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So who likes benzos? El Benzo Threado Spectacularrrr 2nd Edition

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Well I had my first benzo (surprise, surprise Clonaze) blackout ..... lost all of Saturday night, on 6mg.

Definitely learnt my lesson! Luckily I had my housemate with me, his day off - he said I didn't do anything stupid, just very zombie-like. Done a little digging and afaik didn't say/do anything I regret.

I think I'll stick to a safe 1 to 2mg. :p :p :p
 
they go ilegal drugs for almost any condition except anxiety
u have:
heroin for those with serious pain issues
meth for the best add med
ecstasy for the best instant antidepressant
btw coke is the only known tripple reuptake inhibitor drug, DSNRI (correct me if im wrong)

anyways theres no street drugs directly for anxiety
when is there gunna be a discovery for an easily made benzo.
be great if u could buy a 20 bag of 100mg diaz instead of fucken with drs who hate prescribing em.
well i suppose theres GHB. but thats more simliar to alcohol, right?
can anyone think of any other street GABA drugs?
 
Anon54 said:
they go ilegal drugs for almost any condition except anxiety
u have:
heroin for those with serious pain issues
meth for the best add med
ecstasy for the best instant antidepressant
btw coke is the only known tripple reuptake inhibitor drug, DSNRI (correct me if im wrong)
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If you're counting MDMA as an antidepressant then surely you have to count it as an anxiolytic too. Imo it's neither.

How is meth better than dex for ADHD?

For those who don't know, heroin is used in some circumstances for analgesia in hospitals in many countries (including England). It is just diacetylmorphine after all. So yeah, I agree on that one.

There technically are other SNDRIs in existence but I don't think any of them are actually available.

Anon54 said:
anyways theres no street drugs directly for anxiety
when is there gunna be a discovery for an easily made benzo.
be great if u could buy a 20 bag of 100mg diaz instead of fucken with drs who hate prescribing em.
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Personally, I'd rather be taking drugs made in a lab by a pharma company than dodgy home chemists (who, thanks to recent government adverts, we know make ecstasy in a toilet ;)). I get what you're saying re: availability though. I've never had a problem getting them (legal or otherwise) but I know many do. In fairness, doctors have pretty good grounds for their reluctance (abuse potential, addiction, serious withdrawals, etc.) - it's hard to strike the right balance between leniency and restrictiveness, and most GPs are well on one side or the other :\
 
things other than benzos that you can use for anxiety.

codeine. do a cold water extraction - please do this. I am often complacent with it, and am pretty certain I know have a stomach ulcer that i am seeing a doctor about tomorrow. no fun I tell you and not looking forward to getting lectured. still I have found codeine to be quite effective for reducing anxiety, not as good as benzos but still decent.

some people find weed works, others don't.

camomile tea can work.
 
Man I gotta say I don't think many people, if any, ever got any medium to long term anxiety relief off marijuana, quite the opposite, and damn near everyone I know has smoked heavily for years.

Codeine probably does help with anxiety but given the ceiling dose I think it would be effective for a shorter period of time than an anxiolytic benzodiazepine, in general I don't think opiates are a wise choice for treating anxiety but that is just my opinion and I am also of the belief people should be entitled to medicate themselves with whatever they choose.

Cammomile tea, I have always wondered but never bothered to look up if it had any legit pharmacological properties, my mum got me a bunch for insomnia when I was a lot younger and I personally found it to be a joke, perhaps I have just done too many drugs to respond to herbs like that as none seem to do shit to me. Valerian and all that herbal shit is pretty much imperceptible to me unfortunately. There are definately people this stuff works for but I really wonder if it is placebo.
 
drug_mentor said:
There are definately people this stuff works for but I really wonder if it is placebo.
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It's definitely a factor for at least some people. The placebo effect is way underrated in my opinion. For example, half the time when I take panadol for a headache it goes away immediately - like within a minute (well faster than the drug could possibly be orally absorbed and exert any pharmacological action). I know it varies a lot from person to person, but placebos often work a treat for me. If people think something will help, there's a greater chance it will. If this weren't the case, homeopathy wouldn't exist ;)
 
Crankinit said:
If you know anyone who's into speed/ice/coke, ask them, most people who've been doing uppers long enough learn to love benzos.
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That was me... but once you've experienced severe benzo withdrawal you'll hate them more than anything you've hated before. Suicidal ideation, severe depression and incredibly severe anxiety, delusional thoughts and the list goes on... you'll want to top yourself. I literally believed I was being sent messages through the TV to kill myself.

I despise benzos. Be careful peeps, they seem friendly but they're not in the long run.

