Sniffer dogs

[sublimer45er]

My method is generally sealing pills in one satchel, then putting that satchel into a slightly bigger satchel.

Then get an A4 size glad wrap sheet, sit the satchel in the middle and cover the the whole glad wrap area with cracked-pepper (make sure its ground black pepper that you crack).

Wrap that one up into a ball, then lay that ball onto another sheet of wrap. Get any strong deodarant (I use Lynx) and spray a good decent amount all over the wrap, and also apply alittle more pepper. Wrap that over the previous one again.

Spray some more deodarant onto the last sheet of glad wrap and wrap it over the ball again.

Put the contents into a condom and make sure you get as much air as possible out before tying it as it will ballon up and you dont really want that. Try and double/tripple tie it so its completely air tight.

As someone suggested, either take it into the shower with you (best method!) and wash it and make sure it is air tight. Look for ANY leaks. Dont worry, you will know it it has been punchered or is not air tight. Another way is to wash it under a tap with warm water. If doing it this way, I usually wash my hands first with soap, then apply soap to the wrapper and wash ATLEAST 3x times. After the last wash, pat dry or carefully wipe dry with a dish cloth or paper towels. DO NOT use the same dish cloth or paper towel that you used to dry your hands!

Just to be safe, use the shower method

 

[sublimer45er]

Yeah also dont make it so obvious. Cops are normal people too and they know that anyone dressed in "phats", people drinking out of water bottles, people covered in glow ticks, carrying Vicks (big no no for Sydney events!), wearing jumpers (they know you wear jumpers because of the 'chills') and so on then these are the people they will target the most. When I goto clubs around Sydney, they hardly ever target any "metro" looking people there that are chilling out having alcohol. Bit decriminating I know, but I suppose if you 'look the part' of the whole rave scene you are more vunuable.

perfect example is a regular club I goto on Fridays. Just recently they have started to issue Cop warnings and how dogs will randomly search the premises. The security guards were pretty much handing out all these little warning notes to the people in hooded jumpers or phats!! My mate was dressed like a metro lol and he just laughed as he did not recieve one even when the guard looked at him. Just a joke.

 

[uk_pman]

Yeah also dont make it so obvious. Cops are normal people too and they know that anyone dressed in "phats", people drinking out of water bottles, people covered in glow ticks, carrying Vicks (big no no for Sydney events!), wearing jumpers (they know you wear jumpers because of the 'chills') and so on then these are the people they will target the most. When I goto clubs around Sydney, they hardly ever target any "metro" looking people there that are chilling out having alcohol. Bit decriminating I know, but I suppose if you 'look the part' of the whole rave scene you are more vunuable.

The whole word works on stereotypes - whether you like it or not. I'm older, have relatively short hair and go to events and the odd dodgy club night. No one has *ever* tried to sell me a thing - eitehr I look to square, or too much like a cop. Can't figure which! Conversely, I've had random chats with cops at events - and they never take any action. I've had a dog walk right past me at an event, stop and sniff (internally I'm shitting myself, externally I'm trying to keep up a conversation) and the cop just dragged it onwards towards those dressed more to type.

It works both ways....

 

[Jakeperson]

Just wondering about customs and stuff.


Are they trained for every substance or just common ones?

Things like DXM, Piperazines, Salvia?


Isn't there stuff at vets that you can buy that dogs HATE the smell of and won't go near?
That would work, you would think.

 

[rolls]

Things like DXM, Piperazines, Salvia?

I'd imagine they are trained to pick up certain compounds, however they might be able to sniff out a whole selection of drugs due to them having similar smelling compounds. Maybe someone else knows more.

 

[skatkid]

for the last few weeks at town hall station in sydney the coppers have had a sniffer dog hanging around.

i read somewhere (may have been this thread earlier) that legally the only places a dog can sniff u is on public transport (buses, trains, stations) airports (customs etc) and entertainment areas (clubs festivals)
so does this mean they legally cant sniff u if ur walking down the st? cause i heard of plain clothed officers dressing as joggers acting as thouh theyre taking the dog for a walk whilst sniffing ppl as they walk throgh kings cross

 

[rolls]

cause i heard of plain clothed officers dressing as joggers acting as thouh theyre taking the dog for a walk whilst sniffing ppl as they walk throgh kings cross

Sounds like a story from some tripped out meth addict.

 

[Sykik]

I find the entire issue of illegaly searching rather interesting.

So according to splatt's posts above, the following condones a illegal search:
- No sniffer dog to give them the suspicion the law recquires
- When they ask you if they can search you, you repply am I under arrest and avoid saying yes (or is it better to say no?)
- If you have dilated eyes say it is anti-depression medication

Give them only your name if you get arrested, If at the station state that you know your rights (politely) and that you were illegally searched. And go home with no charge.

Have i missinterpretted the information?

 

[Mr Blonde]

If you're not on anti-depressant medication I would be careful about lying to the police.

If you do get arrested, getting a lawyer would be a plus.

 

[skatkid]

so of they ask about ur eyes whats a good excuse? saying ur drink may have been spiked?

