Dissociatives Some Ideas To Using Nitrous Safely

[polymath]

When I obtained a package of N2O cartridges last year, I noticed that DXM potentiated it a lot even at a 90 mg dose that wouldn't have much effect alone. So that's one way to get more high on nitrous without as much lack of oxygen or vit B12 depletion.

 

[Bitchniggaz]

It’s a type of mask similar to a N95. Good tip btw, I’ll be sure to do that.

-GC

I would be careful with using those mascs, they are covered in ethylenoxide which extremely cancergenous.
Its insane that people walk around with these worthless things for hours per day.
There is no data suggesting they help stopping any transmission of disease.
Also they decrease they amount of oxygen you can absorb.
So they will make your immune defence worse while you rebreath bacteria that gets stuck in the mascs.

Ethylene Oxide - Cancer-Causing Substances

Learn about ethylene oxide, which can raise your risk of lymphoma and leukemia. Exposure may occur through industrial emissions, tobacco smoke, and the use of products sterilized with ethylene oxide, such as certain medical products or cosmetics.

www.cancer.gov

Just using a sheet of cotton will probably filtrate most of the guck from whippets.

 

[Bitchniggaz]

those are fancy.

nitrous is wasteful af, if when i'm 70 i still want to do them ole whippits, maybe i'll invest in a nice big fat tank.

Check out the mini blue tanks you can by online.
Slightly cheaper then whippets and alot more fun.
One of those tanks are like 70whippets or so.
But make sure you use balloons with them, the gas can get extremely cold unless you buy a regulator to be able to adjust pressure.

 

[G_Chem]

I would be careful with using those mascs, they are covered in ethylenoxide which extremely cancergenous.
Its insane that people walk around with these worthless things for hours per day.
There is no data suggesting they help stopping any transmission of disease.
Also they decrease they amount of oxygen you can absorb.
So they will make your immune defence worse while you rebreath bacteria that gets stuck in the mascs.

Ethylene Oxide - Cancer-Causing Substances

Learn about ethylene oxide, which can raise your risk of lymphoma and leukemia. Exposure may occur through industrial emissions, tobacco smoke, and the use of products sterilized with ethylene oxide, such as certain medical products or cosmetics.

www.cancer.gov

Just using a sheet of cotton will probably filtrate most of the guck from whippets.

Upon looking up this information I find some discrepancies…

While yes ethylene oxide can leave cancer causing residues (only found in 1 study of 6) this is far from the only method used to sterilize masks. And likely after that research came out, was no longer used at all when other cheaper easier methods are available.

As for oxygen saturation, that is a bit more believable and I agree it’s stupid to wear unless you’re sick yourself and in a close environment. But for those that decide to wear them anyways, it seems to not be dangerous unless high activity levels are reached.

Effect of N95 Respirator on Oxygen and Carbon Dioxide Physiologic Response: A Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis

During the COVID-19 pandemic, N95 respirators were commonly used in many situations. Respiratory problems from prolonged use of respirators were discussed in many studies, which show varied results. From the inconclusive results, the current systematic review and meta-analysis discerned the...

www.mdpi.com

-GC

 

[Forever Changes]

Surely if those masks were potentially carcinogenic, the govt would not have encouraged - and in some cases enforced - mask wearing during the pandemic?

 

[Forever Changes]

Check out the mini blue tanks you can by online.
Slightly cheaper then whippets and alot more fun.
One of those tanks are like 70whippets or so.
But make sure you use balloons with them, the gas can get extremely cold unless you buy a regulator to be able to adjust pressure.

What do the regulators looke like - can you buy them as easily as the tanks?

 

[Bitchniggaz]

Surely if those masks were potentially carcinogenic, the govt would not have encouraged - and in some cases enforced - mask wearing during the pandemic?

We def have different opinions on trusting big Pharma and/or authority in general.
Not going to try to change your mind, but my point of view is that that is exactly why they encourage various harmful behaviour.

There is way to much profit in death and disease for greedy people not to be exploiting every way to hurt others available.

