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If i loose my health once more, i wait half to 1 year. Then if not passing, i commit. No worries, i don't want to have sanctuary here even it would be over 1000 posts. And clearing them away ,if done, in some yearly cleaning. Or put it this way, his parents serched the cellphone and put him permanently away.

Is it possible with 100 tab bottle of clotsapine 100mgs and 100 tab bottle of alprazolam 2mgs with tolerance to both?
 
anything's possible.

don't take this the wrong way, but yeh seriously need to find a different translation-program or bone up on yer English. it'll help everyone & yourself included, if yeh feel like sticking around here. I'd offer to tutor yeh (pay no heed to my syntax & colloquialisms here.... I'm normally just lazy).... it just sucks trying to tutor by electron. It's way faster when a native-speaker is teachin' up close.
 
Orangutangpsychopa said:
If i loose my health once more, i wait half to 1 year. Then if not passing, i commit. No worries, i don't want to have sanctuary here even it would be over 1000 posts. And clearing them away ,if done, in some yearly cleaning. Or put it this way, his parents serched the cellphone and put him permanently away.

Is it possible with 100 tab bottle of clotsapine 100mgs and 100 tab bottle of alprazolam 2mgs with tolerance to both?
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I'm not really sure what you're asking. I get the inkling due to the nature of this thread, and the fact you are posting asking about alprazolam, is if it's enough to do yourself in.

Quite simply, benzos are not suicide material. They have a very large therapeutic window, and are rather difficult to overdose on. Please do not attempt suicide using benzos. Tolerance will also limit the effects benzos have on you in the first place.
 
I've been trying to follow our friend here, but its just usually too much to try and decode. Finnish and Estonian are amongst the hardest to translate into standard English.
but yeah, the gist of everything I've read by our resident Finn is just that.....

Capt. Heroin is right, benzodiazepines are problematic for suicide. Not impossible, because they'll still kill yeh.... just.... problematic.
death by benzo is a really ugly affair, regardless.... as far as suicides go.

I had a friend who committed suicide a while back, who tried once to OD on valium and booze. got 'im sent to the ER for that. He said that while it wasn't a classic near-death experience, he wasn't completely out. Said it was the most terrifying thing, because it felt like being smothered or waterboarded the entire time.
that was for the better part of 24hrs. imagine being waterboarded for that long. ugh.
 
Ixchellian said:
I've been trying to follow our friend here, but its just usually too much to try and decode.
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I can understand him just fine :)


Orangutang, as others have said, benzos are not to be used for suicidal purposes, especially with a tolerance like yours.
You mentioned your health, what's wrong??
 
n3ophy7e said:
I can understand him just fine :)


Orangutang, as others have said, benzos are not to be used for suicidal purposes, especially with a tolerance like yours.
You mentioned your health, what's wrong??
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that's cause yer a shrink-in-training. ;)
......
that's what I've been trying to piece together with older posts. I gotta nagging feeling O-dood's shared as much already.
 
benzo's on their own are very safe when overdosed but when mixed they are lethal especially with res. depressants like opiates. I took 40 10mg diazepam and 2 bags i.v. heroin and i was in a coma for a while, sadly some member of public found me + drove me to a hospital, bloody do-gooder thus saving my "life".
 
donnie080208 said:
benzo's on their own are very safe when overdosed but when mixed they are lethal especially with res. depressants like opiates. I took 40 10mg diazepam and 2 bags i.v. heroin and i was in a coma for a while, sadly some member of public found me + drove me to a hospital, bloody do-gooder thus saving my "life".
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or booze.
in any case... those I know who've OD'ed on benzos & alcohol, died because they choked on their own vomit. those who went with benzos and opiates choked on their own tongues. not cool for those of us left to find the mess and handle the loss.

that bloody do-gooder was just being a good person, and had no idea you're trying to accomplish something.

"Why'd you cut me down!? I was almost there, I was on the edge of the abyss!" - Capt. Howdy

;)
 
@enki " How are you feeling? Did the hospital arrange any followup care? I hope things are in the process of getting much better. "


Think you are talking to me about my post. I discharged myself when i come round and refused treatment at a psych hospital and said it was accidental so they failed at sectioning me. This was bout 12 months ago and if my H dealer had answered his phone and dropped the H at my house i wouldnt be talking to you now. I got a discharge letter a few days later as i dont remeber leaving hospital after a came to, btw does anyone know what this "would not tolerate nasopharangeal airway" would mean if found unconsious ? it was on the discharge letter they sent in the post.
thanks for your PM last week enki and your earnest concern
 
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Captain.Heroin said:
I'm not really sure what you're asking. I get the inkling due to the nature of this thread, and the fact you are posting asking about alprazolam, is if it's enough to do yourself in.

