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Bupe Suboxone/Buprenorphine FAQ and Megathread v.1; 2007 - 2010

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oudadisworld said:
Doesn't insurance not cover suboxone?

My insurance doesn't cover anything that has to do with addiction
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When I had private health insurance through Premera Blue Cross they covered Suboxone, Subutex, and 80% of the monthly cost of my MMT program. It all depends on the plan and the company.
 
^thanks man i appreciate it.

i found a few things in the other bupe mega threads that said 24 hours so i did some, i know the 1st page of this thread says 36-48 but it also said that was the short answer and so i tried to do some, i guess i might not have gotten full effects but i feel nice.

i just am worried that there is still some bupe on my receptors and plus the oxy i dont wanna OD or anything. so i am gonna wait to take more but yea i do feel it an i took some at 2:20 today, just a bit ago so i would it has been since 9:30 AM yesterday that i took the bupe so it was more then 24 hours
 
johanneschimpo said:
Oh, well, now he's better. Good work. 8)
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Well, would telling them to score Suboxone on the street be any wiser? No!

It's not smart at all to pay for health insurance that doesn't cover what you need it to. Switching insurance providers is the best option for this person and their recovery. Scoring Suboxone on the street isn't helping discontinue the habits of addiction.
 
^^ in a way, but that seems to depend on the will of the addict/individual.

yes buying drugs off the street is addict behavior but if he tappered down using street Bupe and was able to stay away from opiates then after doing so then it is doing the same work as an RX, correct?
 
in veterinary medicine there is inexpensive pure buprenex liquid which can be used IV, IM, SQ or liquid placed under tongue to be absorbed in that way. i know the "powers that be" would never ever ever go for it, but since so many long term IV heroin users are addicted to the needle too, if they really wanted to get people to break the heroin handcuffs offering the option to use IV bupe to detox with ~it does NOT get you high, it just stops the w/d's and gets you straight (more is not better) the instant onset of stopping w/d pain is very satisfying, and injecting something that has no "effect" is very easy to wean off of. i know "they" could never see the logic of this, but as someone that has used the liquid bupe IV to get off opiates once* i can tell you it works physically/mentally better than any other method (bupe should not even be mentioned in same sentence as evil methadone), think BL oral sub user people could appreciate if someone had offered them this option when they were deep into their heroin use even if they were not at that point where they were "done" and ready to get clean, years of heroin addiction misery could have been prevented.
wish someone had walked up to me years and years ago and said "hey for a few dollars you can have these vials of liquid and instead of having to come up with thousands of dollars for all those bundles of dope you need a week, shoot this instead for a few weeks and you'll actually see there is a way out. you are at the point where you can't get high off dope anymore anyways only doing it every 2 hours around the clock to not be horribly sick, you won't get high off this either but you will soon be FREE"...don't you all think that you would have jumped on that?

*yeah i am back on opiates due to extreme pain issues and have zero QOL without pain meds. but when/if my condition ever improves to the point where anything besides strong opiates could help, liquid IV bupe will be my choice for getting off the opiates. it puts YOU in control of working your way through w/d's mentally and physically...sigh so sad that more people could not be saved from the dark pit of addition with this wonderful stuff.
 
HighonLife said:
^^ in a way, but that seems to depend on the will of the addict/individual.

yes buying drugs off the street is addict behavior but if he tappered down using street Bupe and was able to stay away from opiates then after doing so then it is doing the same work as an RX, correct?
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Sure, but that may not be enough for all people to stay "clean" to be honest.

I know most wouldn't have a problem with it, but changing your environmental surroundings and discontinuing associated behaviors with the addiction do help tremendously to help the individual get past it.

Some may find it hard to say "screw suboxone" and buy heroin on the street instead, especially if you're getting it from the same person.

Plus, getting it from the street, if you run out prematurely, you're going to be coming down. If all you can find is heroin (or another addictive opiate for that individual), then...it's a lot more likely you'll relapse.

