This is dirceted towards all but especially captain H. I have a propesity to sweat alot (hyperhydrosis) made worse by methadone when I was on it. I am on about 12 mg bupe a day (sometimes I take 24 mg when I'm need extra energy). Anyway, it seemed that it was making me sweat more. Am I the only person on this board to experience this? The good news in all this is that he Rx'd me cogentin which seems to work wonders for the sweating at 1 mg BID. Plus it (according to wiki) blocks the reuptake of DA so might have a unintended additional therapeutic effect on my depression (anxious depression.) ( fyi- suboxone lifted me out of major depression like no drug I had ever tried (SSRIs and buproprion). And the therapeutic latency was much shorter. (I got on the drug not to get off opiates but as an attempt to treat my refractory depression- long story). So back to question (anyone else get the methadonesque sweating from bupe?
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a question, and forgive me if it's already been answered in here.... but i did some dedicated searching, and i didn't quite find the answer
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i'm having a little trouble with half-lives. i am s'posed to take 16mg of suboxone per day, but sometimes i skip two days... usually i take as little as possible, sometimes none, sometimes only 4mg.... i just take enough to show 16mg when i'm gonna get tested
i want to do a shot of dope. let's say i took my test, and had 16mg in me. from that minute forward, how long would it be before i could catch a good high?
thanks in advance.
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i'm having a little trouble with half-lives. i am s'posed to take 16mg of suboxone per day, but sometimes i skip two days... usually i take as little as possible, sometimes none, sometimes only 4mg.... i just take enough to show 16mg when i'm gonna get tested
i want to do a shot of dope. let's say i took my test, and had 16mg in me. from that minute forward, how long would it be before i could catch a good high?
thanks in advance.
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With 16mg in your system I would say you should wait 36-48 hours.-DG
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wow, that's it?? see, i was thinking it was at least a week or something.... that's fucking cool.
thank you, man. good to know..
thank you, man. good to know..
Mandatory17
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I was tested one time and one time only, the first time I went to my doctor so he could make sure I was actually on the said drugs that required suboxone treatment in the first place. I guess it really does vary from place to place?
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hah well i am on 2mg bupe daily. some say this is a low dose. but i still need at least 100mg of methadone or 200mg oc to catch any high. i shouldve said i would need somewhere 25-35mg of hydromorph
but ive got a few questions also for qwhoever can answer
ok so i know there is stuff in subutex that u dont want in your veins and can be filtered thru a cotton. if u mix up the substance with the end of the plunger and not wash it off before sucking up the solution is that enufff unfiltered material to harm u?
also,
ive heard from numerous people that subutex is getting takin off the market. is there any credibility to that claim?
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If you are going to IV subutex you SHOULD REALLY get a micro filter to do the job. God injecting pills is so terrible without using micro it just grosses me out nowadays. Using cotton, I'd filter at least a few times, and this will not be enough at all, so don't make it a habit (har har).
About subutex being taken off the market. If subutex was getting taken off the market I am assumming suboxone is too. I haven't read anything about it but I have a friend in Philly that told me about how he gets generic bupe now and not suboxone or subutex, as of a few weeks ago at least.
About subutex being taken off the market. If subutex was getting taken off the market I am assumming suboxone is too. I haven't read anything about it but I have a friend in Philly that told me about how he gets generic bupe now and not suboxone or subutex, as of a few weeks ago at least.
update:
hey guys, been awhile.... Just wanted to let you know --- sober from suboxone for a year solid. (maintained on 8mg down to 1-2mg of suboxone a day for 3 years)
Feels great to feel agaiN! sometimes I miss suboxone, and other opiates too. Its a struggle when some random fellow univ. student shows me a pill/bottle
But qutting suboxone isn't as hard as you might anticipate. When I finally dropped it for good, I felt hardly any truly agitating symptoms. Go for it!
hey guys, been awhile.... Just wanted to let you know --- sober from suboxone for a year solid. (maintained on 8mg down to 1-2mg of suboxone a day for 3 years)
Feels great to feel agaiN! sometimes I miss suboxone, and other opiates too. Its a struggle when some random fellow univ. student shows me a pill/bottle
But qutting suboxone isn't as hard as you might anticipate. When I finally dropped it for good, I felt hardly any truly agitating symptoms. Go for it!
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motiv, congrats on a year off subbies! i can't imagine not being on them, but kudos to you for doing it!! 
