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So who likes benzos? El Benzo Threado Spectacularrrr 2nd Edition

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I dont think i know anyone that wouldn't.. haha ! ^

to the dark side for you mate!

I've been having them near daily for a few weeks now and only juuuuuuust started to get a teeny bit of wd effects... i think.


but hope not ;-)


and sorry you don't know the lingo brotha. You'll catch on soon enough..
 
TripppAR said:
and sorry you don't know the lingo brotha. You'll catch on soon enough..
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Yeah I just need to do some more reading, finding the time for me is the problem. How long can I expect to get away with abusing the Diaz before I run into trouble ? I own my own business and get 1 day off a week if I am lucky. My problem is I need to escape reality but I have lost my usual contacts so prescription drugs seem to be my only option for now. I love good LSD but havn't had any that I would call good since I was at school, had "tables and chairs"(anyone remember them ??) and the old style "stawberries". I did some work for a particular MC club but that particular chapter broke up and I lost contact with them, I'm pissed off. Though the trips I got didn't do a great deal for me, not like the one's I mentioned. I have a few questions actually, should I start a new thread ? Or just ask them here ?
 
Some questions are not related to Benzo's so I think I will start another thread later.

If I took ~40mg Diaz every say second day would that be ok as far as addiction and WDs go ? I feel at this stage I could easily not have any, but would prefer to if that makes sense. Also I have had a very achy/painful lower back, could this be related ? Thanks in advance for any advice.
 
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Yeah I just need to do some more reading, finding the time for me is the problem. How long can I expect to get away with abusing the Diaz before I run into trouble ?
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Everyone is different with some people been able to take it for longer than others before running into problems. For me, it was short. I was using between 40-60mg a day, everyday for a bit under a month. With a taper I still had some quite disturbing withdrawal symptoms. Bad nausea (most prominent), headache, aches and pains, panic and anxiety, shaking, sweating, insomnia, upset stomach, mild depersonalisation, sexual dysfucntion to name a few of the symptoms. They were intense enough to be distressing and quite uncomfortable, and to stop me exercising. However, not intense enough to stop me going to uni or to stop me socialising.

As to your later question about using them every second day. I don't think it is a good idea. 1) whether or not you can actually keep that schedule and not do it each day. 2) that it is a high amount (thearupetically speaking), so your tolerance will grow quickly (you will need higher and higher dosages after a while to be relaxed). 3) I imagine you would still get an addiction and withdrawal symptoms even with skipping days. valium for instance will still be in your body with a day off, meaning your body will become used to it always being present, causing tolerance and addiction.

I also have depression and anxiety, and I know that benzos can make all the pain go away. However, once you get addicted (and it happens quickly) you enter a whole new type of hell. You will still have the symptoms of the mental illness, plus an addiction to feed. The depression and anxiety will also likely worsen. You've heard it all before, but the best thing you can do about anxiety and depression is to do cognitive behavioural therapy and focus on dealing with the causes of the problem.

benzo withdrawal is hellish, so if you can quit whilst you are ahead you are doing yourself a huge favour.
 
@Why not ? ^^^
I don't know how old the 'strawberries' tabs you are referring to, but I remember in maybe late '08? Not quite sure the exact time, heh, I had some nice 'strawberry' tabs, just a strawberry on a white background on each individual tab on the sheet. That was some sweeeeet paper ;)

As for the benzos, if you've been using daily for 2 months, maybe just 1 month, you could get physical w/d effects.

edit: The withdrawals of benzos with long half-lives can sometimes take a day or more to kick in after the last dose.
 
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Sounds like some awesome advice Psytaco, thank you for your time to give such a detailed response. Thanks to everyone else too, it's good to be a part of a Forum where the newbie is not treated like shit, well done Admin, Mods and members.

Puckboy i'm 45yo now and I had the Strawberry when I was around 17yo so old school tabs. But seriously since those I have had many othe tabs(that are suppossed to be good) that are next to useless for me, 4 or 5 tabs in one hit and all I get is the curtains seem to move a bit and when I wave my hand accross my face it has trails following it, I hope you know what I mean by that.
 
Why_not ? said:
Some questions are not related to Benzo's so I think I will start another thread later.