It really depends on the indivdiual, if you managed to do it with Suboxone off the street, then yes it's essentially the same end result if you do get clean. And good job if you managed to do so.

mebroken said:
in veterinary medicine there is inexpensive pure buprenex liquid which can be used IV, IM, SQ or liquid placed under tongue to be absorbed in that way. i know the "powers that be" would never ever ever go for it, but since so many long term IV heroin users are addicted to the needle too, if they really wanted to get people to break the heroin handcuffs offering the option to use IV bupe to detox with ~it does NOT get you high, it just stops the w/d's and gets you straight (more is not better) the instant onset of stopping w/d pain is very satisfying, and injecting something that has no "effect" is very easy to wean off of. i know "they" could never see the logic of this, but as someone that has used the liquid bupe IV to get off opiates once* i can tell you it works physically/mentally better than any other method (bupe should not even be mentioned in same sentence as evil methadone), think BL oral sub user people could appreciate if someone had offered them this option when they were deep into their heroin use even if they were not at that point where they were "done" and ready to get clean, years of heroin addiction misery could have been prevented.
wish someone had walked up to me years and years ago and said "hey for a few dollars you can have these vials of liquid and instead of having to come up with thousands of dollars for all those bundles of dope you need a week, shoot this instead for a few weeks and you'll actually see there is a way out. you are at the point where you can't get high off dope anymore anyways only doing it every 2 hours around the clock to not be horribly sick, you won't get high off this either but you will soon be FREE"...don't you all think that you would have jumped on that?

*yeah i am back on opiates due to extreme pain issues and have zero QOL without pain meds. but when/if my condition ever improves to the point where anything besides strong opiates could help, liquid IV bupe will be my choice for getting off the opiates. it puts YOU in control of working your way through w/d's mentally and physically...sigh so sad that more people could not be saved from the dark pit of addition with this wonderful stuff.
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Well put. IV buprenorphine doesn't have the same pleasurable rush that is present with IV hydromorphone or IV heroin, or even IV oxycodone (if you have a low tolerance - people who say it doesn't have a rush have a high tolerance). You "can" get a rush from IV buprenorphine, especially when you don't have any opiate tolerance (you rarely use opiates, or have tapered down to a very low dose and have been clean for a long time), but for the most part IV buprenorphine just kicks in quicker, and having a more instant "feeling better" effect certainly is nice.
 
suboxone question...I swear I used the search function

Hello guys Kind of new here I've been a lurker but never registered 'til now. I have yet another sub question that I can't seem to find an answer to. I've been taking suboxone for about a week, probably .75mg a day since roughly...tuesday? but anyways I hurt my self in an indoor game and long story short was going to try to take 20mg of oxy for pain. i have a lil tolerance, 40mg of oc will make me fade out pretty hard, i took about .5mg of sub this morning when I woke up played an indoor game so sweat profusely and have a fast metabolism. Will I feel 20mg or is it waaay to soon to get to the receptors, thanks in advance.
 
ynwa1015 said:
Hello guys Kind of new here I've been a lurker but never registered 'til now. I have yet another sub question that I can't seem to find an answer to. I've been taking suboxone for about a week, probably .75mg a day since roughly...tuesday? but anyways I hurt my self in an indoor game and long story short was going to try to take 20mg of oxy for pain. i have a lil tolerance, 40mg of oc will make me fade out pretty hard, i took about .5mg of sub this morning when I woke up played an indoor game so sweat profusely and have a fast metabolism. Will I feel 20mg or is it waaay to soon to get to the receptors, thanks in advance.
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You don't make a post for every Suboxone question you have - we have a Suboxone Mega Thread.

If you searched (not with the search function but the Mega Thread directory) you could've found it.

-> Suboxone Mega Thread

You want to wait at least 24 hours, if not longer. However, if you're just looking for pain relief, if you've waited a while since your Suboxone dose, you can take the OC on top of it. Just make sure you're definitely no longer feeling the OC before switching back to Suboxone.

0.5mg of buprenorphine isn't enough to completely saturate the receptors, you can take the OC now if you're really in pain, or wait if you want to get "high".
 
Reposting this in the megathread because I didn't get the answers I was looking for. BTW I do not have any micron filters, I would be double filtering with cotton (filter once, shoot back, filter again thru a clean cotton):

Hey,

I've searched a lot of topic and found a lot of conflicting information. I relapsed on heroin recently and want to go back on sub but my main addiction right now is to the needle.