 

[Mr Blonde]

There aren't that many good excuses. I've seen people with pupils that are naturally quite large, you could go with that.

If you're not in possession of anything, I don't know if they can charge you for just being under the influence. It might not be worth their while.

 

[skatkid]

There aren't that many good excuses. I've seen people with pupils that are naturally quite large, you could go with that.

If you're not in possession of anything, I don't know if they can charge you for just being under the influence. It might not be worth their while.

yeh i meant if they want to use ur eyes being big as reasonable suspicion to search u.

from my run in with the cops and friends it seems that most cops are pretty reasonable especially if they deem u a user not a dealer. a friend who got sniffed out confessed to having 3 pills on him. they asked him whats the deal with them he said he planned to take them. they asked him where he got them from he said off a dude he didnt know in the city. they asked him if he knew anyone selling inside the event which he answered no. they then confiscated his pills gave him a lecture and told him pretty much it wasnt worth their time to charge him with possesion and that they were after dealers

 

[uk_pman]

....a friend who got sniffed out confessed to having 3 pills on him. ...

.... they then confiscated his pills gave him a lecture and told him pretty much it wasnt worth their time to charge him with possesion and that they were after dealers

Careful with generalisations like this. It may be the policy of police in some states to do this, and police probably prefer to doing this, but other states may take you down to the station so to speak.

You might want tomention which state this occured in.

 

[rolls]

Just say you are on anti depressants, back when I was on zoloft I had my dose upped, for about a week I looked like I was on MDMA everyday and being as I have blue eyes they were especially huge.

Even if you aren't prescribed them if it went to court and they brought it up, just say you tried out some from a friend (every 2nd person is on anti-ds these days so shouldn't be too hard to think of a name)

 

[sydkiwi]

In NSW

If your at an event: they can't charge or arrest you for just being off your chops and you don't have to admit to having anything on you unless the dogs sniffed you and sat its ass down next to you. If they were in practice of doing this (basing you've got drugs on you by you looking off tap and not on been sniffed by a dog) they would be writing out fines or arresting half the people going into an event or club and not actually catching any dealers.

They can charge you if they find stuff on you. Freaking out when getting pulled up by the cops or even just seeing the cops and the dog coming your way (seen it happen before), doesn't help your case either.

Trust me we've walked past those friggen dogs since 2001/02. Dribbled shit to cops while absolutly trashed and they can't do a thing until they believe we have something on us.

 

[skatkid]

Careful with generalisations like this. It may be the policy of police in some states to do this, and police probably prefer to doing this, but other states may take you down to the station so to speak.

You might want tomention which state this occured in.

sorry that happened in nsw.


yeh i think sniffer dogs are overrated anyway. recent rave i went to they caught 24 ppl out of 6500 all which pretty much were off chops. one of those 24 had 100 on him whilst a girl had 50 so i think they have some success at targeting the dealers.

i think the absolute best thing u can do is just walk in a large group with friends and near other ppl especially if they look shadier then u as if a dog comes it comes down to chance whether ur the one sniffed out

 

[Jakeperson]

sorry that happened in nsw.


yeh i think sniffer dogs are overrated anyway. recent rave i went to they caught 24 ppl out of 6500 all which pretty much were off chops. one of those 24 had 100 on him whilst a girl had 50 so i think they have some success at targeting the dealers.

i think the absolute best thing u can do is just walk in a large group with friends and near other ppl especially if they look shadier then u as if a dog comes it comes down to chance whether ur the one sniffed out

A lot of people with small amounts of pills have said that the dogs have smelled them and walked off.

Is it that the scent is so weak from 1-5 pills that the dogs can't pick it up through a bag or are they trained to find stronger smelling people i.e people with more pills?

The second would make more sense if they are trying only to target dealers.
Which makes us users a little bit safer.
Unless of course your tolerance is up near 15-20 mark

 

[sydkiwi]

Jake: more to do with stronger scents but also can do with how you react in the situation. Don't forget the cop handling the dog and the police with them also look at you for reactions.

 

[Jakeperson]

Jake: more to do with stronger scents but also can do with how you react in the situation. Don't forget the cop handling the dog and the police with them also look at you for reactions.

Probably too off my head to realise there's even dogs there:D

 

[Flinch]

Ok, to basically summerise 8 pages.

1. Masking the smell with deodorant, pepper etc, is unlikely to work, think bout it this way, we smell soup, a dog will smell each ingredient.

2. Best way, put pills in saddie, close it, give it a lil clean, put that in another, clean that very very well, possibly put some ginger (something to annoy dogs, might work) in it. Then place in a condom or two and tie each very well.

3. Wash the ball of plastic very very very very well with soap, then wash your hands very well making sure you dont touch anything with pill powder on it etc. (Or save time and take a shower with your new friend

4. In terms of safeness of getting em in, id say cavitys, bra, dack them. Once your there, chillax and smile =)


Also, can someone please clarify in detail about the laws on searching etc. If a dog does sniff you out, how far can they search you? Pat down? Strip? Cavity? Does being U18 change this? Does just the dog give reasonable suspicion for a search? (Im talking NSW here, but one for each state would be epic)