Bupe Suboxone/Buprenorphine FAQ & Megathread v2; 2010

[Captain.Heroin]

i also iv my subs and am down to .5mg a shot and shoot about 4 times a day.. im planning on lowering to get to CH's level but it seems harder for me than it did for him.. anything less than .5mg/500mcg doesn't make me feel any better (especially when i get up in the morning).. so im gonna keep my morning dose at 500mcg and drop my other doses during the day to 400mcg and then drop morning dose to 400mcg after a week or so.. then let myself stabilize. and then keep morning dose at 400mcg, and drop daytime doses to 300mcg and eventually move my morning dose down to that also and let myself stabilize. and continue until i feel im as low as i can go. for some reason i dont think ill be able to get to 100mcg. but i have all the time i need so anything can happen. btw i find iving to be the best way to take subs IMO (micron filtered of course) i make 1mg per ml/cc solutions in a 30ml/cc vial every week or two. i find the whole process fun to do actually.

Micron filtering is fun!

I'm glad you're finding tapering possible. It took me a while to get to where I am now, but it is doable.

Good luck with the taper man! Keep us updated. For the moment I have stopped tapering because I have gotten to a point in my life where I have a lot of issues to deal with and I'm not sure what I'm facing. I want to make sure I don't go off the deep end in any literal or figurative way. So at the moment I am stabilizing on my dose still.

You may not think you can go to 100mcg, but if you take your time (it may take days, months, or years, I've been doing this for over a whole year now to get to where I am today) it should be a pretty comfortable process. Minus a few days here or there that I was unable to IV, I had a very comfortable tapering process.

I started at a point where I woke up with moderate withdrawal symptoms every day, and now I'm at a point where I wake up with light (sometimes few if any) withdrawal symptoms. I'm really glad I did taper (albeit slowly, over time) because I can't imagine waking up as sick as I used to be anymore. I'm really glad that I have stopped using overall, buprenorphine is a great recovery tool.

You guys are fuckin hardcore man, LOL at iving with the 22g you would bleed to death, ok if your veins were like rope, young geezer please pm me (I'm not a stalker).

For your information, no one would IV with a 22g. That would be difficult, if not impossible.

22g needle tips are used for micron filtering. I know most of you all (even if you do inject) don't micron filter, so I don't expect you to understand the process (even though I have posted the method including pictures in its own thread, so you can see exactly what the 22g needle tips are used for - and they're not for IVing 8)).

I only use 31g needle tips for IVing.

Sorry for the delay in replying, I've been busy & hadn't had a chance to get back to you.
I've used suboxone for all the reasons you listed actually.
Well now I mostly use it as a tide me over when I don't have other opiates.
I have had back pain for about a year or so and abdominal pain for 6 months plus.
Due to my lack of insurance and a few other factors I began self medicating with opiates.
12 G's in medical testing that I luckily (after much stress & finagling) got covered by the hospital & not finding answers being one of them.
I continue to do so, as without opiates my quality of life due to said pain is not what I would like it to be.
Eventually I would like to get insurance, proper medical treatment and/or prescriptions that I feel I need.
Sadly that is not possible at this moment in time.
Now, considering the time frame I listed, you can probably guess that by now I'm physically dependent.
I also have definite psychological based cravings as well.
This might be due to the fact I've had depression/anxiety issues since I was a child.
The mental effects of opiates obviously also greatly appeal to me as a result.

So to better answer your question my most common use of Suboxone now is to stave off w/d when I'm out of my DOC.
However, some days I use it rather than my DOC if I'm looking for the different effects suboxone provides or for it's duration.
Due to the fact I've kept my tolerance at a level that is relatively low considering duration of use (IMHO anyways ),
I still get most of the euphoria, anti-depressant and other beneficial effects from low dose suboxone.
So overall I find it to be a versatile substance with a multitude of uses.
As such I use it for various reasons outside of my most common one.

Sorry if the reply is a bit long winded but I figured the information posted would help explain my answer & thanks for asking.

I'm really sorry to hear about your back and abdominal pain! You have no idea why you're in pain? Even after extensive testing? I am so sorry! That's rather unfortunate.

Buprenorphine does have many great uses, and I'm glad it works out well for you. I'm primarily using buprenorphine for maintenance, tapering, and getting high (since heroin did not work out for me - obviously). Buprenorphine does have some analgesic properties. It's not something that enables people to be fully without pain (unless your pain is limited I guess) but it sure does help take the edge off.

Take care Industrial Strength!

 

[amblerg]

I was a heroin user for two years, using strong east coast powder IV mulitple times daily.
I have since quit dope and been clean 8 months.
Recently, i did some subutex and it fuckin rocked me. nods that lasted hours upon hours. using only the smallest pieces of an 8mg.
be careful with this shit.

