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Bupe Suboxone/Buprenorphine FAQ & Megathread v2; 2010

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No you will not feel i the vicodin. Buprenorphine works quite well as a pain killer (far better than hydrocodone IMO) and you can get the most out of it by taking it in small divided doses throughout the day. It works FAR better this way, on so many levels. Sorry about yr tooth pain, hang in there:\
 
suninthenight said:
so for my sub dose I'm supposed to take 8mg a day..I've worked it out so I take 4 in the morning and 4 at night. I took my 4mg this morning (8am) and it's time to take my 4mg for the night, if I skip my dose...might I be able to feel a vic around say 8-10pm, having only taken half of my usual sub dose?

I hope that makes sense...
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nevermind...I'm not gonna use the vics. I can't afford the root canal and am gonna have to have the tooth pulled. WHEN I do that, on Monday, I'm going to be in way worse pain then now, and am going to have to talk w/ the doctors bout it. If I've already fucked up and used the vics, they'll know and they probably won't help me in the next couple of days when I'll really need it more...

If I up my Sub dose...will that help the pain? I hear there's a ceiling, but it's probably not the 8mgs that I'm on right..
 
amanitadine said:
No you will not feel i the vicodin. Buprenorphine works quite well as a pain killer (far better than hydrocodone IMO) and you can get the most out of it by taking it in small divided doses throughout the day. It works FAR better this way, on so many levels. Sorry about yr tooth pain, hang in there:\
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I didn't see your post before I posted. I am gonna try and use the sub for pain control...if 8mg is my rx do you have any idea around what mg might work for pain?

Thanks in advance
 
suninthenight said:
I didn't see your post before I posted. I am gonna try and use the sub for pain control...if 8mg is my rx do you have any idea around what mg might work for pain?

Thanks in advance
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None, the 8mg is way too much to get any effects off the bupe at a lower dose. I would guess .5-1.5mg as long as you have no bupe in your system from maintenance.
 
suninthenight said:
nevermind...I'm not gonna use the vics. I can't afford the root canal and am gonna have to have the tooth pulled. WHEN I do that, on Monday, I'm going to be in way worse pain then now, and am going to have to talk w/ the doctors bout it. If I've already fucked up and used the vics, they'll know and they probably won't help me in the next couple of days when I'll really need it more...

If I up my Sub dose...will that help the pain? I hear there's a ceiling, but it's probably not the 8mgs that I'm on right..
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The ceiling is at about 40mg but 8mg is very close to as effective. The interesting stuff happens with 0-2mg
 
I agree, in that, I find that I feel the positive effects of Bupe in the very low dose range.

Sometimes I do find if I have bad cravings that if I double my dose it will take care of the cravings but will not feel as good as a low dose.

I also find I still notice my daily bupe but it's very very backgroundish.
 
I'm confused. how would I take such small doses of bupe and not go into wd? Or are you saying bupe is good for pain once you've gone off and completed the wd stages?
 
No. What they're saying is, you don't NEED to take huge doses of bupe for it to work. You don't HAVE to take 16-32mg to stave off withdrawals, I know a LOT of people, myself included, that can maintain on 1-2mgs and not suffer any withdrawals.

Once you stabilize on the bupe, start lowering your dose. I've gone from 16mg to 8mg with no issues, then from 8mg to 4mg, etc.

Just do 1-1.5mg and see how you feel. Snort it, if you want. A lot of people do that, myself included.

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Actually you will probably be in less pain after it's pulled. Just dont do any of things like smoke, suck a straw, etc that can cause you to get a dry socket... THEN you will really be in pain!! If you're hurting so much the sub is not helping then the vic's probably wouldn't help either. Been there too and actually had a few extractions & bone graphs with nothing but cataflam-sp??? I feel lucky my dentist was familiar with sub and prescribed a good anti-inflamatory med to get me thru a couple rough days. ICE packs actually help as well as rinsing with very warm salt water. Good luck -JAZ
 
fm1983 said:
WOW! Mega-thread 8! Awesome!



I suggest looking into finding another doctor, you have to jump through way too many hoops IMO. Also, have you ever though about snorting your subs? It is an awesome ROA and you will use much less. I snort mine and use half of what I would have to if I took them under the tongue. Try it out.

