Bupe Suboxone/Buprenorphine FAQ & Megathread v3; 2010 - 2022

[SineWaveSoldier]

I used to shoot subutuex last year and if you saved your rinse and did one on the bigger pills it would fucking hurt, bad. It would still get you high or off sick but it would fucking sting. I only did that once or twice. And sometimes it would burn on the first shot.

 

[ellua]

for christ sake ppl, do some fucking research before you put your child's life in danger. hell if i was a pregnant woman, i'd quit whatever the fuck i was taking cold turkey no matter what the fuck it was. a good parent ALWAYS puts their child's well being before themself.

easy to say, especially if there's no chance you'll ever be pregnant.

i'm not a bad parent because i wasn't able to stop taking my medications during my pregnancies, quite the contrary- i'm not sure i'd be able to provide a roof over our heads if i stopped my meds. my OB, addictionologist, and pediatrician agreed it's better to continue the meds than go thru the stess of quitting and withdrawals and risking my career at the least opportune time.

before i ever was preggo i was convinced i would *certainly* quit everything for 9 months or at least take the tiniest doses possible. what kind of shitty person wouldn't?

once you go thru it yourself though, let me know how it goes.

 

[SineWaveSoldier]

Yeah pahn. What if you accidentally got pregnant and FOR THE BABYS SAFETY you could not risk a miscarriage during pregnancy.

Its more about maintenance being beneficial to the baby. Withdrawal is fucking dangerous. My girl is kicking all the shit she is on and I applaud her efforts. Shes a real fucking woman, a damn strong one.

 

[Opioid-yum-yum]

Hi T I have absolutely no problem what so ever with constipation on Suboxone. I however did suffer terribly while on heroine but we are all different are we not?

 

[tomatalli]

Alright guys so I've been taking 8mg of subs for 2 weeks, I wanna get off I don't like how it makes me feel and I think I better just stop all opiates rather than prolong my addiction every day I continue SUbs. I'm looking for advice but also was wondering about a taper schedule? How fast do people normally go down in mg, I would figure you could drop at higher levels at a faster pace then have to slow it down as you get below 2-4mg from What I have read. Any advice on the taper and subs itself is appreciated

 

[alcoholic333]

I started on 12 mg for one day then 8mg for a week, 6 mg for a week, 4mg for 10 days, 2mg for a week, now at 1mg with barely any discomfort. You could probably go even quicker with minor discomfort. I'd recommend dropping straight to 3-4 right now see how you feel and take it from there

 

[alcoholic333]

I started on 12 mg for one day then 8mg for a week, 6 mg for a week, 4mg for 10 days, 2mg for a week, now at 1mg with barely any discomfort. You could probably go even quicker with minor discomfort. I'd recommend dropping straight to 3-4 right now see how you feel and take it from there

 

[OEandricearoni]

I went to go see my sub doc today. Before i was worried about not having started any sort of therapy or counseling and thought he might be mad.

I was definitely mistaken, he definitely didn't really care all that much. The dude literally talked to me for 1 minute and gave me my perscription. This is actually more than he did last time, as last time I didn't even leave the waiting room he literally just handed me a perscription. All he said today was to not mix it with benzos...that's about it....no drug test. He asks me everytime "any relapses" I just say no and he's just like "good".

My old sub doctors always gave me occasional drug tests, my first one on every visit. It's quite nice having one who doesn't as it saves me a lot of money. I pretty much go there, pay, get handed perscription and leave.

I'm tapered down to 3mg/day now and am starting 2 tomorrow. He still thinks i take 8mg a day so hopefully I'll be able to stockpile enough over the next few months to just stop going altogether.

 

[Captain.Heroin]

I went to go see my sub doc today. Before i was worried about not having started any sort of therapy or counseling and thought he might be mad.

I was definitely mistaken, he definitely didn't really care all that much. The dude literally talked to me for 1 minute and gave me my perscription. This is actually more than he did last time, as last time I didn't even leave the waiting room he literally just handed me a perscription. All he said today was to not mix it with benzos...that's about it....no drug test. He asks me everytime "any relapses" I just say no and he's just like "good".

My old sub doctors always gave me occasional drug tests, my first one on every visit. It's quite nice having one who doesn't as it saves me a lot of money. I pretty much go there, pay, get handed perscription and leave.

I'm tapered down to 3mg/day now and am starting 2 tomorrow. He still thinks i take 8mg a day so hopefully I'll be able to stockpile enough over the next few months to just stop going altogether.

Glad to hear you still got your prescription.

Definitely stock pile extra Suboxone, it's never a bad plan for the future.

I'm planning on going back to a doctor just to stockpile again.

 

[tomatalli]

I'm planning on going back to a doctor just to stockpile again.

This is one of the reasons I wanna taper down to about 1-2 mg or get off. I know they'll come handy sometime. Anyway, I was thinking of a taper plan like this..those of you who have taper rather painlessly chime in please start was on 8mg.
Week 1(starting today)4mg
Week 2 3mg
Week 3 2mg
Week 4 1mg
Should I do more than just a week at each Dosage interval?
Am I lost? Or on the right track, also not sure what to do after 1mg.

 

[alcoholic333]

You should barely notice any discomfort at that schedule, one week is enough for me. I am also at 1mg from 8mg six weeks ago. I hear it's best to go to .5mg then .25 then start trying to skip days or stop taking it completely

 

[pahn]

all i was sayin was that subutex is FAR fucking superior to methadone for pregnant women. ANY fucking doctor, or person with more than 5 fucking brain cells in their head would tell you that. have fun with your retarded children.

