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Bupe Suboxone/Buprenorphine FAQ & Megathread v2; 2010

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^yeah, unfortunately you did probably increase the duration of the blockade effect. If you need something to hold you between full agonist doses, you'd be better off with methadone but with your tolerance rising and being unable to support your habit, how sustainable is this anyway?
 
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today is the fourth day with no poop, and i dont feel anything coming. i have not been pooping much lately. maybe 2 times a week. at most, more like once every 3 or 4 days.

I just quit smoking cigarettes a couple days ago, and im thinking that i am going to poop even less now. sometimes after smoking a cigarette i would immediately have to go poop. this may sound unrelated to you guys, but it happened somewhat regularly.

i do not have stomach cramps or any real pain, but i read all the posts earlier about JB and everyone else who has had trouble from not pooping, and i want to take care of the problem before it gets really bad.

i know that i need to change my diet (more fiber), but is there anything i can do rite now? i have a needle-less syringe, anything i can squirt up there? i think i saw someone saying "salt water"?
 
no well i know they do prescribe up to 32 mgs...even when shooting huge amounts of oxy sub always seemed to work but after binging oxymorphone the subs arnt working and im scared to take more and have it do nothing more and just be in my system longer .. i was resently sniffing 120mgs oxymorphone at once and about 240 a day ..i guess you could say that was to keep well ...i did feel good of it but idk if you could say high if i wasnt nodding out at all... im reading no that if you need more then 30-40 mgs of methadone then sub wont work...i recently tried methadone and was taking oxy in the morning and methadone at night 60 mgs for 2 day then the 3rd day of the methadone i took 120mgs without the oxy and that hardly held me


i know its time to throw in towel on opiates sine i no longer get high.... but i dont even have the strength to pick the towel up


You were using a ton of oxymorphone and your tolerance is huge. You just need more bupe and if 32-40mg can't hold you then you just need to suck it up or get on methadone. I know the half-withdrawal feel, I have like 1/6 WD right now with hot and cold flashes at 8mg a day and I have been off full agonists for over a week now. I was using a lot of fentanyl but only for a week prior, and I'm talking about 5mg fent a day.

I had what you were describing with the true half withdrawal about 7-8 months ago when I was going back and forth between bupe and heroin every week but I never tried using more than like 4-6mg bupe because I wanted to get right back on dope as soon as I saw done with my Dr./family.
 
high fiber

lots of water

exercise

proper diet

and only use stool softeners and laxatives when necessary............


and i got my first strip of three today!!!! only need to pick up three times a weeks now...... 3 and 3 and 1

or 3 and 2 and 2, my choice
 
no well i know they do prescribe up to 32 mgs...even when shooting huge amounts of oxy sub always seemed to work but after binging oxymorphone the subs arnt working and im scared to take more and have it do nothing more and just be in my system longer .. i was resently sniffing 120mgs oxymorphone at once and about 240 a day ..i guess you could say that was to keep well ...i did feel good of it but idk if you could say high if i wasnt nodding out at all... im reading no that if you need more then 30-40 mgs of methadone then sub wont work...i recently tried methadone and was taking oxy in the morning and methadone at night 60 mgs for 2 day then the 3rd day of the methadone i took 120mgs without the oxy and that hardly held me


i know its time to throw in towel on opiates sine i no longer get high.... but i dont even have the strength to pick the towel up

From what other people have told me about this, coming off of oxymorphone is a lot harder than heroin, dilaudid, oxycodone apparently, and that's probably why Suboxone isn't doing much for you at the moment.
 
i didn't no that actually, thats interesting...............

ive only had a few experiences with opana....
 
yeah, oxymorphone is usually stronger than heroin. people need to realize that suboxone is only a partial agonist.....methadone is still the best for huge habits and people that have been using for years.

you can still start on done and get down to 30mg and then transfer to subs though. not like you are stuck with done forever.
 
ya, ive been thinking about making the transfer...............

im held perfectly, i just think about dope to much.........
 
well i just got a cane to help me "shuffle" around when I need to do something since I have been having this severe pain issue, partly due to suboxone causing me major constipation, but I also have a slipped disc or something. Still no pain meds.

