N&PD Moderators: Skorpio
You should upgrade or use an alternative browser.Stimulants of the Future II
And is tripelennamine really abused as wikipedia says?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tripelennamine
Have anyone tried it or know anyone who has?
And are there any human reports of beta-methyl-PEA effects?dread
Bluelighter
Sounds very interesting...fastandbulbous
Bluelight Crew
Personal experience with beta-methylPEA (2-phenyl-1-propylamine) was that it's an almost inactive CNS stimulant (went up to 100mg with no real noticable effect). Good topical vasoconstrictor, but I think it's lack of CNS activity may in the most part be because it's easily deaminated by monoamine oxidase
Read something that said the same thing, but no idea of source - sorry. If it is active, I'd bet that it's dose range would be up in the several hundreds of milligramsdread
Bluelighter
Actually it seems to be active at 100-200 mg. By the reports I read (the english ones, can't read or speak russian) it seems to be more of a mood enhancer than anything else. It might become more of a stimulant, entactogen or psychedelic at higher dosages, though.
After reading the site a bit more, it seems that 4-benzyloxy-3-methoxyamphetamine has psychedelic activity. 4-isopropyloxy and 4-allyloxy seem to be mood enhancers similar to the propoxy.
The Chemistry of Cyclobutanes Edited by ZVI RAPPOPORT The Hebrew University, Jerusalem
and JOEL F. LIEBMAN, The University of Maryland, Baltimore County
was available as a torrent at one stage.
Thanks, I found this online recently also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SEP-225,289
p.s. Please stop posting unsubstantiated crap.
negrogesic
Bluelight Crew
As for effects it was prone to stimulant psychosis, for example if you use amphetamine for 5 days then on a fifth day you'll get no euphoria from same dose - only dirty stimulation, but Mesocarb is another thing, it will give your all positive effects of a stimulant, but also chances of a psychosis are skyrocketed. It was manufactured in a 5 mg pills.
/navarone/
Bluelighter
http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4062
Ian M. Lockhart, Sheila A. Foard
J. Med. Chem., 1972, 15 (8), pp 863–865
DOI: 10.1021/jm00278a026
http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/jm00278a026
Can someone post full text?fastandbulbous
Bluelight Crew
A bit of a big leap - total and utter Zen like understanding of SAR - can't think of one pharmacophore where the SAR is fully understood
According to this book they are stimulants:
Meeting Name: International Symposium on Amphetamines and Related Compounds, Istituto di ricerche farmacologiche Mario Negri, 1969.
Main Title: International Symposium on Amphetamines and Related Compounds. Editors: E. Costa [and] S. Garattini.
Published/Created: New York, Raven Press [1970]
Description: xiii, 962 p. illus. 25 cm.
ISBN: 0911216081MurphyClox
Bluelighter
Thozalinone looks aminorex-like. Wonder what the potency is compared to its better known parent?
The 3rd compound is pyrovalerone.
- Murphydread
Bluelighter
Prolintane and 84 F/1983, the two pyrrolidine derivatives, have been claimed to "promote well-being" and increased drive and spontaneus activity in anergic patients.
Generally speaking, the activity spectrum of this group of drugs differs from that of amphetamine in the lack of production of tolerance and psychotomimetic effects on chronic administration. Anorexic and cardiovascular properties were either greatly attenuated or abolished. This was particularly true in the case of the piperidine and isoxazolidine derivatives, but less so for the pyrrolidine compounds.
Meeting Name: International Symposium on Amphetamines and Related Compounds, Istituto di ricerche farmacologiche Mario Negri, 1969.
Main Title: International Symposium on Amphetamines and Related Compounds. Editors: E. Costa [and] S. Garattini.
Published/Created: New York, Raven Press [1970]
Description: xiii, 962 p. illus. 25 cm.
ISBN: 0911216081
I have bioassayed 4 compounds of these classes, 4-methylaminorex, MDPV, methylphenidate and prolintane, and I agree with this statement except in the case of MDPV and methylphenidate. 4-methylaminorex and prolintane didn't produce "psychotomimetic" effects i.e manic or psychotic episodes. And 4-methylaminorex didn't produce tolerance, I'm not sure if prolintane produces, because I did it only a couple of times.
Here is the whole chapter: