Captain.Heroin
Bluelight Crew
No one has been able to tell me what exactly is piling up somewhere theoretically...this is my issue with this being told to me.
I'm not going to tell you you're wrong, but do you have something proving you're right? Do you know which inactive would accumulate, and where it accumulates?
From what I understand, the solution will still be orange despite micron filtering...so you can't get 100% of the inactive out of it.
The only reason I question this is because plenty of people are IVing Suboxone and Subutex (both which have magnesium stearate and Povidone K30); there are very few long-term health complications we have seen. Of course as our generation ages, we may see a large increase in certain health problems. However, I feel at the rate some people are going at, we'd already have seen something besides artery shots or abscesses due to subcutaneous or IM shots.
So, to sum up how I feel about this, the proof is in the pudding. Show me someone with an eye that turned orange from shooting Suboxone or something. I doubt you'll find it.
People have shot plenty of worse. Some people have shot OC's for years and years. Obviously talc is accumulating in their lungs...but how many people who shoot OC go on down the road get talcosis of the lung? Not all of them, of course.
Just some thoughts. I have been researching this for over a year, and I specifically joined BL to find this out. Any information would be helpful.
If I'm shooting a Dormicum tablet, for example (which I have only done once) then sure, a cotton is great. But Suboxone dissolves pretty clear as is. You're only really wasting a bit of the solution just to use a cotton. Additionally, most pills don't get great "returns" on the amount of units you put in it. Suboxone is something where if you put in 40 units, you can get 38 of them back easily.
With pills which only return 1/3 to 1/2 of the water on their own (Dormicum, Dalmane, OC, etc) a cotton really does help the crap that will clog the rig and does help get the solution in.
Even if a solution is clear and you've filtered it with cottons a dozen times, talc will still be present. I know some other fillers will too, I just don't know what is actually filtered out by a cotton other than what you can see with your eye.
Plus, you can create sterile solutions with sterile product and bacteriostatic water which need not be cotton filtered IMO (K, for instance).
***One last reminder***
It's important to remember that if you have any sort of opiate tolerance, you probably won't get much additional positive effects out of IV buprenorphine, and it would be in your best interest to taper with sublingual use.
You can still develop abscesses much easier than you would with a sterile IVable solution if you miss with Suboxone versus an ampule of whatever, so for the vast majority of people, IV suboxone is not a great idea.
Especially when you factor in how short IV buprenorphine will last you in terms of duration, you might as well stick to the sublingual route until you have a very significantly lowered opiate tolerance. For someone with an opiate tolerance, switching to IV buprenorphine may give you an incentive to not switch back to any other ROA's, then it might be very easy for you to start shooting "too much", and get up to the point where you have far exceeded the equivalent sublingual dose.
At such a point, you're doing more harm than good by raising your opiate tolerance, and also by additionally reducing the medicinal efficacy of Suboxone.
So, what I mean to say is, when I give people instructions on how to shoot Suboxone, I do so because people will go out there and try whether I help them or not - it's just that my help hopefully will prevent them from making potential mistakes, or to help re-evaluate the situation entirely.
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and i know you're shooting multiple times a day and have been for a good period of time so it would be in your best interest and all.
