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Bupe Suboxone/Buprenorphine FAQ & Megathread v2; 2010

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^hah, I do equations like that all the time in my head, I think you're spot on, but then again, its kind of impossible to know exactly how much you're really absorbing. I know when I went from I.V 1 mg to snorting 1 mg, I could definately feel the difference. However, I've been stubborn, and refused to take more than a mg a day no matter the ROA. I actually found it easier to adjust to this dose when sniffing than I have when I've tapered in the past.

At a dose of 1 mg suboxone a day (snorted) would it be correct to say that bupe's blocking ability at this point has more to do with cross tolerance than actually blocking of the receptors? surely it should be easy to break through.
 
Hi everyone. I have been clean off dope for about 11 months and suboxone for about 7. Today morning i shot up 1mg of suboxone. i have virtually no opiate tolerance at all now. Would i be able to shoot up say a quarter- half bag of dope tomorrow at the 24 hr mark and feel the full effects? I know its stupid that i shot the bupe, but i found a bag of d while cleaning my room. I use to shoot 6 bags a day about a year ago. how long should i wait to feel full effects?
 
Hello friends, long time no see. The last post i did here was in the suboxone megathread v3.0....

Anyway, I'm glad to say that i just finally kicked my suboxone maintenance today. I hopped off at 1mg twice a day, which isnt the lowest and best dose to stop at, but it's all i could get to. Anywhere lower and i seem to just be in minor withdrawals between doses--it just wears off too fast.

I have a bunch of .1mg clonidine tabs to help me quit. However, i have pretty low blood pressure naturally (my lowest was 94/64, i think, if thats the right number set up). I'm a little worried they will make me feint if i take a whole one, so i will probably start at 1/4th of a tablet, as i'm not too far into withdrawal yet, and want to get familiar with how it effects my body. However, would i probably be safe taking a whole pill? My doctor said i should wait a whole 24 hours after my last suboxone dose, but i'm 12 hours past and i really don't think it's much of an issue. What do you all think?

I think i'm ready for this though, and i am very happy to start on the road of being suboxone free. I've been about a year and a half off everything but suboxone, and i feel ready.

Thanks for any responses, and it's nice to be back.
 
Hi Pink~cloud, glad your back. I hope you get some responses cause I need to hear the same info.
I am so mad and depressed that I am being forced off sub b/c by stupid doctor wont prescribe it and it's taking a month to get in with another doctor so I also jumped off at the same amt. you did. I have some kpins, lortabs, baclofen, and so far since I ran out last week..... NOTHING IS HELPING WTF!!!! So Please please please i am begging for someone to chime in here and tell me something that's gonna get me through this month before I go back and score some H!!! This fing sux on so many levels. I've suffered & toughed it out for a week, changed my underwear every couple hours, went with zero sleep and only bitched a little... but when the pharmacy told me today that my script was not there and then the doctor told me I was outta luck I wanted to kill someone..... me!
 
pink cloud: i have been on suboxone for 3 years and there have been many times that i felt ready to get off of them, the trick is wait one more month and if you still feel ready to get off of them, then you are probly ready, i always do that to myself.. when i feel im ready to stop i continue for another month and there's always a time i say to myself "im so glad i didn't stop" for varying reasons. thats my .02
good luck
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EDIT: but you already stopped.. might as well keep goin.
 
PinK~cloud said:
Hello friends, long time no see. The last post i did here was in the suboxone megathread v3.0....

Anyway, I'm glad to say that i just finally kicked my suboxone maintenance today. I hopped off at 1mg twice a day, which isnt the lowest and best dose to stop at, but it's all i could get to. Anywhere lower and i seem to just be in minor withdrawals between doses--it just wears off too fast.

I have a bunch of .1mg clonidine tabs to help me quit. However, i have pretty low blood pressure naturally (my lowest was 94/64, i think, if thats the right number set up). I'm a little worried they will make me feint if i take a whole one, so i will probably start at 1/4th of a tablet, as i'm not too far into withdrawal yet, and want to get familiar with how it effects my body. However, would i probably be safe taking a whole pill? My doctor said i should wait a whole 24 hours after my last suboxone dose, but i'm 12 hours past and i really don't think it's much of an issue. What do you all think?

I think i'm ready for this though, and i am very happy to start on the road of being suboxone free. I've been about a year and a half off everything but suboxone, and i feel ready.

Thanks for any responses, and it's nice to be back.
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Congratulations! Glad to see you're still here and doing well. :)
 
jazzyhope said:
Hi Pink~cloud, glad your back. I hope you get some responses cause I need to hear the same info.
I am so mad and depressed that I am being forced off sub b/c by stupid doctor wont prescribe it and it's taking a month to get in with another doctor so I also jumped off at the same amt. you did. I have some kpins, lortabs, baclofen, and so far since I ran out last week..... NOTHING IS HELPING WTF!!!! So Please please please i am begging for someone to chime in here and tell me something that's gonna get me through this month before I go back and score some H!!! This fing sux on so many levels. I've suffered & toughed it out for a week, changed my underwear every couple hours, went with zero sleep and only bitched a little... but when the pharmacy told me today that my script was not there and then the doctor told me I was outta luck I wanted to kill someone..... me!
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Oh no Jazzy that's horrible! :(

Try taking doxylamine / diphenhydramine to help.

I would say move to an area with more doctors but I know that's not always an option.

Good luck!
 
I've never tried either of these myself, but it seems a lot of people use (imodium like you said above) or they use kratom or poppy pods. I suppose some might think it counter productive, but I've read a lot of people using those to help get off suboxone. What dosage are you on btw? If you have enough subs to ween down to about .5 mg a day, you could probably then switch on to the hydro for a little while until you can find another doctor to relieve your w/d symptoms. I find that it takes about 5 days to get well adjusted to a lower dosage, but your lucky because you have kpins which you can use for the times of the day that you are feeling the deficit.

I admire you pink cloud for stopping. I was going to try and just quit my suboxone last week, but after about 2 days of going without, I couldn't stand it and just settled to take a lower dose and stick with that. I just can't stand the w/d and PAWS, not because it makes me feel physically so shitty, but just because I can't seem to make myself do anything. I like to be an active productive person, and when I stop taking my suboxone, it's like the depression and anxiety cripple me!
 
I just saw someone smoking Suboxone (chasing the dragon). How dangerous is this? He swears doing it makes it a bit stronger than snorting it. Obviously smoking anything with tin foil isn't great for you, but could some BL drug nerds tell me if there are any particular binders/fillers in Suboxone pills that make this ROA more dangerous than others?
 
hmmmm so I've been taking subs daily for 3 months, I used to get a small long lasting high from them that really helped me as far as depression and what not, now that I dont get it im starting to get depressed about it. I take usually 2-4 mg a day, once when I wake up and once later on in the day(I snort it). Would injecting it maybe get that high back temporarily?I have a small 1-2 mg chunk here I think I'm gonna try it, even though I actually feel pretty ok right now, my pupils are actually kind of small which is rare these days. If I don't try it now tho I wanna try it for my next dose. I think maybe a buildup of suboxone and mucus in my nostrils is causing it to not absorb as well
 
jazzyhope said:
Hi Pink~cloud, glad your back. I hope you get some responses cause I need to hear the same info.
I am so mad and depressed that I am being forced off sub b/c by stupid doctor wont prescribe it and it's taking a month to get in with another doctor so I also jumped off at the same amt. you did. I have some kpins, lortabs, baclofen, and so far since I ran out last week..... NOTHING IS HELPING WTF!!!! So Please please please i am begging for someone to chime in here and tell me something that's gonna get me through this month before I go back and score some H!!! This fing sux on so many levels. I've suffered & toughed it out for a week, changed my underwear every couple hours, went with zero sleep and only bitched a little... but when the pharmacy told me today that my script was not there and then the doctor told me I was outta luck I wanted to kill someone..... me!
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Why has your doctor kicked you off like that?

Doesn't sound particulary ethical to me.

If you really are suffering (and I know exactly what bupe wd feels like), and the meds you have aren't helping - then the best thing I can think off would be to save the meds you have, go to a methadone clinic - and have them start you on just 5mg methadone a day for a month until you can see a new doctor and get subs.

You could stop the meth 3 days before your appointment and use the meds that you SAVED to help get you through...

Thats what I would do. It sucks, but its better than scoring smack when you're this close to being clean.;)

Best of luck mate.
 
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yeah, you're definitely gonna get that high back, TEMPorarily. I wouldn't recommend to IV anything to anyone. I know if you set your mind to something, there's not much you can do to talk one out of it. Still, I gotta say IV administration is highly addictive. And furthermore, it's not worth trying to take subox IV, to get a >real< high with it. I'm talking out of personal xperience. I'd say read captain heroin's posts if you wanna try it that way, cause he's using 0.1mg IV and it's pretty effective that way I gotta say.
 
hmmm well I did iv a chunk about the size i usually snort possibly a little less, around 1.5 mg I would say, I'm kinda disappointed I don't really feel any more then I would if snorted.

My problem I think came from switching to snorting it once a day to snorting it twice a day, I guess I was just trying to make the mild high I got last all day instead of for just a few hours after I dose, which basically raised my dose from 2mg a day to 4 a day, I think maybe I need to do more at once now because since sub last so long I might have to do what I usually do in a day at once If I wanna feel the "high". Think I might switch to snorting my daily dose at once rather then twice a day and see if that helps.

I got dropped from my sub doctor for missing 2 appointments in a row so I have to start tapering soon anyways as I only have less then 1 script left. Would snorting some salt water help clean out my nose and increase absorption?

Took me a while to type this and the effects have increased a little I guess, so maybe it works a little better then snorting idk....I think I just need to get out of the house haha I haven't done anything but sit on my ass at home since saturday and its making me feel dull

edit 2- ugghhh I think my pupils actually got bigger since i did the shot, its only been 2.5 hours. What its it with this drug it such a weird drug you would think taking more after 8-10 hours after your first dose by a more potent and direct route(iv) would increase the effects, guess not, and the effects seem to be so random one day I'll feel kinda high another day Ill feel like it's not even working very well with the same dose. Guess I'm just gonna snort it from now on as I think I was addicted to snorting my daily orange lines
 
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Turns out my doctor did not have the special DEA license to prescribe it and did not even realize it was needed. I knew it but the pharmacy never questioned and filled it anyway. Some pharmacist told him yesterday so he decided to cut everyone off. You idea about methadone is appealing... even after getting down to 1-2mg a day this stuff is a bitch to get off. Thanks
 
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I have been through what you describe. I've tried all sorts of ways to get off on my suboxone, and the only thing that ever seems to work is to stick to a lower dosage. I either snort 1 mg a day, or shoot .5 mg a day, and i always get that lift that some might call a high. Sometime's it is more pronounced than others, but I promise you, that raising your dosage will not get you a better effect, and in the long run, if you stay on a high dosage of suboxone, you most likely will not feel anything from it. It's a hard mentality for an addict to think less is more, but with subs, it's the total truth. Also, if you're going to I.V it, you should check out the BA thread. You will only have to shoot about half as much as you snort, though I do dosages even lower. 1.5 mg I.V suboxone is too much to bang IMO, I'd start off with .5 mg/shot max. you don't want to raise your tolerance.
 
I slept last night ???? I dunno what is going on with my body. I go from screaming to crying to lying in a fetal position grasping my limps tightly trying to keep my arms and legs still... but I slept last night. I was so sick I dont even remember what I took but it has to be a combo of baclophen & kpins & tabs. But I sleep for 12 hours. My eyes are so swollen I cant hardly see to type but I wanted to post and ask does this mean I have crossed into a new area of detox when sleep is possible? I sure dont wanna do this again, that's for sure. thanks BLERS
 
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