Quite simply, benzos are not suicide material. They have a very large therapeutic window, and are rather difficult to overdose on. Please do not attempt suicide using benzos. Tolerance will also limit the effects benzos have on you in the first place.
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I know what you mean. Finland is my original language and it's that some people make sentences complicate when translating speach in mind. It's possible to explain clear without conditional( i mean without complex conditionals, which can be IF, OPPOSITE, COULD, and so on. )

I know now those type of sentences don't make any sense. It's suprising i'm not understandable.

Do you understand this? It is possible to spoil mind here and get upset.

What i mean, the pill bottles are good size to choke. Did you understand that?

I have seen many texts this way "5000mg DXM doses are lethal, you die into dehydration". Real fact is DXM/DXO are not drowsy or sleepy. Do you understand? It means when doing that medicine after the trip is done you can go to sleep. Do you understand that?

Anyway i'm not picking a fight. So benzos are not lethal but therapeutic. Right on man. Do those "banzos" have LD50?
 
Ixchellian said:
I've been trying to follow our friend here, but its just usually too much to try and decode. Finnish and Estonian are amongst the hardest to translate into standard English.
but yeah, the gist of everything I've read by our resident Finn is just that.....

Capt. Heroin is right, benzodiazepines are problematic for suicide. Not impossible, because they'll still kill yeh.... just.... problematic.
death by benzo is a really ugly affair, regardless.... as far as suicides go.

I had a friend who committed suicide a while back, who tried once to OD on valium and booze. got 'im sent to the ER for that. He said that while it wasn't a classic near-death experience, he wasn't completely out. Said it was the most terrifying thing, because it felt like being smothered or waterboarded the entire time.
that was for the better part of 24hrs. imagine being waterboarded for that long. ugh.
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I put this without a fight in to an understand-able sentence. Finland is very complex language, we have meaningfull time phases for saying "Me eat brakfast".

Some people eat in morning. Do you understand?
Some people eat at morning.
 
n3ophy7e said:
I can understand him just fine :)


Orangutang, as others have said, benzos are not to be used for suicidal purposes, especially with a tolerance like yours.
You mentioned your health, what's wrong??
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I just came by to library quickly, there's oldschool drunkos outside. Haha. I have a computer problem.

He is just so messed up, in english school, you know they give s-ketamine instead of heroine. In english schools. It was explained to me in school, before high school, that don't do it wrong way, that english, in dot doses. Still i am complex educated in language and mathematicals. It can be difficult to undesrstand if a moron, these: AND is a conditional. Me AND You can talk. Me OR you are not same age. And more alphabetics too.

What comes to Larry The Magician, i write for my own fun long weird boring stories.

This is just to make clear again some points, not stealing the show and considering as tabloid magasine where i would be famous skijumper.

Last thing around these for a while, n3ophy7e is about 6-7 years younger than me and i consider her as little girl. But wants to smarten out. For a valued day job.

My health problem is pain, and private. But now gone for some reason. Last thing, i go to psychedelics and lounge from here, is this, instead of completely raged or crocodile tears, depending on the person who asks something, the answers are? Benzo is dangerous abusable tranquiliser, don't get. OR just a mild therapeutic medicine without any bad effects. In real life(after decade of abuse...?) it's not opiates little cousin BUT a alcohol type decadence messypile drug.
 
Orangutangpsychopa said:
Anyway i'm not picking a fight. So benzos are not lethal but therapeutic. Right on man. Do those "banzos" have LD50?
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As far as I know, Benzos do not have a standard LD50. The body can tolerate *very* high doses of Benzos - and I may have read that the excess is simply bypassed and excreted. They become a lot more dangerous when mixed with alcohol and several other prescription drugs.

If you want to kill yourself - benzos are not the way to go - as you will probably just end up in hospital and will no longer be able to get any benzos anymore.

Are you contemplating suicide? I could tell you a few things that will kill you for sure - even with no pain - but I'd rather try and influence you to stay alive.

I don;t know what your problems are - in the end it really doesn;t matter what the details are - just that you finally get to the point where it seems like you are unhappy and that you will be unhappy forever and nothig can change that. At times like these - suicide can seem like a truly viable option. But while I have most certainly at more than one time, seen a number of reasons to commit suicide, I have also seen a million more reasons *not* to.

I can share some of my insight if you are interested. Let me just tell you this for now.

I have just come out of the worst decade of my life. My life got so bad, in so many ways for *so* long that after *years* of it, I saw suicide as the only really viable option. I went from being someone who was thinking about suicide - even talking about suicide - wrestling with it - to someone who was going to do it. I stipped talking about it - I put on a face that showed nothing to anyone, and I styarted researching ways to do it that would kill me for *sure* - no 'attempted' suicide for me. Not a cry for help.