 

[Captain.Heroin]

I was a heroin user for two years, using strong east coast powder IV mulitple times daily.
I have since quit dope and been clean 8 months.
Recently, i did some subutex and it fuckin rocked me. nods that lasted hours upon hours. using only the smallest pieces of an 8mg.
be careful with this shit.

Yeah, you posted that in the recreational subs thread too.

You are correct though, buprenorphine is some potent stuff. %)

 

[fistful_of_needles]

"yeah it'd have been a great IV combo, but I already had enough of those....btw LOPRAZOLAM SNORTED FTW!!! Especially with a bupe blanket I get 2mg pills that are tiny as fuck!"

Glad I'm not the only one who thinks LOPRAZOLAM snorted is amazing,specially when combined with Bupre...are you using those yellow-ish Dormonoct tabs as well?

 

[jon420]

I just snorted about .15mg, i have a mild/moderate opiate tolerance.

Guess I snorted about 15-20 minutes ago I'm starting to feel a little mood lift but nothing that profound, yet. How long till I peak snorted?

thanks

 

[jon420]

dam i fuckin love these, like methadone :D

 

[jon420]

I ended up puking three times from these. I'm still kinda high, but functionally so. I took them just under 5 hours ago. After 3 hours I just passed out and ended up nodding hard for an hour. And all from 1.5mg! I paid £X for ten of these, so thats gonna work out at like X pence, (X cents) a high!

That's tremendously economical for me, fuck to get the same from Oxycontin I would need to pay SIXTY times as much! No exaggeration, jeez subutex is so cheap its great :D

 

[Transcendence]

I ended up puking three times from these. I'm still kinda high, but functionally so. I took them just under 5 hours ago. After 3 hours I just passed out and ended up nodding hard for an hour. And all from 1.5mg! I paid £X for ten of these, so thats gonna work out at like X pence, (X cents) a high!

That's tremendously economical for me, fuck to get the same from Oxycontin I would need to pay SIXTY times as much! No exaggeration, jeez subutex is so cheap its great :D

Yeah, tell me about it. I'm surprised recreational sub use isn't more popular. It's sure not as euphoric as oxy, but the long duration makes up for it in my opinion. It's not nearly as psychologically addicting as full-agonists. And for christ's sake it's literally a cheaper habit than coffee. I have a feeling this stuff is going to be in my life for a while. Great for anxiety too, and there doesn't seem to be any rebound.

 

[n0th1ng]

Hello BL

i know this has been asked and answered before but couldnt find it, how many hours should i wait to shoot dope and feel its effects after my last doze of bupe?(4mg)

 

[jon420]

Hi,

had my first experience with bupe last night, snorted like .2mg. Turns out this was too much--after about 7 hours from dosing I just started being sick for like the next 8 hours! Was horrible. By how much should I reduce by dose of Bupe when I take it again to make sure I don't get sick. I was thinking about snorting .1mg, would this be a sufficent reduction?

 

[fistful_of_needles]

Hello BL

i know this has been asked and answered before but couldnt find it, how many hours should i wait to shoot dope and feel its effects after my last doze of bupe?(4mg)

It just may vary from person to person but on 4mgs I can use dope ,say,10 hours after and feel it pretty decently,ideally you should wait until you start feeling the need to have any opiate in you before dosing up(around the 24hour mark for me (on 4mgs)).

 

[n0th1ng]

It just may vary from person to person but on 4mgs I can use dope ,say,10 hours after and feel it pretty decently,ideally you should wait until you start feeling the need to have any opiate in you before dosing up(around the 24hour mark for me (on 4mgs)).

Thanks.

 

[fistful_of_needles]

Thanks.

I'm lucky I'm one of those who doesn't have strong urges while on bupre ...as a matter of fact I reckon that after a while on Bupre one unconsciously ends up changing his DOC as in these days I have this strong feeling that I'd rather be on my daily dose of Subutex than H... is that any measure of progress towards sobriety?Not too sure to tell you the truth,once I feel it's time to taper down I'll probbaly find the answers.

 

[Captain.Heroin]

I'm lucky I'm one of those who doesn't have strong urges while on bupre ...as a matter of fact I reckon that after a while on Bupre one unconsciously ends up changing his DOC as in these days I have this strong feeling that I'd rather be on my daily dose of Subutex than H... is that any measure of progress towards sobriety?Not too sure to tell you the truth,once I feel it's time to taper down I'll probbaly find the answers.

It depends. I like heroin better for an occasional "high" but buprenorphine for chronic usage. I haven't used heroin in a long time though, mostly because I don't like coming down or having to wait for WD's.