Down to 10mg valium a day currently, dropping to 7.5mg soon.
 
Kava (Kavalactones) is GABAergic. I found I did feel "some" affects, but nothing to write home about. Maybe if it was potentiated with something else.

If you want to include MDx as an anxioyltic (I wouldn't either Divine) you could try St Johns Wort (Hypericin) which is (debatable as to whether its an SSRI or) a MAOI.

And also GHB is GABAergic, I would in no way say it could be used as an anxiolytic! I found it extreamly stimulating.
 
puckboy said:
That was me... but once you've experienced severe benzo withdrawal you'll hate them more than anything you've hated before. Suicidal ideation, severe depression and incredibly severe anxiety, delusional thoughts and the list goes on... you'll want to top yourself. I literally believed I was being sent messages through the TV to kill myself.

I despise benzos. Be careful peeps, they seem friendly but they're not in the long run.

Down to 10mg valium a day currently, dropping to 7.5mg soon.
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Valium lead me to depression within a few weeks the experience was very euphoric in a depressing way. I will never touch valiums again. I am on xanax now feels like i can be on them forever on a consistent dose. I stopped a few times and still had plenty stocked up and i never felt depressed at all. I feel the short life has helped my anxiety, i can sit down and relax and have a nice conversation in a soft voice. My blood pressure and pulse rate are normal but i do get a bit shaky in bed at times.
 
^ only really tried zoloft for any extended period of time. Initially it made me more anxious but in a sort of 'crazy' way (can't really explain it better -more illogically anxious). Anxiety settled down quite a bit after 2-3 months of being on them. IMO SSRIs were superior for dealing with depression.

Luckily these days I am depression and anxiety free.

I read in the other thread you got cut off from benzos. that sucks. why did that happen? did you get prescribed an SSRI instead?
 
I LOVE benzos. They're basically my favorite drug. I can say the feeling I get from just taking a low dose of xanax (1-2mg) and smoking 3 or 4 bowls, is probably the most blissful, relaxed feeling ever. Personally. I guess its because my mind races all the time and I'm always worried about this, that or the other thing. I'm not prescribed them, but I used to be prescribed klonopin at two separate times in my life. I can say that I prefer Valium and Xanax to Klonopin. Ativan was kind of weird..

I do keep my dose low, but I have been using recreationally for about 2-3 years now at this same dose. Now about 3-4x a week, which is probably the most in my recent use. I decided I wouldn't take another until Friday. The last time I took xanax was Saturday and that was 1mg...
I think I'll be fine if I keep it to this, no?
Did anybody keep it at this dose originally and then just spiral downward? Or was it taking like 3 bars and going from there. I've never taken more than a bar..
 
I have had hellish anxiety my whole life. Self medicated with pot, but now that does not work, and makes it worse. Trying to give up pot for the umpteenth time at the moment. When it starts affecting my tafe work, i know it's time to give it the boot. Hehe but of course, giving it the boots upsets the tafe work even more! the good ol catch 22!! Which is why i like benzos :)

As I am a true sufferer of anxiety, my favourite benzo of all would have to be Lorazepam. mainly because it treats/numbs my anxiety at it's core, without messing with my head and zonking me out. When treating for anxiety, I don't see the point in zonking out all day, it's like your not facing the problem, just covering it up. At least with Lorazepam, it kills the anxiety and I can go about my day normally, as if i am not on a drug at all. I have found no other benzo that does the same for me. I has allowed me to make some good realisations about my anxiety, and how it is my mind that is causing it. When I am on lorazepam, my head is so clear, and i am able to delve inside and try to uncover the true cause of my anxiety!

One thing I have noticed on here, is that for people who seem to suffer from true anxiety, we much prefer out medications to not zonk us out of our brains. I have enough difficulty functioning in my every day life, i don't need the added difficulty of a drug that is gonna zonk me out too. Damn, I completely dropped out of a Tafe course because my anxiety was so bad that i could no go without taking either Valium or oxazepam. But when i took the drugs, i was not able to focus in class, and would often fall asleep. this lead to me falling so far behind in my tafe, that my anxiety went into overdrive, and i just had to give up the entire course, to save my sanity. I am currently in the same situation with a new tafe course, but have been prescribed lorazepam instead. And I am loving it, it truely helps my anxiety, without adding anything else(such as euphoria, drowsiness etc) into the mix. Lorazepam is saving me from quitting another course!! I know quite a few people who swear by Lorazepam specifically for the reasons i have mentioned!