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Yes I get the sweating ridiculously, I have never had methadone but when I hit the gym (almost daily) I have to have a towel wiping my face, underarms, back and neck every minute or two or I literally am soaked, not to mention the dehydration. I am on 4mg per day and 8mg double dose but miss the following day twice a week.
Would love to hear more, my sub doctor has said nothing will help, however I believe he has just not been educated enough.
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Good luck. Congrats on making the decision to jump on suboxone. In my opinion its far and away the best method to get off of opioids.
Please keep us updated as to how it goes. Ill be interested to hear how high of a dose your doc puts you on.
Also, Im not sure what your insurance situation is, but if you are going to have to pay out of pocket for your medication, you really should ask your doc if he can put you on subutex instead of suboxone. The reason for this is that they are now making a generic subutex and it is ALOT cheaper then name brand suboxone. Some docs dont like to put people on subutex, but its worth it to ask.-DG
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i have been wondering.... let's say you had some opiates in your system. i know that if you take suboxone while you've got opiates in you, it will put you into withdrawal... correct? yer sposed to take it 24 hours after your last dose, right?
well, when you go into withdrawals because of the suboxone, is the opiate actually leaving your system? like, would it show up in a test? or is it still in your blood and pee, and just being booted from the receptors in your brain?
i'm wondering cus it would be great if suboxone acted as a quik-fix detox.... i kinda doubt it, but it's a thought.
also...... someone (daddysgone) just informed me that with 16mg of suboxone in me, i should wait 36-48 hours if i want to do some dope.... is that period longer if you've been taking suboxone (kind of on and off) for a few months? (from these questions you get a good idea of my situation i think, haha.... it's been months since i did any dope, and i kinda want to)
well, when you go into withdrawals because of the suboxone, is the opiate actually leaving your system? like, would it show up in a test? or is it still in your blood and pee, and just being booted from the receptors in your brain?
i'm wondering cus it would be great if suboxone acted as a quik-fix detox.... i kinda doubt it, but it's a thought.
also...... someone (daddysgone) just informed me that with 16mg of suboxone in me, i should wait 36-48 hours if i want to do some dope.... is that period longer if you've been taking suboxone (kind of on and off) for a few months? (from these questions you get a good idea of my situation i think, haha.... it's been months since i did any dope, and i kinda want to)
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It doesn't act as a "fast detox".
It simply removes the other opioids from your receptors, it doesn't eliminate the opioids from your system any faster.....sorry.
Regardless of how long youve been on suboxone, 36-48 hours is about the right time-frame if you want good effects from another opioid.
However let me say that its entirely possible that you might feel effects from opioids if you tried to take them earlier, however the effects will almost certainly be diminished to some degree.-DG
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thanks for your answers, DG.... this is helpful.
one more query (sorry if i seem like a pesky child, but the will to know absorbs the will to avoid embarrassment)....... when doing dope through suboxone, "shooting through," does shooting make the effect more pronounced than sniffing? i'm wondering because i don't know if the better high from shooting is just cus of the faster onset, or if less is actually taken into you through the mucosal (sp.?) membranes... like is shooting actually more potent... or is it just the rush, the quick onset, that makes it feel that way?
edit: bah, i'm an idiot. i should just stay on the suboxone and be straight. i have several months clean. what am i doing asking this stuff? i'm teasing myself. i'm gonna stick to the suboxone and be straight.
one more query (sorry if i seem like a pesky child, but the will to know absorbs the will to avoid embarrassment)....... when doing dope through suboxone, "shooting through," does shooting make the effect more pronounced than sniffing? i'm wondering because i don't know if the better high from shooting is just cus of the faster onset, or if less is actually taken into you through the mucosal (sp.?) membranes... like is shooting actually more potent... or is it just the rush, the quick onset, that makes it feel that way?
edit: bah, i'm an idiot. i should just stay on the suboxone and be straight. i have several months clean. what am i doing asking this stuff? i'm teasing myself. i'm gonna stick to the suboxone and be straight.
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He is putting me on Suboxone 8 mg 2x/day. He said he put down for the generic. I believe BC/BS covers it.
He also gave me Trazadone for sleep, Propranolol for restless leg, and 10 Valium, which I was surprised by.
He was so kind and understanding, and didnt have enough good things to say about Suboxone. I'm picking up the prescription tomorrow so I am hoping these 4 medications won't cost me a fortune
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That would be a huge breach of privacy if they did that.
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^ no they don't, I don't think that's legal..
