, but it's possible that responsibilities and acceptance are not in a straight pile with the elderly people. But slanting. I think that makes sense little bit. They have their authority and pride, but ibuprofen for a hangover headache is pill popping to the worst part of people. And of course tightness has been a very important value.

Good with vectors is that they teach them in highschool. From nationalist angle, i'd put that Fin has all expert areas fullfilled.

One thing is that Finland is large area with low population and i don't suspect even a minute friend cliques aren't frustrated in northern small villages.
 
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you're good with vectors? I wanna see. :)
there's a decent market for graphic/cgi-artists/producers.... the whole world 'round. everyone & everything business is going online, and that means you could go everywhere.
 
Let's keep this on topic shall we? There is a social thread in TDS where you can discuss social stuff - PA

He, up there was asking about vectors, DAMN!!! Then, if this kind of case, no more information about them. And they just fly in mind fast...hahh-hahh-hahh!
 
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