I was too afraid for most of them (I *am* afraid of dying - but I am *not* afraid of death). I realized that one of the most successful ways to do it was to hang yourself. As long as you do it right, it is painless and instant. SO I began doing the research into it. my biggest concern was that I would make the drop too far, and that it would decapitate me - and it was bad enough that someone might have to find my body - but to find my body and my head in different places - well that would have just been *rude*. So I found the exact length needed to kill me, butleave my head where it was supposed to be. I found the tree to jump from. I put up the rope.

And then I spent nearly two years wakingup every day, wondering if it would be my last. Each and every day - for two full years, I made the decision, one day at a time, to live just *one* more day.

Probably the *only* thing that *did* keep my alive was my kids. I have two kids that I adore - they are my world - and I could not bring myself to be so selfish that I would leave them a legacy that was me killing myself. Eventually I realized that if after 2 years I had not killed myuself for *this* reason - that I was most likely not going to do it. And once I realized that I had no choice other than staying alive, I decided one last time to give myself one final chance - a *real* one. So two years ago, I painted my car psychedelic Day Glo colours, drew a lot of attention to myself so that peolpe would start talking to me (I live on a small island and I had no friends at all). I started making the effort to go to social events (like playing music at Jam sessions) - and to just make all the kinds of effort that I had never made before. I decided to change who I was at the *core* because the 'me' that I had become was someoe who did not want to live. So I decided to make a new me - and to be the person that I have always wanted to be, but neverhad the courage. All of the things in life that used to frighten me were no longer an issue. Compared to *killing* myself, making the effort to change the way I live was not as hard as it once seemed.

I have had a number of friends in similar situations - and these friends have *not* found what they need yet - so it's not like I'm saying - hey - it;s easy - it;s not. And I would always seem to start slipping back to who I was before - but in the end I started to notice a difference.

To make the long story short - I am happy again. I am still on my own and have not had sex, or even a *date* in over 4 years - but I have made a lot of friends and acquaintances. I found a group of psychedelic people who I can relate to and be myself with - even though most of them are half my age.

I am *happy* again - after nearly 10 years of absolute hell - one divorce that lasted 4 horrible years - I lost my kids and had to fight in Supreme court to get them back - I have been so poor that the winter before last I was only *eating* about twice a week.

AFter years of depression/suicidal feelings, I had lost *all* faith in *ever* being happy again. As far as I was concerned it was no longer possible. Even if I imagined I had all the money n the wporld and I could do *anything* I wanted, there was nothing that I could think of that would make me happy. It was just *gone*.

yet here I am - alive and happy - being more creative than I have in years - huge group of friends. I am as far away from feeling suicidal as I was close to it back then. I am better.

my point? It *is* possible. I know one thing - no matter *where* you are - no matter *how* bad it is - and you know it's only going to get worse. No matter what you have been through - no matter how long - how deep - you can *ALWAYS* fix it and be happy again.

And you'd be amazed at how quickly you heal and forget about the bad stuff when it's all good again.

I have a lot of reasons (other ones) for being pro-life in regards to suicide - but the point I wnated to make is that suicide is in part a product of losing all hope - losing the belief that it is *possible* for it to get better. And I am trying to tell you that it is. It is always possible - for *everything* to get *completely* better. It takes a lot of work - and a willingness to change. But there are a hundren different solutions - all infinitely better than suicide.

If you kill yourself - you really reduce your chances of finding happiness.

Please don't do it.

tmp
 
TheMerryPrankster said:
As far as I know, Benzos do not have a standard LD50. The body can tolerate *very* high doses of Benzos - and I may have read that the excess is simply bypassed and excreted. They become a lot more dangerous when mixed with alcohol and several other prescription drugs.

If you want to kill yourself - benzos are not the way to go - as you will probably just end up in hospital and will no longer be able to get any benzos anymore.

Are you contemplating suicide? I could tell you a few things that will kill you for sure - even with no pain - but I'd rather try and influence you to stay alive.

I don;t know what your problems are - in the end it really doesn;t matter what the details are - just that you finally get to the point where it seems like you are unhappy and that you will be unhappy forever and nothig can change that. At times like these - suicide can seem like a truly viable option. But while I have most certainly at more than one time, seen a number of reasons to commit suicide, I have also seen a million more reasons *not* to.

I can share some of my insight if you are interested. Let me just tell you this for now.

I have just come out of the worst decade of my life. My life got so bad, in so many ways for *so* long that after *years* of it, I saw suicide as the only really viable option. I went from being someone who was thinking about suicide - even talking about suicide - wrestling with it - to someone who was going to do it. I stipped talking about it - I put on a face that showed nothing to anyone, and I styarted researching ways to do it that would kill me for *sure* - no 'attempted' suicide for me. Not a cry for help.

