Which GF juice do you guys drink? the pink nicer tasting one or the white one? I assume the white one as it has more GF juice.
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Which GF juice do you guys drink? the pink nicer tasting one or the white one? I assume the white one as it has more GF juice.
Jabberwocky
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^white, though you don't need a full litre and a half. 600mL should be enough:D
id also say diazepam is the more desired benzo for recreational use, in my subjective opinion
id also say diazepam is the more desired benzo for recreational use, in my subjective opinion
I was so skeptical of this, but seriously man it does work well. 1.5 is going overboard, but damm i love this stuff. I go the straight white GF as i think the ruby red isn't as effective for some reason.
With 15mg of Val def use some potentiators to increase the fun of your night.
If you could try and get your hands on .5mg of Xan as well. Makes for a nice combo in small doses.
Mr Blonde
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I always use fresh grapefruit juice, squeeze my own, I think I read the chemicals responsible for enzyme inhibition can degrade in the packaged and preserved stuff.
Jabberwocky
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yeah i'd agree with blondey about squeezing fresh WGFJ, especially when in season. i opted for bottled when out of season. either type i actually really got a nice taste for and was buying it regularly without the intention of using it for inhibiting the codeine metabolism. it was jus yummy and i love fruit!
Mr Blonde
Bluelighter
^ Oh yeah I forgot that as well, use White Grapefruits!
drug_mentor
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15mg valium is a pretty low dose, I hope it goes well for you though! I personalyl love valium, couldn't get by without the shit I reckon.
I have never tried grapefruit juice myself but I just may have to try and see what all the hype is about, I rarely even abuse benzo's anymore because my supply is dwindling and tolerance is a bitch when you have legitimate reasons to use them aswell. It would be nice to catch a pure diazepam buzz for once.
I have never tried grapefruit juice myself but I just may have to try and see what all the hype is about, I rarely even abuse benzo's anymore because my supply is dwindling and tolerance is a bitch when you have legitimate reasons to use them aswell. It would be nice to catch a pure diazepam buzz for once.
mushi mushi 88
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I really enjoy Alprazolam (Xanax).
Not to get fucked up on but I find they level me out, like I never really feel normal on a day to day basis but when I use xanax it seems to make me feel normal and not depressed or anxious. I wish I could get a prescription for them but I don't have the money to fork out to see a shrink even though I have been many referrals to one...
If I wanted to get fucked up I like to use Diazepam (Valium) with alcohol cause it gets you hell bent that way I find... I also find Triazloam (Halcion) pretty enjoyable by itself but I haven't had them in years so couldn't vouch to much for them and I lost my memory for a week when I went on a bender on them and other Benzos and sleeping tablet......
Not to get fucked up on but I find they level me out, like I never really feel normal on a day to day basis but when I use xanax it seems to make me feel normal and not depressed or anxious. I wish I could get a prescription for them but I don't have the money to fork out to see a shrink even though I have been many referrals to one...
If I wanted to get fucked up I like to use Diazepam (Valium) with alcohol cause it gets you hell bent that way I find... I also find Triazloam (Halcion) pretty enjoyable by itself but I haven't had them in years so couldn't vouch to much for them and I lost my memory for a week when I went on a bender on them and other Benzos and sleeping tablet......
Jabberwocky
Frumious Bandersnatch
dm said:
it won't potentiate in the sense of making it stronger, its a inhibitor of the codeine being metabolised so extends the length the effects will last.
mr b said:
hehe yep, we need to differentiate someimes because people make the mistakes of using the other.
we even added "WGFJ" into the thread we have with frequent acronyms in OD as it comes up a fair amount haha
What about 5-10mg of valium + 15mg of oxazepam?
Or is it not a good idea to combine them?
drug_mentor
Bluelight Crew
^ I have no experience with oxazepam but I am pretty damn sure 15mg is equivalent to 5mg valium, if I was you I would be more inclined to take 15mg valium and 15mg oxazepam, maybe more oxazepam after an hour or two if you still don't feel much.
Combining benzo's isn't an inherently bad idea, but you should be careful. Benzo's on their own aren't likely to cause death via OD, but it does happen, as do a lot of very avoidable accidents. Combining CNS depressants will cause them to potentiate eachother though, and I think you will probably feel valium and oxazepam combined more strongly than you would feel an equivalent dose of either benzo on their own.
Combining benzo's isn't an inherently bad idea, but you should be careful. Benzo's on their own aren't likely to cause death via OD, but it does happen, as do a lot of very avoidable accidents. Combining CNS depressants will cause them to potentiate eachother though, and I think you will probably feel valium and oxazepam combined more strongly than you would feel an equivalent dose of either benzo on their own.
i have oxazepam 30mg (alepam) and that is the equivalent of 15mg of diazepam.....supposedly
they take forever to come on and IMO i'd rather valium. Oxazepam works good for anxiety, but takes too long to work, and in my case, not so good for anxiety.... also has little recreation value after the first few time you use it... IMO.
they take forever to come on and IMO i'd rather valium. Oxazepam works good for anxiety, but takes too long to work, and in my case, not so good for anxiety.... also has little recreation value after the first few time you use it... IMO.
Just start with 15mg of Valium, see how you feel after 45 mins, then dose 15mg-30mg of oxempan if you feel fine. I can't see a problem with that if you have taken 20-30mg of Valium before. My GF has no Benzo tolerance and she did 30mg Valium her first time safely and easily. Do not drink though, mixing benzo's is one risk, mixing drink+ 2 benzo's is a cocktail of risk. Only ever drink on benzo's your used too, and then only 1-2 drinks. IMO.
Jabberwocky
Frumious Bandersnatch
BENZODIAZEPINE EQUIVALENCE TABLE
Revised April 2007
remember it's therapeutic effects, not recreational use. and there's probably a more update chart out there somewhere but this is a highly regarded one and widely used.
also included is another highly regarded benzo withdrawal schedule from Dr Ashtonl; the Ashton Manual. very useful for those wanting to taper off, especially after long lived addictions.
BENZODIAZEPINES: HOW THEY WORK AND HOW TO WITHDRAW
Revised April 2007
remember it's therapeutic effects, not recreational use. and there's probably a more update chart out there somewhere but this is a highly regarded one and widely used.
also included is another highly regarded benzo withdrawal schedule from Dr Ashtonl; the Ashton Manual. very useful for those wanting to taper off, especially after long lived addictions.
BENZODIAZEPINES: HOW THEY WORK AND HOW TO WITHDRAW
Azron
Bluelighter
The Rivies man it's all about the rivies
x2 i totally agree with you there, i just don't understand how people would consume it at ridiculous doses. I wonder what kinda health plan they have in future?
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