 

[Bitchniggaz]

What do the regulators looke like - can you buy them as easily as the tanks?

I probably cant post any sources here, but ive seen a European brand online where they sell both mini Tanks and regulators.

Ive just used them without regulators, i buy Mega sized ballons and just fill them straight from the tank.
The balloon i buy are like +5 normal sized.
Its alot better when normal ones since the pressure increases alot with the big ones.

 

[Forever Changes]

I probably cant post any sources here, but ive seen a European brand online where they sell both mini Tanks and regulators.

Ive just used them without regulators, i buy Mega sized ballons and just fill them straight from the tank.
The balloon i buy are like +5 normal sized.
Its alot better when normal ones since the pressure increases alot with the big ones.

If you don't use masks do you use some way to filter the gas when inhaling from the balloons?

 

[nepalnt21]

I would be careful with using those mascs, they are covered in ethylenoxide which extremely cancergenous.
Its insane that people walk around with these worthless things for hours per day.
There is no data suggesting they help stopping any transmission of disease.
Also they decrease they amount of oxygen you can absorb.
So they will make your immune defence worse while you rebreath bacteria that gets stuck in the mascs.

Ethylene Oxide - Cancer-Causing Substances

Learn about ethylene oxide, which can raise your risk of lymphoma and leukemia. Exposure may occur through industrial emissions, tobacco smoke, and the use of products sterilized with ethylene oxide, such as certain medical products or cosmetics.

www.cancer.gov

Just using a sheet of cotton will probably filtrate most of the guck from whippets.

thanks for the warning on ethylene oxide, but miss me with the "worthless" commentary... just weird that you'd say that.

 

[Bitchniggaz]

thanks for the warning on ethylene oxide, but miss me with the "worthless" commentary... just weird that you'd say that.

What i mean is that they are worthless for protection against aerosol virus particles.
They are made to protect from droplets for surgiries etc.

Dont trust me though, look at the research about the mascs and how they perform.

 

[Forever Changes]

The market is now flooded with the huge canisters, but I do wonder if there's a danger they may not contain N20 but instead some other gas, since they're clearly not designed for catering purposes, so may not be regulated the way foodstuffs are....

 

[G_Chem]

Thank you all.

So I’ve decided to order me some stuff, I’m going to be trying to use pure oxygen in between nitrous hits to see how that effects things. Not many at home users have done this so I’m curious of the results.

We will also supplement B-12 or at least a heavy B-12 meal before and after.

-GC

 

[Forever Changes]

Thank you all.

So I’ve decided to order me some stuff, I’m going to be trying to use pure oxygen in between nitrous hits to see how that effects things. Not many at home users have done this so I’m curious of the results.

We will also supplement B-12 or at least a heavy B-12 meal before and after.

-GC

Are you going for the little whippets with cream dispensers or one of the big canisters with balloons

 

[Bitchniggaz]

The market is now flooded with the huge canisters, but I do wonder if there's a danger they may not contain N20 but instead some other gas, since they're clearly not designed for catering purposes, so may not be regulated the way foodstuffs are....

The ones ive tried are legit, some brands actually do market themselves for catering.
Ive seen sets where you can hookup a regular whippet cannister to those blue tanks etc.

I def prefer the blue tanks to whippets, but a real big tank is def in its own league.

 

[G_Chem]

Are you going for the little whippets with cream dispensers or one of the big canisters with balloons

Big boys gonna hook it up to a regular cream dispenser though. Overall they are more expensive than the small guys, but the thought of avoiding metal dust particles appeals to me.

Plus then I think it may be possible with the cream dispenser to just hit it at will.

Just for people’s knowledge. The setup I will be using has thr .95L tanks with a regulator hose that connects where you usually screw in the small canisters. Very excited to give this a go.

I’ll probably lay out 3 bumps each of racemic Ketamine and 1 of S-Ketamine. Start on the racemic and try to sustain a nitrous/K state for awhile. At some point blast off on DMT with Nitrous in hand.

