ejnjgrl822
Bluelighter
I'm curious how many mgs I'd need to take to be buzzin. A rush would be awesome.
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HdoubleODeezy
Bluelighter
^^ look up one post.
it would be a subtle rush, so you would need to be basically sitting just chillin watchin some tv to feel it.. if you're moving around and doing a bunch of stuff it might be hard to catch it, but even if you miss the subtle rush you still get to nod :D
it would be a subtle rush, so you would need to be basically sitting just chillin watchin some tv to feel it.. if you're moving around and doing a bunch of stuff it might be hard to catch it, but even if you miss the subtle rush you still get to nod :D
ejnjgrl822
Bluelighter
I'm gonna do it right now and let you know how it goes lol. Thanks!
HdoubleODeezy
Bluelighter
no problem.. i based that dose off an average (medium) tolerance so i think you should be good. it can take around 5min to feel the rush tho so if you don't feel anything right after injecting don't be disappointed just sit and chill.
amapola
Bluelight Crew
Haha I am well aware of bupe's extremely strong affinity and, if I remember correctly, how Captain.Heroin likes shooting it everyday. I did think the naloxone would compete with the bupe enough to prevent a good rush and that would make the inherent complications with iving not worth it. I could very well be mistaken about that though as it is merely the experience of a few friends who tried it speaking and not any scientific data.
HdoubleODeezy
Bluelighter
oh iight, by the way i was just messin with you.. im a pain in the ass, ask Cane lol.
but the naloxone doesn't bloc the rush, it either makes it subtle or it makes it delayed.
but some say there is no rush so it is hard to know what to beleive unless you do it yourself.
ejnjgrl822
Bluelighter
Yeah I definately felt/ feel something creepin up on me. 1mg was decent for using suboxone in that manner. I got off my 25 bag a day dope habit to my 400-600mg a day Roxie habit and I'm just killin these strips. I haven't used since Tuesday and I wasn't dope sick at all which was weird. Just some discomfort. I'd think after doing 600mg of roxies a day I'd have wds from hell but oddly enough that never happened. It was weird. Anyway yeah thanks for the suggestion I appreciate it
BanginMyLifeAway
Bluelighter
i feel off of my sub routine... ended up gettin a handful of k4s and methadones...but ima bout to go back to subs i couldnt pass up a lil 3 day binge ha
amapola
Bluelight Crew
Have you read this Tramadol and Suboxone?
That is a hefty dose of bupe and could be contributing to not feeling a buzz. I don't think every says you catch a nod though some people do find a nice synergy.
That is a hefty dose of bupe and could be contributing to not feeling a buzz. I don't think every says you catch a nod though some people do find a nice synergy.
hey, guys & gals. Just wanted to check in here b/c I'm PRAYING hard that on Tuesday I will be getting put on subs. It's all up to my PM doc, but I'm SOOOOO sick & tired of the oxy train I just can't stand it. If he won't do subs, but WILL do methadone, I will go that route, but I want to do subs if I can get him to put me on them. I finally figured out that a PM doc can prescribe subs w/o the certificate for pain management, it's just prescribing for addiction that they need the certificate for.
Anyway, I've read & read & read everything I can on here & everywhere else about subs & methadone & I just CANNOT wait for my appt on Tuesday. I'm busting at the seams right now. I'm ready to get on the subs & on w/ my life. Keep out a good thought or say a prayer to your goddess or dance naked in your backyard (like a good friend of mine in Tucson does) for me that I get the subs on Tuesday!
Kelly
Anyway, I've read & read & read everything I can on here & everywhere else about subs & methadone & I just CANNOT wait for my appt on Tuesday. I'm busting at the seams right now. I'm ready to get on the subs & on w/ my life. Keep out a good thought or say a prayer to your goddess or dance naked in your backyard (like a good friend of mine in Tucson does) for me that I get the subs on Tuesday!
Kelly
muvolution
Bluelight Crew
yeah, I was on Tramadol ans Suboxone for opiate detox/ pain management (which is tricky at best) and it works OK. With under 1.5mg of suboxone (Sublingual) or 1mg (snorted) and 400-600mg of Tramadol I would get some slight nods and an Ok head on.
Obviously don't take over 400mg of Tramadol ever, and if you are going to go for higher doses than like 2-300mg I would combine an anti-convulsant like a benzo (but those can be dangerous with bupe if you aren't tolerant to benzo's) or lyrica/ gababentin.
Again, Tramadol is very dangerous, and if you have a history of seizure from it, or not, you should avoid it at all costs.
Tarpentadol may synergize as well, but this is mostly due to SNRi activity, not the Mu aspect of the tramadol or its metabolites.
Edit: and to Cadeblue, yes, your PM doctor can and most likely will prescribe Suboxone, or more realistically Subutex if you demonstrate a want and will to be off your current PM regimen. This connects with my above post because tramadol mixed with it can help greatly for pain.
Methadone is also better for pain in my opinion, but if you are looking to discontinue completely, go with the Subutex.
Obviously don't take over 400mg of Tramadol ever, and if you are going to go for higher doses than like 2-300mg I would combine an anti-convulsant like a benzo (but those can be dangerous with bupe if you aren't tolerant to benzo's) or lyrica/ gababentin.