I know people who like buprenorphine more than heroin, and would steal for it to put it bluntly. I never stole for heroin, as an example.

 

[The Young Geezer]

"yeah it'd have been a great IV combo, but I already had enough of those....btw LOPRAZOLAM SNORTED FTW!!! Especially with a bupe blanket I get 2mg pills that are tiny as fuck!"

Glad I'm not the only one who thinks LOPRAZOLAM snorted is amazing,specially when combined with Bupre...are you using those yellow-ish Dormonoct tabs as well?

Right on the Aventis Dormonoct's 2mg tiny yellow ones with a sweet drip.....I IV'd 13 pills in less than 24hours....got another script today, lol I'm using Chile's Earthquake as an excuse to get strong scripts at ER's and it works so well I could ask for oxys.....but I only ask for the shit I do nowadays...I still have a blister of Dormonoct to IV tomorrow with my bupe my breakfast is a snorted line of 2mg loprazolam and 1mg bupe as of late....but since I started IVing again and I'm using self extracted bupe I lowered the IV bupe to around 0.5-0.3...dormonocts on the other hand the more you IV the better the rush, I IV'd 6mgs after 1mg of snorted bupe and it felt GREAT!!!

Obrigado 4 Dormonoct

 

[Captain.Heroin]

Right on the Aventis Dormonoct's 2mg tiny yellow ones with a sweet drip.....I IV'd 13 pills in less than 24hours....got another script today, lol I'm using Chile's Earthquake as an excuse to get strong scripts at ER's and it works so well I could ask for oxys.....but I only ask for the shit I do nowadays...I still have a blister of Dormonoct to IV tomorrow with my bupe my breakfast is a snorted line of 2mg loprazolam and 1mg bupe as of late....but since I started IVing again and I'm using self extracted bupe I lowered the IV bupe to around 0.5-0.3...dormonocts on the other hand the more you IV the better the rush, I IV'd 6mgs after 1mg of snorted bupe and it felt GREAT!!!

Obrigado 4 Dormonoct

I recently tried loprazolam. I found 0.3mg IV'd was the perfect sweet spot for me, and it lasts a lot longer than midazolam.

I only like temazepam more than loprazolam. Dormonoct sure is great! :D

 

[needlejuice]

is it normal to be able to go 24 hours without feeling withdrawal if you dose 1mg of bupe(IV) a day? i literally have to wait 24 hours to dose or i get no high off of it. i have friends who do 1mg shots, but they do like 3-5 a day, and say they get high every time. they also claim to go into withdrawal within 8 hours of not dosing.

 

[DangerChamber]

I'm lucky I'm one of those who doesn't have strong urges while on bupre ...as a matter of fact I reckon that after a while on Bupre one unconsciously ends up changing his DOC as in these days I have this strong feeling that I'd rather be on my daily dose of Subutex than H... is that any measure of progress towards sobriety?Not too sure to tell you the truth,once I feel it's time to taper down I'll probbaly find the answers.

Isn't that's how it's supposed to be? I still have no intention of going toward sobriety yet (I've been completely sober for a month and 3 weeks, and it sucks) but that's why bupe and weed would be my most used drugs.

Even though i feel like I'm still married to the euphoric opiates

 

[Captain.Heroin]

is it normal to be able to go 24 hours without feeling withdrawal if you dose 1mg of bupe(IV) a day? i literally have to wait 24 hours to dose or i get no high off of it. i have friends who do 1mg shots, but they do like 3-5 a day, and say they get high every time. they also claim to go into withdrawal within 8 hours of not dosing.

Sounds like you're a slow metabolizer. I get sick within 8 hours as well, but do one tenth of the dose you're doing (0.1mg).

 

[fistful_of_needles]

It depends. I like heroin better for an occasional "high" but buprenorphine for chronic usage. I haven't used heroin in a long time though, mostly because I don't like coming down or having to wait for WD's.

I know people who like buprenorphine more than heroin, and would steal for it to put it bluntly. I never stole for heroin, as an example.

I don't know man,it just feels weird these days when I occasionally decide to use H,as if it's somehow lost a great deal of its "magic" for me after almost a year of Sub maintenance...I mean,I can still feel it for sure,it's just that it seems I do not feel it as "intensely".Each and every time I use H these days (very seldom anyways)I have this feeling in the back of my mind that I'd probably had been better off on Sub...know it sounds odd but on the other hand one can interpret it as an improvement of sorts since despite still being addicted to an opiate at least this one I can afford and allows me to have a life in general,a situation which was very,very different at the peak of my H addiction where I found myself pretty much alienated/deprived of everything.