I think the big tanks will make DMT/Nitrous easier to do, if there’s no need to keep cracking em and all you gotta do is puff.

-GC

 

[Forever Changes]

Big boys gonna hook it up to a regular cream dispenser though. Overall they are more expensive than the small guys, but the thought of avoiding metal dust particles appeals to me.

Plus then I think it may be possible with the cream dispenser to just hit it at will.

Just for people’s knowledge. The setup I will be using has thr .95L tanks with a regulator hose that connects where you usually screw in the small canisters. Very excited to give this a go.

I’ll probably lay out 3 bumps each of racemic Ketamine and 1 of S-Ketamine. Start on the racemic and try to sustain a nitrous/K state for awhile. At some point blast off on DMT with Nitrous in hand.

I think the big tanks will make DMT/Nitrous easier to do, if there’s no need to keep cracking em and all you gotta do is puff.

-GC

That certainly sounds like an easier setup than constantly changing the whippets and probably more cost effective. Having a continuous supply on tap would be ace, but do remember the warnings about oxygen depletion and B12 deficiency. Stay safe with it.

Are you also going to use a filter or mask? Because the big tanks will still probably have the metal particles/gunk in them. I had an idea about stuffing cotton wool in the nozzle but I have no idea if that would be an effective filter

 

[G_Chem]

That certainly sounds like an easier setup than constantly changing the whippets and probably more cost effective. Having a continuous supply on tap would be ace, but do remember the warnings about oxygen depletion and B12 deficiency. Stay safe with it.

Are you also going to use a filter or mask? Because the big tanks will still probably have the metal particles/gunk in them. I had an idea about stuffing cotton wool in the nozzle but I have no idea if that would be an effective filter

I’ll have pure oxygen on hand and supplement b-12.

I am going to filter, not sure yet, probably just a piece of cloth. I doubt there will be any metal particles as those come from cracking the metal seals of each small canister. While I haven’t seen the big tanks yet they probably have a valve.

-GC

 

[Forever Changes]

I’ll have pure oxygen on hand and supplement b-12.

I am going to filter, not sure yet, probably just a piece of cloth. I doubt there will be any metal particles as those come from cracking the metal seals of each small canister. While I haven’t seen the big tanks yet they probably have a valve.

-GC

It may not just be the metal particles - in the thread I linked to earlier about filters, the guy said there was 'yellow gunk' whatever that is.

You've probably already seen this Trip Report thread about a guy who had life-changing problems with heavy N20 use: https://bluelight.org/xf/threads/nitrous-oxide-experienced-life-changing-problems.445374/

and plus there's the story about the girl who was paralysed. Not trying to preach at all, but I think N20 is definitely something for occasional use rather than daily, but I'm sure you're sensible

Just don't strap any mask to your face or you may end up like Steve Martin in Little Shop of Horrors...

 

[G_Chem]

It may not just be the metal particles - in the thread I linked to earlier about filters, the guy said there was 'yellow gunk' whatever that is.

You've probably already seen this Trip Report thread about a guy who had life-changing problems with heavy N20 use: https://bluelight.org/xf/threads/nitrous-oxide-experienced-life-changing-problems.445374/

and plus there's the story about the girl who was paralysed. Not trying to preach at all, but I think N20 is definitely something for occasional use rather than daily, but I'm sure you're sensible

Just don't strap any mask to your face or you may end up like Steve Martin in Little Shop of Horrors...

I knew that girl.. Or at least one of them. (She used to talk with me over on DF.) Definitely familiar with the nasty side effects. I’m also no newbie to nitrous having purchased 600x lots before but just haven’t done a true longer session involving other drugs.

Lol it is tempting to find a way to mask it but I won’t. I’ll be filtering though regardless cuz like you said big tanks can have residue too.

On that note though I’ve heard the big tanks have relatively less oils than small carts, I’ll find out myself soon enough. I also recommend people read as many reviews as possible on them to find the best brand.

-GC