Don't get me wrong, I LOVE getting on the other benzos and having a good ol zonk out. My preferred for that would definitely have to be Diazepam. Once again, kills the anxiety(obviously) and just makes me feel damned great(euphoric, not a care in the world etc), although doing any form of work when on a good dose is impossible, unlike Lorazepam!! Temazepam can be fun, altho there is something dirty about it that just doesn't gel with me very well. I found the same with Oxazepam too. Only have Xanax a couple of times, and all it made me do was black out... next thing i knew it was 3pm the next day. And it's not like I overdid it, just the one bar. and I have a pretty high tolerance to benzos, and but one bar was still too much for me to actually enjoy it. Maybe i'll try taking half a bar to see how it feels, then dunk the other half when i am confident i won't black out. Hehe also got some klonnies too... but after reading the blackout stories on here, i am very weary of them. I know that shit like xanax and klonnies can feel fucking fantastic, but any drug that can also completely black you out and wipes any memory of what you did is certainly not the greatest... in my opinion anyways! that's why i never drink too much anymore, i enjoy my memories, and when i know there is a gap in my memory, it really disturbs me!

coming on bluelight and seeing exactly how many people on here are affected by anxiety in their every day lifes... it has lead me to question my previous beliefs about taking drugs as a teenager. If I could go back and change one thing, it would be starting to smoke pot at 14. I wish i had never done it. Before then I NEVER had any anxiety issues. But pretty much since i got into heavy smoking and harder drugs, it has just gone through the roof. Anyone who says that early drug use does not cause damage to your brains mental capacity to deal with certain situations, is kidding themselves. Always remember, just cos it didn't happen to you, doesn't mean it doesn't happen! Sure, blast the fuck out of your mind when you are old enough(and no, 16 is not old enough) to take it, it's a helluva lot of fun... but give your mind a chance to fully spread it's wings before you go clipping them!!

heh sorry for the random tangent...
 
I am also of the belief people should be entitled to medicate themselves with whatever they choose.

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I wish my girlfriend shared this attitude, poppy seed tea, codeine is the perfect relief for me from the anxiety i suffer from time to time
According to her benzo's are better for me as they are prescribed

i love her dearly but her ignorance on this topic infuriates me
 
For sure... ingorance when it comes to anxiety can be a real shitter, and can make issues worse. but hey, if she sticks with you through the thick and thin of anxiety, then she must love you alot. if it were not for my fiancee, i probably would not be alive today!

A good book I found for partners who have to deal with their partners anxiety/depression is called Living With a Black Dog. It is a really good and simple way of getting across to your partner exactly what you are going through, and ways for them to help you, without being ignorant or patronising towards your situation. And it also shows them way to not let your problems negatively affect their lives, which is what generally happens in relationships. This book helped me and my partner to no end, and now she really has more of a grasp of my problem, and is able to better help me through it when it gets really bad!
 
sonic reality said:
coming on bluelight and seeing exactly how many people on here are affected by anxiety in their every day lifes... it has lead me to question my previous beliefs about taking drugs as a teenager. If I could go back and change one thing, it would be starting to smoke pot at 14. I wish i had never done it. Before then I NEVER had any anxiety issues. But pretty much since i got into heavy smoking and harder drugs, it has just gone through the roof. Anyone who says that early drug use does not cause damage to your brains mental capacity to deal with certain situations, is kidding themselves. Always remember, just cos it didn't happen to you, doesn't mean it doesn't happen! Sure, blast the fuck out of your mind when you are old enough(and no, 16 is not old enough) to take it, it's a helluva lot of fun... but give your mind a chance to fully spread it's wings before you go clipping them!!
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I completely agree with this. I started smoking pot when I was 14 and only lasted a year with it before it made me have panic attacks every time I smoked it, even in tiny amounts. I was smoking a pack a day by 15 and using codeine, MDMA, MDA, LSD, morphine, speed and anything else I could get my hands on around that time as well. Looking back I can see how my heavy use really put my depression and anxiety into overdrive, and I suffered from that until just last year when it got dramatically worse then suddenly I made a lot of changes.

Now I'm completely free of anxiety and depression and have never been happier or more driven in my life (apart from when I was manic). :)

Good post sonic, thanks for sharing!

Has anyone here ever had a paradoxical reaction to benzodiazepines? My girlfriend used to be prescribed alprazolam years ago, and whenever she took one for a panic attack it reduced the anxiety but made her go very hyperactive and crazy according to her.
 
Same with me, never had an issue with anxiety before that first toke of mary jane at the tender age of 14. Almost mid 30's now and still struggling with anxiety. Any youngsters take note, if I had my time over again I wouldnt have touched weed at such a young age...
 
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