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Short Suboxone Rattle

Message received and understood. Well not entirely - i dont see it as escaspim, i see it as a reality enhancer, or am i just a tosser playing with words?

Ok then ill enjoy my first happy 5 weeks in 23 years, and then return to feeling like a miserable empty shell, or ghost ? :(

i do understand and appreciate your point and believe that you are saying these things for my own good but our logic / arguments have a great big fork in the road.

The best compromoise/most sensible solution AFAIK is to just use this 3 weeks of pills for fun. The next 2 to taper off and jump. And then try 6 months clean. That way i should hopefully not have had too big a bupe habit (in the grand scheme of things it was tiny). If after 6 months i still feel like a hopeless looser then fuck it all. Id rather be a bupe addict for life and feel like my old self again, than an undercdonfident miserable lonely isolated misanthrope who wants the world to fuck off and die. (including myself i suppose)

Sam: when you stopped taking bupe, how long did it did your mood to bounce back ? I guess you never felt as good again ??? (sincere aplogies if that last questions sounds rude and misguided?)

Am in a honeymoon perioid, and wil bupe soon stop delivering ?

@ Lurch the only time i missed my ah doses were when i forgot about them due to being on extended chaotic stim sessions. Id get the tripple whammy of the comedown. lack of sleep and AH WDS. Its quite possible my AH ddiction was psychological and my doses were all over the place, from a peak of 700 mg (never again, why am i still alive) to a low of 30 mg (why the fuck didnt i jump then)? Anyway, wats done is done.

well thanks for the warning sam, my drugs workers dont seem to have picked up on the severity of the issue. (most of my drugs workers have never even done drugs HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH :sus:Ill have to voice your concerns next time i See them.
 
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If only it were as simple as a return to everyday misery - you'll be begging for everyday misery when you've tapered off and you're spending sleepless nights wishing you were dead.

Bupe fucks with your brain chemistry in many subtle ways, and the longer you're on it, the harder you'll fall.

All for a bit of rapidly-diminishing 'fun' and being cushioned from a reality that always comes knocking no matter what.
 
Most people feel happier than they've ever felt before, when they start using strong opioids recreationally. Fact. =D

Feel free to try to sustain their use as "happy pills", you wouldn't be the first one to try, and you might just turn out to be a freak exception to the rule (of diminishing returns).

I'm not looking forward to your next rambling diary/blog/thread if you turn out being not as happy as you would have liked, though.
 
Sam, how can i phrase this without having you throw a brick through your LCD screen ? Is it possible bupe effects everyone in deiiferent ways. That other guy had a piss easy time of it, though i noted you state his experrience wasnt typical.

Never the less, I am going too try to follow your advice, finish these few strips by tapering down., Try 6 months clean. Then i still feel awful what are my options, become a smack head, try the 33 other anti depressants and MOAIs. I need to have a serious talk with someone who knows what they are talking about. (Im including yourself in that, you know more than most of my drugs workers put together, sadly as do i)

WTFF. Thet are like diving instructors who cant drive, b=ut have just studies bits of the highway code. :X

so you stop getting high pretty soon then eh, and then as is par for the course with these things, you take them just to feel normal ?
 
Right, you've said enough. Thank you.

Plan c.

Stick to taper plan A (although it has been extended by about 4 days) not too big a deal i should hope.

At the end much as id love to keep a few pills for the occassional special occasion - do i really have that will power and self control ? LMFAO (bitterly). I need a trustee to store them for me. I haven't got one. Besides i can get them at the click of a button, and 24 hours later have them land on my door mat. 8(

Well thankyou for tearing all my pretty dreams./ forcing me to take my ostrich's head out the sand. Its not want i wanted to hear. But the bastard taper has resumed today. (i didnt get up till late today) I'm down to 1mg now for 2 or 3 days then, 0.75 etc etc.
 
Poach said:
No, you're just reading neither post right. On the first post I jumped right in from Heroin.

The second post, I waited 3 days coming from Methadone.

Read the thread again and it all becomes quite clear.
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Hmm, no - still not at all clear. You made no mention of how long you left it after your last bag before jumping on the subs. I'm not trying to be a dick here, just having problems deciphering the actual sequence of events - hence my post which asked for the details. Anyway, how are you finding it now??
 
F.U.B.A.R. said:
Hmm, no - still not at all clear. You made no mention of how long you left it after your last bag before jumping on the subs. I'm not trying to be a dick here, just having problems deciphering the actual sequence of events - hence my post which asked for the details. Anyway, how are you finding it now??
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Oh after last bag?.....As soon as I started feeling withdrawals. Can be as little as 12 hours. As long as the withdrawals are real and not just the first little signs of feeling a bit rough. I mean when the nose starts running and the hot/cold flashes start. It's not like meth at all, where you have to wait at least 48 hours to avoid precipitated WDs.

