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smokable speed vs. ice

mike fair enough, im sure amphetamine is out there, though Ive heard many ppl claim it in the past that were only quoting what their dealer told them.

But I stand by my statement that there is no way you can tell if it is 100% purity no matter how strong it seems when you take it
 
if it's not what you know but

it's who you know..............

then why do you listen to 'what' they know? shouldn't you trust 'who' they know?

hahahaha, one for the acid heads out there............ trust me, it's real DEEP!
 
basix very true, it's impossible to tell purity by only consuming it - but if your friend works at a bar and gives you a double JD and coke - you watch him pour it then hand it to you - you know exactly how strong that is...if you know what i mean :p
 
but you still making the assumtion that what is in the bottle is what they say.

everyones stuff is always the most pure.
 
i call 'pure' the result of amphetamine being made before it has been cut at all, of course i cannot say how much of the product is shit that hasn't been cleaned away properly etc, but can anybody?

have to have faith in the person that akes the shit - and the amount that gets made i do :p
 
generally the term "speed" comes with highly cut meth in whatever form.. right? (i realise this is slang but due to no amphetamine being around, well yeh u get it)

the only "smokable speed" ive come across turned out to be meth cut with glucose and was mostly sold to people who inject it as "speed". there was a shortage of crystal at this time and when it was mentioned that this speed they had was smokable people were jumpin at it. I dont think these guys felt good about selling it as ice because it was white powder like icing sugar and yeh.. that might dissapoint a few ppl when they got it so it was tagged as "smokable speed". damn that shit had has fiending! :P
 
they wouldn't even call it smokable speed, they'd just call it speed - if anyone bought 'smokeable speed' and it was just the cut crap that everyone eats/shoots then they wouldn't buy it, especially if it was cut with glucose it would leave so much black shit in their pipe...



so much slang, should just be ice/meth/amphetamine smokable (crystasmokablels that you smoke), base which you boot or eat and 'speed' (cut shit that you eat)


lets write an official slang dictionary :p
 
i always was under the impression crystal meth and ice were different compound being Trans-4-methylaminorex, and meth was well crystal methamphetamine :S, know i dont really have much info here but in rush and off to wrk will post more when i get home and check up on my research, highly appreciative if someone could answer this for me in the mean time
 
^In Australia ice is slang for crystal meth, however in USA I beleive ice is slang for a different drug, 4-mar something.
 
Hey yeh research done ice is Trans-4-methylaminorex (4-Mar) it is also in Australia however it is a lot more difficult to produce and is more commonly imported from the asias (this does not have a reference as i asked a friend who is quite knowledgable just to confirm). The effects are quite different from crystal meth and ice, and from my memories ice was a lot more intense than crystal meth with head.. a lot shorter fuse and a lot more intense rushes :) sorry still not hugely detailed would highly appreciate a more in depth explaniation if available
 
4-methylaminorex is an extremely rare drug with no need for a slang street name. Do you need a slang street name for 1-(3,4-methylenedioxy-phenyl)-2-pyrrolidin-1-yl-pentan-1-one?

"Ice" is methamphetamine, worldwide.
 
ive found similar ice(meth) to what i used to get in brissy down here in melbs, quality has never been as good yet down here.
however, for literally half the price i get this really fluffy snowflake looking speed that burns fairly quickly but produces shitloads of smoke, doesnt taste all that clean though, although there is no residue left in the pipe after a few points, small build up after a a gram or two.
not much point to this post.
juts a point of interest.
 
Black meth??????????

basix said:
Ok, most of my knowledge just comes from Bluelight but I'll try explain what I know:

It's not just purity that effects the appearance of the meth, it depends on factors such as how the cook made it, what processes etc and what pre cursors they used, these things can contribute to the strength, appearance, quality, form it is in.

Also smokable 'speed' in powder form will always be cut with different substances and that effects the appearance and purity.

Purity doesn't always directly relate to the appearance though, as you can definately get large clear shards from from one batch that have a very high purity, and get identical looking shards from another batch that will be less pure. I think it largely depends on the skill of the person making it. I'm pretty sure its possible to cut the meth before its crystalised also while still retaining the same clear, glassy appearance.

So theres alot of factors that can affect the quality, and while large, clear glassy looking shards will often indicate a high purity product, it isn't always the case.
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Definitely the case Basix, there is some pretty pure meth running round wa which is pretty black. I know sounds wierd and I cant understand why or what but no BS it is black and really pure. Any thoughts??????????
 
Wow, all these street names.

All methamphetamine hydrochloride is smokable.

If I got glucose cut stuff, I'd put some clear ammonia on it, let the excess ammonia evaporate, then soak up the residue onsome mint leaves and smoke it in a pot pipe.

The freebase oil evaporates lots easier, and I think you'd get more good out of it that way.
 
interesting technique fasteddie. What happens to the glucose? or is it you put some clear ammonia with it, filter it, and let it evap?

Also it should probably be noted you wouldn't smoke that through a bong yeah? Becasue the methamphetamine is water soluble.

I think thats right. im kind of teaching myself chemistry as a part time hobby, wishing i took it in high school.
 
hey guys i have a big question

i have bought "speed" before off a few diff people who claim to know the diff between cut meth and actually amphetamine, and said that this was NOT meth. it is usually a dirty light yellowish colour, with the consitancy of gooey snot. (or semen, but not so sticky :) )

anyway the first time i ate 2.5 points, and had an amazing sense of clearheaded wellbeing for like 6 hours. i could dance as hard as i humanly could for as long as i wanted, and would never get tired. i stayed awake for the next 3 days, but those 3 days i felt great, happy, etc.

another time i injected .5 grams of the same looking stuff. (but diff source) - i felt no rush, no euphoria, very alert but not overly energetic. when i tried to dance around 3 or 4 hours later i got tired as easily as if i was sober. i stayed awake for around 30 hours that time.

anyway what do u guys think i had each time? considering im in rbisbane i would have thought cut meth, but im sure injecteing a half g wudve made me feel something. someone else said that true amp wont actually rush u up like meth does. but then again i felt so good the first time by eating it...and yet had no comedown. (i thought meth had a bad crash)

anyway yeah just a bit confused lol thx
 
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