Again, Tramadol is very dangerous, and if you have a history of seizure from it, or not, you should avoid it at all costs.
Tarpentadol may synergize as well, but this is mostly due to SNRi activity, not the Mu aspect of the tramadol or its metabolites.
Edit: and to Cadeblue, yes, your PM doctor can and most likely will prescribe Suboxone, or more realistically Subutex if you demonstrate a want and will to be off your current PM regimen. This connects with my above post because tramadol mixed with it can help greatly for pain.
Methadone is also better for pain in my opinion, but if you are looking to discontinue completely, go with the Subutex.
caseface99
Bluelight Crew
IVing will require less suboxone, initially - but in my experience it leaves you needing more way before your next dose. I've tried sniffing too but personally nothing beats getting the strips and actually dissolving them under your tongue. long lasting full relief. 
ok dumb question - I take 28mg sub in 2 doses. they give me 14mg broken up and make me wait in the waiting room for that to dissolve. then i go back and get the other 14mg and leave.
this morning i diverted the second 14mg and have this one big wet glob of subutex on a piece of newspaper. and i took 2 x 200SR Trams.
Can I dry out the subutex maybe in the microwave to chop it up and snort it? and will it give me a buzz?
edit - no need to microwave - it's pretty dry and chopping nicely with a razorblade. now do i rail it now, before the first 14mg sublingual takes effect or do i wait an hour or two for the sr trams to take affect and then snort it?
such a noob. a noob with a fucking huge oxy tolerance.
this morning i diverted the second 14mg and have this one big wet glob of subutex on a piece of newspaper. and i took 2 x 200SR Trams.
Can I dry out the subutex maybe in the microwave to chop it up and snort it? and will it give me a buzz?
edit - no need to microwave - it's pretty dry and chopping nicely with a razorblade. now do i rail it now, before the first 14mg sublingual takes effect or do i wait an hour or two for the sr trams to take affect and then snort it?
such a noob. a noob with a fucking huge oxy tolerance.
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Well I guess the question is what are you trying to acomplish here???
If your thinking its gonna give you a buzz the answer is no. Youd be better off just taking it as perscribed by your Doc.
Not totally sure but once mixed with saliva or water I beleive as time goes by its losing its potency..
My advice to you is tomarrow take a perscribed.
If your thinking its gonna give you a buzz the answer is no. Youd be better off just taking it as perscribed by your Doc.
Not totally sure but once mixed with saliva or water I beleive as time goes by its losing its potency..
My advice to you is tomarrow take a perscribed.
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Sometimes I get frustrated when I see people abusing the medication that I am trying to use to become sober. Then I remember what a disease addiction can be, empathize with other users, and try to be as supportive as I can while still expressing my beliefs that Buprenorphine should not be abused as it is one of the few legitimate outlets addicts have.
Sometimes I get frustrated when I see people abusing the medication that I am trying to use to become sober. Then I remember what a disease addiction can be, empathize with other users, and try to be as supportive as I can while still expressing my beliefs that Buprenorphine should not be abused as it is one of the few legitimate outlets addicts have.
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ThePharmicist
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Anyone else experienced this?
I'm experiencing some strange effects from my Suboxone – they seem downright contradictory to what one would expect.
So prior to the past month or so I had been using Suboxone and heroin essentially at the same time. What I would do is take Suboxone to deal with the w/d symptoms while using. What would often happen is that I'd take my Suboxone in the morning (2-4mgs) and then shoot dope later in the day. I would still get high and I attributed it to the low dose of Suboxone. This went on for around 6-months, and at one point I was taking 8mgs of Suboxone and "topping-off" with heroin.
Well, now I'm pretty much back on the Suboxone. My dose is now 24mgs and I've been on that for 5-days, and before that 16mgs. I've felt like crap for the entire time I've been back on Suboxone: depression, anxiety, aches, and intense cravings. It's almost like mild withdrawal. Also, even on 24mgs of Suboxone for 5-days (only 16mgs today), I messed up and used dope today and I can still get high. I can pretty much feel the full effects with the exception of the rush. I don't get it, on the pharmacological level this shouldn't even be possible, should it? It's almost like I have more opioid receptors than Suboxone can fill. To clarify, on any dose I've been on, even for an extended period of time (extended meaning the stabilization period of 7.5-days) – I still feel like crap and I can still get high using heroin. Frustrating and confusing. . .
I'm experiencing some strange effects from my Suboxone – they seem downright contradictory to what one would expect.
So prior to the past month or so I had been using Suboxone and heroin essentially at the same time. What I would do is take Suboxone to deal with the w/d symptoms while using. What would often happen is that I'd take my Suboxone in the morning (2-4mgs) and then shoot dope later in the day. I would still get high and I attributed it to the low dose of Suboxone. This went on for around 6-months, and at one point I was taking 8mgs of Suboxone and "topping-off" with heroin.