Yea still finding it OK and not sticking to any particular regime now. I just snort a tiny crumb when I feel a bit...um...lively? Can't think of a better word for it really. Could also describe it as accentuated clarity. As if I'm regaining my senses a little faster than I'd like but nothing like WDs by any means.
 
Poach said:
Oh after last bag?.....As soon as I started feeling withdrawals. Can be as little as 12 hours. As long as the withdrawals are real and not just the first little signs of feeling a bit rough. I mean when the nose starts running and the hot/cold flashes start. It's not like meth at all, where you have to wait at least 48 hours to avoid precipitated WDs.

Yea still finding it OK and not sticking to any particular regime now. I just snort a tiny crumb when I feel a bit...um...lively? Can't think of a better word for it really. Could also describe it as accentuated clarity. As if I'm regaining my senses a little faster than I'd like but nothing like WDs by any means.
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Hey, thanks for that man! Interesting stuff. 'Accentuated clarity' - what a fantastic description...:)
 
AH-7921 withdrawals sound awful, like methadone, musta been shit mdb :(, did you really enjoy the high off it to get so addicted? I got nothing but a nod

i rang the place where im going to start my script on monday and they said not to use for 12 hrs before coming in, and something about titrate up the dose till i'm on one i'm stable on, hopefully wont be long, i presume its a matter of hrs not days they do it? I'm not sure anyone know how they start you on a script for subs in the uk?
 
I was given them daily, started on 8mg, next day 12, then slowly down.
 
Earth to bupe heads : IN gneral how long does the magic or honey moon period of Bupe last >?

I mean how long before you need it just to feel normal. ?

Or dioesnt it work like that.

Im tapoering very fast, down to 1mg now, 0.75 tomoz for 2 days ( there was an unplanned increase in dose due to my speed dating event) but will be back on course tomorrow. I wanna be off in a few days, so i can call on that magic should i ever want it again in the futuire (should i ever hahahh)

im sure thats not the proper motivation to finish a taper but it fuckin works for me. If it means i still get to feel thi great every now and then, then life is worth living, and i can take on the whole world, in my own modest little way.
 
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ColourfulKronos said:
AH-7921 withdrawals sound awful, like methadone, musta been shit mdb :(, did you really enjoy the high off it to get so addicted? I got nothing but a nod

i rang the place where im going to start my script on monday and they said not to use for 12 hrs before coming in, and something about titrate up the dose till i'm on one i'm stable on, hopefully wont be long, i presume its a matter of hrs not days they do it? I'm not sure anyone know how they start you on a script for subs in the uk?
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im using bupe to do my ah w/d. By the time my bupe taper ends the ah should more or less have been purged. No way could i have face a month, well i could have if it meant life or dearth, but i selected an easuer option as ther was one available,
 
Treacle said:
I was given them daily, started on 8mg, next day 12, then slowly down.
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Did yous all go on it with the intention to detox off it? I'm hoping to go on it for medium-longer term matinence

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im using bupe to do my ah w/d. By the time my bupe taper ends the ah should more or less have been purged. No way could i have face a month, well i could have if it meant life or dearth, but i selected an easuer option as ther was one available,
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Ugh i dont blame you, i did the same with methadone, couldn't face that rattle switched to morphine and heroin for a month before cold turkeying, which worked surprisingly well

What made you become addicted to it in the first place? Did you really enjoy the high from it or was it just cause its legal/easy to get etc?
 
I did personally. BUT i fuckin love it. Its a fantastic opiate. It fixes me right up. I dont wanna ruin it for myself by becoming too dependent and develop a ridiculous tolerance, so am doing a shorty sharp taper and then going to have the occassional treat. Against all advise i might add. I know best as always. :\

i dont think its recommennded for mid/long term maint. sorry, cant remember why but the bods and users have spoken out and declared its not good for that purpose.
 
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You're talking about Bupe though, MDB? Aren't you? Sorry if it seems like I'm stalking you across the forum, basically I am ;) but that's because there is no-one else to stalk :sus:
 
oh, sorry, simple answer, twas all i could get my mits on at an affordable price (bulk buy - very affordable) It needed about 500mg for a high i think, but it was always more of a nod than a high. Very useful for sexual staying power though. Should my luck with the ladies ever turn I'll probably aqcuire a little more just for that purpose. Man will she be impressed !!! =D

In fact I'll probably get a g or 2 just for that, my luck has to change one day, although of course you make you're own luck.
 
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