If I took ~40mg Diaz every say second day would that be ok as far as addiction and WDs go ? I feel at this stage I could easily not have any, but would prefer to if that makes sense. Also I have had a very achy/painful lower back, could this be related ? Thanks in advance for any advice.
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Probably not. It won't be as bad as using everyday, but diazepam has a long half-life and will still be in your body and you will be developing a tolerance. You could try two/three days on, three days or more off, but why play with fire? Take regular breaks, don't overuse them and you won't have to worry about WD.

As for your back... no idea. How long have you been using diazepam for?
 
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As for your back... no idea. How long have you been using diazepam for?
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About a week and a half, and admittedly I've hit them pretty hard. The problem is for me is I havn't felt so much like my old happy self for 20 odd years. Is there anything that is not going to fuck me up like benzo's that is going to do somthing similar ??
 
My other question do Benzo's effect you kidneys ? the reason I ask is because of my back aches and I know have swollen feet which usually means fluid retention.
 
I get bad headaches from taking them the next day by itself. The only thing i luv about them is how i am able to get such an awesome restful sleep from them. Helps me concentrate in my job and so forth. I feel like a new man when i wake up. I dont take them every day tho. Only with my usual combo few times a week now. Cuttin back slowly.
 
About a week and a half, and admittedly I've hit them pretty hard. The problem is for me is I havn't felt so much like my old happy self for 20 odd years. Is there anything that is not going to fuck me up like benzo's that is going to do somthing similar ??
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You shouldn't be having bad WD symptoms after a week and a half. Maybe something is wrong with your back? I get quite a sore back from time to time, I need to go back to physiotherapy or something for it. :\

As for something that will help you feel 'normal'... well, what is making you feel not normal? To be honest I probably wouldn't recommend self-medicating with addictive substances, I can't really talk though. Depending on what your issues are, there may be non-drug solutions so that you don't have to use all the time, and can keep the drugs for every now and then so you don't develop a tolerance.

My other question do Benzo's effect you kidneys ? the reason I ask is because of my back aches and I know have swollen feet which usually means fluid retention.
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I don't think so... I know benzodiazepine doses need to be monitored in patients with renal damage/failure but I don't think they cause damage themselves to the kidneys. Might be worth a doctors visit?
 
go to your Dr. and tell him you have alot of anxiety and panic attacks! Thats what xanaxx is prescribed for! I used meth for 10 yrs and have been off it for 5 yrs but still have problems with anqiety ond not sleeping due to perm damage from meth. Im prescribed1 mg of xanax 4 times a day!I get 120 1 mg xanaxx every month! sweet and to top it off for sleep I take twp .25 mg triazolam or generic halcion which is by far the strongest benzo! I get 60 .25 mg triaolam pills every month also. xanax are strong and fast acting but I wld say .5 mg of halcion is equal to abt 6 mg of xanaxx. It gets me even more chilled and relaxed than xanaxx, doesnt knock me out for sleep what i really want though! Ive tried ambien, seroquel,restoril,attivan and trazadone and none of them really ko'd me like I want! Any suggestions on what wld be stronger than .5 mg of halcion and still be legally prescribed and no prpfanal or what ever MJ was taking and died. I want something in pill form! Is Halcion the strongest there is? From my experience it is but if anyone knows anything stronger let me know! Anyone ever try the barb seconal? Is that any good?
 
Crazykidck69, I also used Meth for 4yrs every day, maybe that is half of my problems ? I was inteligent enough to get myself off it without help, but not inteligent enough to not smoke it in the firdt place, lol. Been off it for ~6yrs now.

Thanks Mr Blonde, I did actually go to the docs today. Seems my back is just spasming, fuck it hurts though. When I say I don't feel normal I mean absolutely NOTHING does it for me anymore, not even the things I love and interest me. Well except getting off my face on diaz and beer. I hate my job, the problem is I own the business and need to do at least another 4yrs for financial reasons before I could afford to sell it. I deal with the public and they are just fucken rude cunts nowdays, the other problem is I am a big guy, who can fight, and one of them is going to get hurt one day then there will be police, charges laid and court. So for now Diaz keeps me calm and from hurting someone. I wish I liked pot but I don't.
 
^ I hate pot as well, used to do something for me when I was 14 but not anymore.

How long has it been since you quit meth? You might be suffering from anhedonia (inability to feel pleasure) as a result of your brain, specifically your dopamine pathways, trying to recover.
 
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