Well, now I'm pretty much back on the Suboxone. My dose is now 24mgs and I've been on that for 5-days, and before that 16mgs. I've felt like crap for the entire time I've been back on Suboxone: depression, anxiety, aches, and intense cravings. It's almost like mild withdrawal. Also, even on 24mgs of Suboxone for 5-days (only 16mgs today), I messed up and used dope today and I can still get high. I can pretty much feel the full effects with the exception of the rush. I don't get it, on the pharmacological level this shouldn't even be possible, should it? It's almost like I have more opioid receptors than Suboxone can fill. To clarify, on any dose I've been on, even for an extended period of time (extended meaning the stabilization period of 7.5-days) – I still feel like crap and I can still get high using heroin. Frustrating and confusing. . .
no sub or orpiates day six pretty chill bupe taper
I RECENTLY STOPPED USING SUBOXONE (cant get any) day SIX.. Really was surprised it had taken this long. I havent abused other opiates besides a few vicodins over the last month and a codeine syrup from the doc. BUT had 15 suboxones Ive taken over the last 30-35 days
FORMER FAT H SNOOTS on and off FOR ABOUT 2 YEARS. MIXED IN WAS OTHER SHIT ALONG THE WAY. NO METH or CRACK, REALLY INTO OPIATES
I TAPERED FOR 7-8 days before i was on about shortly under a full N8 suboxone. Even with this taper at the end (was making pill last about 8 days
)
suboxone seemed like a natural fit considering it lasted a while, you could get by on just a small piece of a pill every other day... the ONLY drug I could have ever let last this long with the quantity had.
Anyway, this past christmas holiday season I spent probably a good <snip> on OC-OPs. No regular ocs just the ops. <snip> bucks an 80 with some other shit thrown in free isnt a bad deal.
I like eating xans, i feel i do have some level of anxiety, but right now i know its the subs eating at my shit in my head, even six days later
Days 1+2+3
Didnt really tell shit until day three when a huge pronounced headache hit me at about 12:30am
THIS HEADACHE, HOLY SHIT, I REALLY THOUGHT I WAS GONNA DIE
NOT A JOKE
was about to go to the hospital
anyway, had a tiny bit of xanax saved and some codeine syrup from the doc I had had since the week before, downed the shit out of it drank some rumple minz schnapps and took the xanax and passed the fuck out, not until about 1:30 of suffering, which i really dont remember if it hurt before I was actually knocked out.
Days 4+5+6
remind you this is all after the 8 day taper i was getting down on, every other day a tiny ass piece
but smaller pronounced headache, has gotten progressively better, still sleeplessness, although i find i can usually get a couple hours of good sleep, but occaisionally wake up not necessarily with the sweats, but some jive bullshit
smoke a ton of weed during all of this to ease the symptoms, helps an unreal amount especially if your smoking quality. as i said, transporting weed and selling it (trafficking and distribution) was a strong hobby of a lot of people i know... %)
will most likely post again when i cant sleep at 5 int he morning with a test at one o clock but fucking no way im studying for that bitch
I RECENTLY STOPPED USING SUBOXONE (cant get any) day SIX.. Really was surprised it had taken this long. I havent abused other opiates besides a few vicodins over the last month and a codeine syrup from the doc. BUT had 15 suboxones Ive taken over the last 30-35 days
FORMER FAT H SNOOTS on and off FOR ABOUT 2 YEARS. MIXED IN WAS OTHER SHIT ALONG THE WAY. NO METH or CRACK, REALLY INTO OPIATES
I TAPERED FOR 7-8 days before i was on about shortly under a full N8 suboxone. Even with this taper at the end (was making pill last about 8 days
)suboxone seemed like a natural fit considering it lasted a while, you could get by on just a small piece of a pill every other day... the ONLY drug I could have ever let last this long with the quantity had.
Anyway, this past christmas holiday season I spent probably a good <snip> on OC-OPs. No regular ocs just the ops. <snip> bucks an 80 with some other shit thrown in free isnt a bad deal.
I like eating xans, i feel i do have some level of anxiety, but right now i know its the subs eating at my shit in my head, even six days later
Days 1+2+3
Didnt really tell shit until day three when a huge pronounced headache hit me at about 12:30am
THIS HEADACHE, HOLY SHIT, I REALLY THOUGHT I WAS GONNA DIE
NOT A JOKE
was about to go to the hospital
anyway, had a tiny bit of xanax saved and some codeine syrup from the doc I had had since the week before, downed the shit out of it drank some rumple minz schnapps and took the xanax and passed the fuck out, not until about 1:30 of suffering, which i really dont remember if it hurt before I was actually knocked out.
Days 4+5+6
remind you this is all after the 8 day taper i was getting down on, every other day a tiny ass piece
but smaller pronounced headache, has gotten progressively better, still sleeplessness, although i find i can usually get a couple hours of good sleep, but occaisionally wake up not necessarily with the sweats, but some jive bullshit
smoke a ton of weed during all of this to ease the symptoms, helps an unreal amount especially if your smoking quality. as i said, transporting weed and selling it (trafficking and distribution) was a strong hobby of a lot of people i know... %)
will most likely post again when i cant sleep at 5 int he morning with a test at one o clock but fucking no way im studying for that bitch
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