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SMOKING is HARDER to stop than HEROIN!?!?!?!?!

^OK, jerk. Thanks for quoting just about everyones post except mine, ignoring my brilliant observation that an opiate buzz causes contentment, and a stimulant buzz causes more cravings.
 
Binge Artist said:
I've quit smoking several times; honestly, I don't think "nicotine withdrawals" even exist. But still, I can make an argument that, strictly speaking, "smoking is harder to stop than heroin".

Now matter how bad your heroin habit is, you can always stop taking heroin, easily. How? Just take another opioid.

Notice that this doesn't work so well with smoking. Look at all the people who've tried to quit smoking by using patches, dip, or snuff. The difference is clear. With a replacement opioid, you get...opiated. Part of being opiated is that all your cares and concerns dissipate--hence, your cravings for a particular drug, like heroin, dissipate as well. The same cannot be said of a nicotine "high".
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Happy? <3 :p

But really, I was going to do my reply in two parts. If you look, all the posts I quoted are from page 2 only. Then I realized I pretty much said what I wanted to say and canceled season 2.
 
i think its peoples mindstate that ciggaretes are socially acceptable, but sticking a needle in your arm , or smoking or sniffing a plant isnt
 
I smoked for 13 years straight, and one day I was trying to save up money and saw the cigarettes at 5 dollars + and said, fuck it, it's bad for me anyways.

I quit that day, in one try, with no gum, patches of anything. It was easy as fuck, and now I look on cigarettes as being a little gross. I don't know why I smoked for that long. I haven't had one since and they are all around me. Well, okay, once in first month since quitting, I bummed one, but I took two drags and threw it away.

Heroin however......I still look at that with some love. And I have quit it a couple times, I would say psychologically as well as physically it is, and I mean this seriously, maybe thousands of times harder to quit.

Maybe smoking was just particularily easy for me.
 
Smoking is harder to quit because its definitely easier to buy a pack of cigs at 7-11 than go find a dope dealer. I quit smokin for 7 months now with no cravings and for some reason last night i smoked half a cig. Copped a huge buzz. Weird i probably should throw out that old pack of cigs lol
 
Binge Artist said:
I've quit smoking several times; honestly, I don't think "nicotine withdrawals" even exist. But still, I can make an argument that, strictly speaking, "smoking is harder to stop than heroin".

Now matter how bad your heroin habit is, you can always stop taking heroin, easily. How? Just take another opioid.

Notice that this doesn't work so well with smoking. Look at all the people who've tried to quit smoking by using patches, dip, or snuff. The difference is clear. With a replacement opioid, you get...opiated. Part of being opiated is that all your cares and concerns dissipate--hence, your cravings for a particular drug, like heroin, dissipate as well. The same cannot be said of a nicotine "high".
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Umm, I sort of see what you mean, but the thread title is, "SMOKING is harder to stop than heroin!?" So that means you can take chewing tobacco, chew nicotine gum, wear the patch, etc. and that'd be equivalent to substituting heroin for another opiate.. Then again, the chemical structure of diacetylmorphine, oxycodone, hydrocodone, etc. is all quite different. Nicotine is nicotine, but most mu opioid agonists have the same method of action.
 
I think people are also missing the fact that smokers use nicotine much more FREQUENTLY than almost any other drug.

"Using" 20 times a day will make the behavior almost automatic.
 
when people say that to me i see it as just another for saying
go do heroin youll have better luck!

get the fuck outta here i think the only reason why they say that is because there are probably more cig smokers then heroin users in this shitty world
 
Binge Artist said:
^OK, jerk. Thanks for quoting just about everyones post except mine, ignoring my brilliant observation that an opiate buzz causes contentment, and a stimulant buzz causes more cravings.
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haha that's so true now that i think about it
 
belfort said:
where did this come from??many many people tell me this and insist it is true, but how do they come to that result??are there any studies that find nitocine to be a more difficult addiction??

myself, i have been addicted to heroin(IV) but have never smoked a cigarette ever in my life but i can tell you, i have been thru heroin withdrawal and it is quite hellish and i have seen my sister constantly stop smoking for a few weeks, then go back to smoking yada yadda...i have seen her withdrawals and yes, she is irritable and craving but that is it...SSOOO, why do people think smoking is harder to quit than heroin??could it be true??
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yeah,sounds like bullshit.i go for days without cigarettes,(which is really annoying),because i have to put dope first and i usually spend all of my money on it and never have money for smokes,i wouldnt ever by cigarettes before drugs.
 
Ok im a minor and i find adderrall to be more addicting and morphine also is . IMO smoking is harder cause its accepted but if ur a minor its just like usuing any other drug u have to hide it ( well my dad lets me but) in public i have to wear a hood and shit but when im home i smoke alot more and i get ALOT worse of urges to have one still not as bad as to use morphine or adderall but there strong ones. Maybe cause when im speeding i smoke alot?
 
Ok im a minor and i find adderrall to be more addicting and morphine also is . IMO smoking is harder cause its accepted but if ur a minor its just like usuing any other drug u have to hide it ( well my dad lets me but) in public i have to wear a hood and shit but when im home i smoke alot more and i get ALOT worse of urges to have one still not as bad as to use morphine or adderall but there strong ones. Maybe cause when im speeding i smoke alot? Idk i think its a load of bs tho
 
I have been using poppy pod tea twice a month now for several months.

I have no craving EVER for it.

However I crave nicotine almost everytime I drink alcohol, yet I have never been addicted to fags.

Which makes me think its true that nicotine is more addictive than heroin/opiates
 
stevo279 said:
smoking is more addictive than heroin
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bighooter said:
I have been using poppy pod tea twice a month now for several months.

I have no craving EVER for it.

However I crave nicotine almost everytime I drink alcohol, yet I have never been addicted to fags.

Which makes me think its true that nicotine is more addictive than heroin/opiates
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I don't think a lot of you are reading any of the posts in this thread before replying to it. We are NOT discussing which is more addictive. We are discussing which is harder to stop using and to continue to not use.
 
Personally, Nicotine is a lot harder to get out of my life than Heroin is.
Regardless of social acceptability, how it surrounds you etc.
 
Sounds like a stupid question, but what does "to stop using and to continue to not use" mean?

A five year heroin addict kicks the habit. About a year later he goes to a party and rails a bag. He continues to use once or twice a year for the rest of his life without ever becoming dependant again. Does he satisfy the definition of "to stop using and to continue to not use"?
 
Binge Artist said:
Sounds like a stupid question, but what does "to stop using and to continue to not use" mean?

A five year heroin addict kicks the habit. About a year later he goes to a party and rails a bag. He continues to use once or twice a year for the rest of his life without ever becoming dependant again. Does he satisfy the definition of "to stop using and to continue to not use"?
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^ No, he did not satisfy it. In that case, cigarattes would have been easier for him to quit than heroin. He used heroin again, before he smoked again.

It means to quit and never use it again for the rest of your life. In other words: which are you more likely to fall back in to.
 
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