When I had insurance through my employer I used to get my subs and about 10 other meds filled a month and my employer had no clue. Well some people I worked with did, only because we were friends and we all knew what each other had for meds cuz we would share lol, but no.. the insurance company won't tell your employer what meds or what kind of Dr. appointments you have.
When I had insurance through my employer I used to get my subs and about 10 other meds filled a month and my employer had no clue. Well some people I worked with did, only because we were friends and we all knew what each other had for meds cuz we would share lol, but no.. the insurance company won't tell your employer what meds or what kind of Dr. appointments you have.
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Another Bluelight user has described this - hyperhydrosis happens on Suboxone for some people. I am not one of them, but I am sorry for this.
Buprenorphine is a wonderful antidepressant! I'm glad it works well for you.
I would try a lower dose, like 2mg intervals going down each day until you feel uncomfortable. You can probably get to 8mg without much pain, so you can compare how much you sweat to how much you do on 12 to 24 milligrams.
If it gets no better, it may be a reaction to the presence of buprenorphine in your system. If it gets better, it may be dose-related, meaning slowly taper and it should get better for you.
Talking to your doctor about options other than what you take orally would be a good idea, from what I remember though, there are limited things you can do. If the hyperhydrosis is limited to a specific area (some people experience hyperhydrosis due to genetic influence, without using drugs) you can use topical stuff (simliar to the active ingredient in deodorant if I remember correctly).
I cannot tell if it's dose related, from what I know, only one other Bluelight user has experienced this and reported it. Then again, I am sure that not all Bluelight users who are on Suboxone post in this thread.
Good luck!
You don't have to wait until the drug is fully out of your system. While on buprenorphine, you can use other full agonist opiates.
To get "the most effect" or, at least, "closest to the most effect with the least effort/pain", DG's recommendation is good.
However, when you aren't consistently taking 16mg of buprenorphine, the overall levels in your system may not reflect that you're taking 16mg per day regularly, even if you do it once before the urine analysis.
Then again, drug tests are inherently flawed (false positives and false negatives), so I don't think doctors should use them on patients.
Just wash off the plunger with isopropanol/water if you must!
No, Subutex is not getting taken off the market, that would never happen. Too many people with naloxone sensitivities (which, in reality, is less than 1% of people who take buprenorphine, probably 0.1% to 0.5% at the most).
I have only been on buprenorphine for 1.5 years so far (as far as I'm aware?) - so I'll let you know if I try to go for it any time soon.
I'm really glad youve been a year clean from Suboxone that's really great news man! Congrats! :D %)
Congratulations Ashley! I hope you get the Suboxone you need!
Good luck and let us know how it goes for you.
He is putting me on Suboxone 8 mg 2x/day. He said he put down for the generic. I believe BC/BS covers it.
He also gave me Trazadone for sleep, Propranolol for restless leg, and 10 Valium, which I was surprised by.
He was so kind and understanding, and didnt have enough good things to say about Suboxone. I'm picking up the prescription tomorrow so I am hoping these 4 medications won't cost me a fortune
You can use the Valium for anxiety and sleep, I would skip the trazadone. It makes me personally sleep in a lot and feel shitty; that's why I avoid all TCA's, including trazadone.
It would be better not to use Valium for sleep every night though.
Good luck!
Do not worry!
You qualify as a recovering drug addict, and are therefore protected under the Americans with Disabilities act.
[/quote]Paragraph (a)(2)(i) specifies that an individual who has successfully completed a supervised drug rehabilitation program or has otherwise been rehabilitated successfully and who is not engaging in current illegal use of drugs is protected. Paragraph (a)(2)(ii) clarifies that an individual who is currently participating in a supervised rehabilitation program and is not engaging in current illegal use of drugs is protected. Paragraph (a)(2)(iii) provides that a person who is erroneously regarded as engaging in current illegal use of drugs, but who is not engaging in such use, is protected. [/quote]
http://www.ada.gov/reg2.html
I know people who have been wrongly accused of using drugs, so the Americans with Disabilities act protects you. Your employer cannot fire you, unless they don't mind paying the government to pay you unemployment money because you were wrongly fired!
Another point that I was going to make; no one can tell your employer that you're on Suboxone (that is, your doctor and the facility you visit - if you tell friends/family/others that you're on Suboxone, they can tell your job secretly, and then fire you for another BS reason). I don't mean to be this serious about it, but if you tell no one other than your doctor you're on Suboxone (PS he knows anyways!), you will be 100% fine.
And, as long as you don't reveal your identity (like your full name) on Bluelight, nor your location/etc, your identity is protected.
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