But I guess im now in the Cane2theLeft Club.
 
well i just got a cane to help me "shuffle" around when I need to do something since I have been having this severe pain issue, partly due to suboxone causing me major constipation, but I also have a slipped disc or something. Still no pain meds.

But I guess im now in the Cane2theLeft Club.

Sorry to hear you don't have pain medication, that really sucks.
 
ya that really does indeed suck, best of luck..................

its just something i think about, i probably wouldn't end up making the switch.........cause i do know that the urges will stop with time.......
 
Sorry to hear you don't have pain medication, that really sucks.

Yea, its pathetic how doctors treat ex drug addicts. I havent eaten in over a week, and I havent slept more than an hour in about 10 days. Ive allready lost 15 pounds(down to 135 from 150) and thats not good cuz I was allready underweight for my height. I look like a zombie, and spend 90% of my time screaming, crying, moaning, in pain ....like, seriously intense pain, and then the other 10% I spend in a painfull haze with a headache because my body can only take so much pain and screaming and stress being put on all my veins and arteries so I end up just wearing myself out so I just lie there breathing heavily, still in the same amount of pain, but not able to muster the energy to scream or cry anymore. Its pathetic. And the doctors still refuse to give me ANY pain meds, and if you can fucking believe it, my psychiatrist is actually cutting my klonopin dose in half because he doesnt want me on that high of a dose(1.5mg's???) and the klonopin was the only thing keeping me from killing myself in a pain-filled rage because it helps relax my muscles. And pretty much the only time I can spend on bluelight is the hour to hour and a half in each day that my klonopin is noticeably working. So now I had to call a friend and buy some more kpins off the streets in order to keep myself from commiting suicide. Its the only reason I can type this post right now.

My family is going to take me to different hospitals tommorow until we find one that is willing to give me pain meds. I swear if it doesnt happen soon I will harm myself, thats how horrible this is.

*FYI, i said I lost 15 pounds....that comes out to almost a pound a day since this thing started. And yet the doctors shrug there shoulders and send me home telling me i shoudlnt be in any pain.

Forgive my ranting.(i also have a 100.9 degree temp)

ya that really does indeed suck, best of luck..................

its just something i think about, i probably wouldn't end up making the switch.........cause i do know that the urges will stop with time.......

I highly reccommend that you stay on suboxone for MANY reasons, but one of the main reasons is because I believe that once you get down to 1mg give or take, maybe less, you will start to really enjoy your suboxone alot more and then your urges and thoughts about using again will go away....thats how it worked for me. I literally get disgusted at the thought of using heroin again, even in all the pain im in now. Being on low dose suboxone has changed my outlook on things so much. I would stick with the subs man and do your best to keep tapering.
 
tomo is actually my last day at 2mg, im going to try for 1mg the following day......

i just boxed up 31 8mg subs...... feels so good to have that many spares.............
 
You should help some people out like I did with my extra subs...you know, how I got 2 of my friends clean and on the right track again. It feels so good to know that you have impacted someones life in a positive way.
One of those friends mom even called me to thank me for getting him clean. She was crying and profusely thanking me, etc....it felt good but kind of sad that she had to go through that. Cuz that family is from El Salvidor and they were VERY poor when they moved here and they still live from paycheck to paycheck with 3 children so you can imagine how much it would hurt the family to have one of her sons a huge heroin addict.
 
ya man, that awesome.....and i actually offered my friend.......

but he has 150mg of done' and is doing a street taper soon.....
 
ya man, that awesome.....and i actually offered my friend.......

but he has 150mg of done' and is doing a street taper soon.....

I hope that works for him.

I just see so much more potential for someones drug using mindset to change if they are on a maintanence drug for an extended period of time, allowing for you to adjust back to living sober. I think that is one of the most important parts of getting clean for most people because peoples lack of self control or will power is what got them into an addiction in the first place, and it takes a long time period of abstinence for your brain to rewire itself back to the way it was before you were an addict(or atleast as close as possible).
 
he has some money, and id have to charge him (meds cost money)

but i wouldn't wanna do it for a long time.... i wanna save up as much as possible

i would help him for a couple weeks.....im being selfish.... but shits expensive......
 
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