I have heard its possible to IV suboxone. I'm not looking to get a rush, I just can't stand waiting 1-2 hours for it to kick in sublingual.

Can somebody give me some advice on how to IV suboxone, if its even worth it, etc. etc.

I also need to know what sort of dose I am looking at. I normally take 1-2mg sublingually to hold me for ~18 hours because my metabolism is so fast that ist he longest it will keep me out of sickness. I was thinking I would try to IV 1mg... it would be nice if I could catch a buzz off of it so in a nutshell I need to know:

a) What do I need to do to prepare a suboxone for IV?
b) What dose should I start at if I am taking 2mg sublingual to stabilize?

I know shooting pills is bad but I've heard suboxone is one of the safer ones. Its going to be a 1 time thing most likely, I am just curious what its like. After that I will stick to sublingual or perhaps snorting so I can get a better BA out of it.

TIA
 
nukka said:
Reposting this in the megathread because I didn't get the answers I was looking for. BTW I do not have any micron filters, I would be double filtering with cotton (filter once, shoot back, filter again thru a clean cotton):

Hey,

I've searched a lot of topic and found a lot of conflicting information. I relapsed on heroin recently and want to go back on sub but my main addiction right now is to the needle.

I have heard its possible to IV suboxone. I'm not looking to get a rush, I just can't stand waiting 1-2 hours for it to kick in sublingual.

Can somebody give me some advice on how to IV suboxone, if its even worth it, etc. etc.

I also need to know what sort of dose I am looking at. I normally take 1-2mg sublingually to hold me for ~18 hours because my metabolism is so fast that ist he longest it will keep me out of sickness. I was thinking I would try to IV 1mg... it would be nice if I could catch a buzz off of it so in a nutshell I need to know:

a) What do I need to do to prepare a suboxone for IV?
b) What dose should I start at if I am taking 2mg sublingual to stabilize?

I know shooting pills is bad but I've heard suboxone is one of the safer ones. Its going to be a 1 time thing most likely, I am just curious what its like. After that I will stick to sublingual or perhaps snorting so I can get a better BA out of it.

TIA
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I PM'd you.

Basically, you would be fine to shoot Suboxone, even without cottons. It's just not something that would work out well for most people, and if you don't have good IV technique (you miss more than one in ten times) then please just save yourself the effort.

But, if you have good technique, and have a good handle on IVing, and using buprenorphine, then this may work out well for you.

It really depends all on the individual.
 
Do not shoot suboxone tablets, the pills are very dirty and can cause problems very quickly. Snort if anything does the same thing.

Peace,
Seedless
 
You do filter your tablets though capt H? I mean theres lots of binder in there, you don't want to be shooting that.
 
The solution is the same whether you filter it or not.

Most of the cut in Suboxone is water soluble, and even with a cotton, you're not going to get it out.

The only potentially harmful inactive ingredient in Suboxone is not soluble in water, so it collects at the bottom.

Suboxone is only 2.05...% buprenorphine, but you get most of the water back.

Whether you filter with a cotton only matters if you are 100% dead set against having your needle clog at all. Most of the time it won't even without filtering.

Cotton filtering is good for pills that will have lots of chunky, clumped crap..but Suboxone dissolves nicely.
 
but regardless of all that it still doesn't justify not using a filter of any kind. inevitably you're going to end up with an amount of the shit left in the spoon get into the barrel and then into your bloodstream - where it's going to collect and cause harm.
 
leftwing said:
but regardless of all that it still doesn't justify not using a filter of any kind. inevitably you're going to end up with an amount of the shit left in the spoon get into the barrel and then into your bloodstream - where it's going to collect and cause harm.
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agreed! i don't care if whatever i'm shooting is clearer looking than water, it is still getting at least a little piece of cotton. filter anything you IV (unless it is drawn straight from a vial of liquid labeled for IV use). takes 2 seconds to roll up a little ball o' cotton and can save one from some pretty serious medical conditions later on.
 
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