 

[thelastclubkid]

WHAT?! i guess the "people you go to group with" are fucking retarded. there is NO FUCKING WAY i'd condone a pregnant woman to take methadone while pregnant. i've seen 3 seperate children who were born from mothers on methadone, and all 3 had birth defects. i'm not saying that suboxone is fine for a pregnant woman to take, HOWEVER, there is such a thing as subutex! for christ sake ppl, do some fucking research before you put your child's life in danger. hell if i was a pregnant woman, i'd quit whatever the fuck i was taking cold turkey no matter what the fuck it was. a good parent ALWAYS puts their child's well being before themself.

you are 100% wrong on this... methadone is actually assoicated with *higher* birth weights in babies... there have been *no* established correlations with methadone and birth defects...

now what studies have shown is that women who are pregnant on methadone also tend to be poly-drug abusers including smoking and drinking...and that *does* cause birth defects... this was the same problem that plagued the 1980's studies that coined the term "crack babies"... the women in the studies were all drinking as well which caused fetal alcohol syndrome..

the only problem with being pregnant on methadone *or* suboxone is that when the baby is born they will need to be detoxed and this will put stress on the child. also there has been little research to show if WD's do or dont cause any long term for babies...

 

[Mr.Scagnattie]

the only problem with being pregnant on methadone *or* suboxone is that when the baby is born they will need to be detoxed and this will put stress on the child. also there has been little research to show if WD's do or dont cause any long term for babies...

Such a sad shitty thing to think about a little baby having to be detoxed off that poison. Fucked up world.

 

[laCster]

I'm going to make myself only take bupre once or twice a week in an effort to get high off bupre again. Fuck the maintenance I'm so over being sober and not getting high. Atleast if I stick with not taking bupre daily and increase the time between doses, ill have the pleasure of being sober and getting high

 

[YellowNikes]

^
i totally agree
whats the best way to be on sub maintenence and to also get high on sub? (lol i know alot of you will say this isnt possible)
my daily dose is like 4-5mgs (1mg IN, a couple times a day)
thing is i still feel a slight "rush" after the 1mg waterlined and then i do feel a buzz that gently fades into nothing after a couple hours.
I want to feel it more though!! should i get my maintence dose down to like 1 or 2mgs a day and then every couple days do like 3mgs all at once?
I highly doubt i would be able to do what the above poster said about abstaining for a couple days, i need the motivation daily for work, school , life..( I know im totally addicted but that is ofcourse why im on sub )

Really i would just love to nod again it feels like its been forever.

 

[laCster]

First 4mg is way to much sub to be snorting IMO. At lower doses like below 1mg, I actually get a stronger more distinct buzz than if I were to take over 2mg because of the ratio of norbup to bupre.

Not a lot of people have done or attempt to do what I am going to do and there is no good way to get high off sub. There is actually no way possible to get high off bupre once you are on maintenance, its just not plausable. The only thing that will help you get high from sub is time, the longer you wait between doses, the more the regular mood lift you get from ORT changes into a high . If you take bupre every other day or every day, there is no way to experience a real high besides taking doses below 1-2mg to get more of an agonist effect from bupre. That's the only way, take less bupre, and increase the time in between doses.

I doubt this next month or so I will get much out of sub, but after having more days off bupre than on bupre I am for sure I will get the magic back, but even then the high fades extremely quick. probably be in slight withdrawal this next month from using bupre, taking 3-5 days off and going through wd and the. Using again after the time wears up.

I am very limited on what I can use to get high because I am probation, so desperate times call for desperate measures. Really this medicine should be solely used for getting off full agonist opiates like heroin, but people are different and I'm tired of being a slave and not getting high. I mean atkeast if I am going to be a slave, I want to be able to get something out of my difficulties. I have been on bupre for almost 7months and at first, bupre was a wonder drug it kept me off opiates which is what I wanted at that time. I was really content with being on sub and I felt that I was gaining a lot from not using other opiates, but at this point in time, being on maintenance isn't cutting it so I want to try and see how I will be off of it.

I am using the excuse that I will be able to abuse to get off. Who knows, maybe I get off and chose to completely sober, but right now the thought of getting high for free basically because I have so much bupre already, not having to fuck around with dealers and money and time is motivating me to change. This next week, I'm an going to keep in mind why I am choosing to go into wd and I c am going to keep my eye on the prize,. When I'm shitting my brains out I will look for the light at the end of the tunnel and push forward .

Idk about you, but when I am adament about getting high, i will stop at nothing to do so. Yes I know, I am going to have my cake, and eat it too. It won't be easy, but the thought of getting high is more enticing than not being in withdrawal

 

[YellowNikes]

Those are very much the main reason I decided to get on bupre (saving money, not having to deal with dealers lol, not having to worry about wds and missing work/school becusse of the wds. But I don't snort 4mgs all at once I do 1 mg insufflated about 4 times a day, and I do catch a buzz every time I do the one mg (the buzz lasts a couple hours and comes on quick. I really am just wondering if I lower my daily amount taken to about 2mgs (.5mg insulfattes a couple times a day, will the buzz become stronger (after, of course, a period of time where hopefully my tolerance will drop ) will the buzz I get then be greater than the buzz I get now of 1mg at a time, due to less bupre on my receptors and the greater possibility of agonist action?
Is that how the whole, less is more concept works?
Sorry if that was a confusing im having a hard time trying to explain myself. (I took .5mgs of alaprolazam along with 2mgs of bupe this morning and the benzo has effected my ability to make sense hahaha)

 

[laCster]

Again the less bupre you take the stronger the buzz will be. There are soooooo many posts about this concept in this thread and all over nluelight and google.

Try taking below 1mg a day. Like 0.5mg two times a day and see how you feel.

 

[YellowNikes]

Okay will do. I've discovered, hardly a discovery, but cannabis helps bunch