I was too afraid for most of them (I *am* afraid of dying - but I am *not* afraid of death). I realized that one of the most successful ways to do it was to hang yourself. As long as you do it right, it is painless and instant. SO I began doing the research into it. my biggest concern was that I would make the drop too far, and that it would decapitate me - and it was bad enough that someone might have to find my body - but to find my body and my head in different places - well that would have just been *rude*. So I found the exact length needed to kill me, butleave my head where it was supposed to be. I found the tree to jump from. I put up the rope.

And then I spent nearly two years wakingup every day, wondering if it would be my last. Each and every day - for two full years, I made the decision, one day at a time, to live just *one* more day.

Probably the *only* thing that *did* keep my alive was my kids. I have two kids that I adore - they are my world - and I could not bring myself to be so selfish that I would leave them a legacy that was me killing myself. Eventually I realized that if after 2 years I had not killed myuself for *this* reason - that I was most likely not going to do it. And once I realized that I had no choice other than staying alive, I decided one last time to give myself one final chance - a *real* one. So two years ago, I painted my car psychedelic Day Glo colours, drew a lot of attention to myself so that peolpe would start talking to me (I live on a small island and I had no friends at all). I started making the effort to go to social events (like playing music at Jam sessions) - and to just make all the kinds of effort that I had never made before. I decided to change who I was at the *core* because the 'me' that I had become was someoe who did not want to live. So I decided to make a new me - and to be the person that I have always wanted to be, but neverhad the courage. All of the things in life that used to frighten me were no longer an issue. Compared to *killing* myself, making the effort to change the way I live was not as hard as it once seemed.

I have had a number of friends in similar situations - and these friends have *not* found what they need yet - so it's not like I'm saying - hey - it;s easy - it;s not. And I would always seem to start slipping back to who I was before - but in the end I started to notice a difference.

To make the long story short - I am happy again. I am still on my own and have not had sex, or even a *date* in over 4 years - but I have made a lot of friends and acquaintances. I found a group of psychedelic people who I can relate to and be myself with - even though most of them are half my age.

I am *happy* again - after nearly 10 years of absolute hell - one divorce that lasted 4 horrible years - I lost my kids and had to fight in Supreme court to get them back - I have been so poor that the winter before last I was only *eating* about twice a week.

AFter years of depression/suicidal feelings, I had lost *all* faith in *ever* being happy again. As far as I was concerned it was no longer possible. Even if I imagined I had all the money n the wporld and I could do *anything* I wanted, there was nothing that I could think of that would make me happy. It was just *gone*.

yet here I am - alive and happy - being more creative than I have in years - huge group of friends. I am as far away from feeling suicidal as I was close to it back then. I am better.

my point? It *is* possible. I know one thing - no matter *where* you are - no matter *how* bad it is - and you know it's only going to get worse. No matter what you have been through - no matter how long - how deep - you can *ALWAYS* fix it and be happy again.

And you'd be amazed at how quickly you heal and forget about the bad stuff when it's all good again.

I have a lot of reasons (other ones) for being pro-life in regards to suicide - but the point I wnated to make is that suicide is in part a product of losing all hope - losing the belief that it is *possible* for it to get better. And I am trying to tell you that it is. It is always possible - for *everything* to get *completely* better. It takes a lot of work - and a willingness to change. But there are a hundren different solutions - all infinitely better than suicide.

If you kill yourself - you really reduce your chances of finding happiness.

Please don't do it.

tmp
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I unfortunately don't have time now but will read later. 1: when on benzo drunk, 4mg of buprenorphine injected(of course in subutex form) could do it if sleeping on back. I would make it serious attempt with more than blister plate (enki-nihilischm typor) of midazolam with bupe 4mg on drunk.

2: Say it is codeine because lack of life experience and the mixture of PCs, illegal drugs and virginity are the thing. Drive your car as techical virgin wanting to get lay down with women. ÄIt's the religion.

3: non-accidental is 1200mg of diazepam, but alprazolam amount would be 4000mg equivalent sedation/tranquil but 2-3 euphoric doses.

4: Don't permaban me now, i have issues with male psychedelic practitioners here.

5: it's chipping what is the secret and i know all limits and LD50s but because rules allow only saying it's NO drug names, No dosage levels, No brains No living on own. Place into a A-clinic 200-300 pound fat red cunt with a orangutang makes better sense.
 
@the merryprankster

Your story is no doubt inspirational and i admire your courage but i am now virtually housebound through my nerves etc..and wouldnt know where to start plus i dont believe my problems are circumstances but physiological. Even when ive had good things in my life job/GF,my kids ive still been tormented by "unreality" feelings and emotional numbness, thats why personally i feel my suicide is "morally justified" If you cant feel whats the point in living . I dont have a romantic attachment to suicide and dont think im centre of attention here or any where else, i will just be another sad stastistic forgotten about in weeks except by my father and kids.
anyway MP i hope you carry on making your life better
peace donnie
 
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