Also what was your habit prior to subs? 8mg is a high dose, a lot of us here on the boards don't really use more then 4mg daily. Also, sub doctors are notorious for over-prescribing. I am prescribed at 8mg 2x a day (coming off a 160mg daily oxy habit), but I only use about 2mg. I would try snorting them and droping your dose to 4mg a day, 2mg in the morning and 2mg later in the day. Give that a try and see how it goes. Less is more with subxone and you may find no difference in the way you are feeling with a lower dose snorted.

And welcome to bluelight! Hope to see you around and if you need to talk PM me when you get your post count up.
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talk about dr's over perscribing subs....shit! I first went to my sub dr with a 30-60mg a day habit (granted it use to be a lot higher dose a day all depends on what was around and how much money i had. but towards the end got broke so i did whatever i could afford basically enough to keep from being sick but no where near really ever high) anyways he perscribed me 8mg 2x a day! 16mgs a day for a drug habit of 30-60mgs a day! thats crazy! i hear ppl on here perscribed 16mgs of subs a daywho had a 160+mg a day habit of pills or h w/e there D.O.C (drug of choice) was. Shit I do 2mgs a day sometimes can get away with 1mg and i can skip days so i;ll do 2mg and then wont do any the next day and dont feel too bad!

just thought i'd share my expierence...
*my First post*
 
How do you guys snort suboxone?

After snorting, during the day I am fine, but right when the night rolls around my nose gets severely clogged. I can not breathe out of my nose what so ever. It is 110% clogged up. I try blowing my nose as hard as I can but I can't get any air through there and I end up popping my ears. I would like to snort my bupe as I feel it works better as intended. It's effecting my sleep a lot too. I have had dreams of drowning simply because I will close my mouth during sleep and try to use my nose but not being able to breathe gets associated with my dream. It's really scary and concerning me.

Anyone have similar experiences ?
 
I've been wondering about the long term effects of insufflating Suboxone.

I have found that it's not a good idea to crush it so much that it ends up like talc. (like by using a pipe band, etc. to shave it.) It most definitely ends up in your lungs and that can't be a good thing.

I use a razor blade on glass to chop it into many small pieces then I crush that with the top of a pill bottle. Then I chop it a bit more with the razor blade until it's "perfect".

How much are you taking daily? I'm only taking 2-4 mgs per day intranasal. (Taken in small bumps throughout the day - I haven't had any issues)
 
Quick plugging question: I just plugged my sub. I went to the bathroom a half hour before I plugged, but now I really feel like I have to go again. This feeling has happened before, but it usually goes away after 10-15 min; It's been a half hour since I plugged and I still really feel like I have to go to the point where my stomach is killing me.

If I do go will I waste the sub? If I wait a little longer will it make any difference and allow my body to absorb more of the sub? Because I have to go so bad does it mean the sub was wasted altogether because of fecal absorption?

Thanks.
 
dubSTEP said:
How do you guys snort suboxone?

After snorting, during the day I am fine, but right when the night rolls around my nose gets severely clogged. I can not breathe out of my nose what so ever. It is 110% clogged up. I try blowing my nose as hard as I can but I can't get any air through there and I end up popping my ears. I would like to snort my bupe as I feel it works better as intended. It's effecting my sleep a lot too. I have had dreams of drowning simply because I will close my mouth during sleep and try to use my nose but not being able to breathe gets associated with my dream. It's really scary and concerning me.

Anyone have similar experiences ?
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This is only ~1-2mg TOPS...
 
I've been reading up on here about suboxone and p/w...is it the Naloxone that puts you into p/w or is it the buprenorphine? I caved and went off subs, tried to use the vics for my toothache..took 10 7.5's between 10am yesterday and noon today, 2 pills every four hours. So I'm out now, deciding whens a good time to put myself back on subutex. There's so many posts on here I'm having a hard time figuring if I should wait until around noon tomorrow to dose? or did I take such little doses so far apart that i wouldn't get p/w? or is it only the Naloxone in suboxone that puts you into p/w, so if I'm on Subutex that wouldn't happen? i dunno...
 
^It's the sub, not the naloxone. Once you start feeling w/d's you can pop a sub.That can be anywhere from the 10-24 hour mark, depending on your metabolism.
 
^^^ We are doing terrific besides that fact that we have to take a nasty orange pill everyday to feel 'normal'.....what a fucking life...
 
So I have to wait until I'm in somesort of WD to take these subs?

I've never taken them before and don't really know how they work..
 
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