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Sensodyne and clandestine labs

i know it's pushing on price discussion and all, but how much does a tube of sensodyne go for these days, compared to colgate?
 
Nah that's fine as it's toothpaste, as as far as people can tell it's pretty useless for anything besides brushing teeth.

Unless you were asking for a street price :/
 
Having had some exposure to heavily addicted/dependant groups of people I would suggest one of two typical behaviours I have observed again & again:

a) A requirement to brush teeth but a preference to spend the money on drugs. Hence people steal all day to day necessities. There was a large incidence of serious tooth decay (verging on dentures for those in the late 20's) in the groups I'm referring to.
b) The ability to trade goods for drugs from dealers. Also the use of expensive goods to even slightly reduce the cost of drugs seemed to be common.

Other items this group would steal included any small high cost item. ie shampoo, conditioner, vitamins, cloths, phones, toilet paper..... basically anything.
 
But is their any real evidence to indicate that drugs are a factor in the stolen goods? It could be counter productive to assume drugs are to blame and twist evidence to suit instead of looking at the evidence and then deciding why. We all know how often drugs are blamed for bad things.

Id put it down too the toothpaste being expensive so people steal it. If they are going to steal toothpaste they may as well steal the most valuable.
 
and the razors :)

Seriously, I have seen heroin dealers & wife's/girl friends fed, clothed, groomed, had a roof put over their heads, provided with transport & offered electronic goods all in efforts to ensure the drug supply for desperate & poor clients who's only option was to beg, steal or swindle anything they could...

Now if Sensodyne was getting stolen from stores in up market suburbs regularly & in large quantities then I would start to wonder if it had some other part to play in the drug trade.
 
Perhaps the manager is under the impression that a side effect of drug use is the chronic need to frantically brush ones teeth? I've met people with sillier theories about drugs.
 
Maybe meth heads have unusually sensitive teeth and don't want to fork out eight bucks a tube for sensodyne?
 
mongman said:
and the razors :)

Seriously, I have seen heroin dealers & wife's/girl friends fed, clothed, groomed, had a roof put over their heads, provided with transport & offered electronic goods all in efforts to ensure the drug supply for desperate & poor clients who's only option was to beg, steal or swindle anything they could...

Now if Sensodyne was getting stolen from stores in up market suburbs regularly & in large quantities then I would start to wonder if it had some other part to play in the drug trade.
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Well i work at the busiest woolworths in Victoria which is in a up market suburb. Sensodyne is stolen regularly along with L'Oreal and Olay cosmetics (which are worth up to $50 and can be sold at footscray markets for $1 or $2 each i'm told), razor blades, panadol/nurofen. batteries.

I'd say we'd write off 100 or so boxes every couple of days. Sensodyne is around 3x the price of an average toothpaste at $8.99 a tube.
 
Yep, and that's the only reason it's stolen. I recently met with one of Australia's most experienced forensic chemists, and he agreed that there's no connection between meth manufacture and Sensodyne, although he didn't dismiss the possibility that some less educated would bees, might be under the misguided belief that it can be used in a meth synth. We'll just have to add it to the growing list of drug myths such as LSD made from fosters beer, and meth from chicken feed...
 
^ Nice little pun there haha.

It is pretty funny to me that toothpaste would be such a commonly stolen item, I suppose it is a neccessity and relatively easy to steal compared to bulkier items.
 
When I used to work in a supermarket, it was stolen frequently, probably second to car air fresheners which got cleaned out all the time (the expensive ones, I'm not talking about a scented tree). Sensodyne is the most expensive, and is probably down at your local (dodgy) market. You can usually pick up cosmetics/ toiletries at about half price. Or eBay. There's one particular seller on there who makes a living by stealing from supermarkets.
 
There is defintely nothing in Sensodyne that is used in the manufacture of methamphetamine or amphetamine that is not available ,cheaper and easier to get being it as is..the pottasium chloride is sometimes used in some older more involved methamphetamine synthesis but requires a high quality lab grade amount of high amounts of the pottasium chloride like a 80%+ purity of the chemical which is then processed to make it 90+% to be usable and that is so time consuming and there are so many qicker cheaper ,more effiecient sythesis for both amphetamine and methamphetamine that no one would waste all the effort to steal toothpaste which would have to be put through about 6 series of seperation and reduction reactions to even have the small quantity of pottasium chloride that would then have to go through yet another series of complex chemical reastion to purify it and one would have to spend $1000's on the chemicals to even do a crude extraction and purification and it would take 10,000 tubes or more to make what you be obtained for 1/1000th of $1 legally ..so its an urban myth or bullshit as far as using it in any meth/amphetamine sythesis or any synthesis of any kind i can think off and i can think of a whole lot..lol good day to you all..from an american looking about in here who knows a few things about a few things..lol Good Day all
 
Potassium chloride in meth synthesis? A brief explanation would be good. I don't mean specific details, just it's role would suffice. If you imply it's use in the generation of HCl gas then ordinary non-iodised table salt would suffice. The only other possible use that comes to mind is to prepare KOH to make KI, but that would seem very long and involved when KOH is available otc.
 
Yeah urban myth. $9 toothpaste would have a great resale value & small enough to dack a number of them at one time. Incidently Gillette MachIII razor blades used to be the most stolen item in supermarkets... or maybe 'highest monetary loss' over a given period . They are small and insanely expensive. Packaging may have been changed to prevent easy theft.
 
When I was working at a supermarket, razors had packets that would set off the alarms. The security function was meant to be disabled when you swiped them but at least half the time it didn't and customers would freak out when the alarms would go off when they walked through with their bags.

Phase_dancer: Maybe he is confused with a methcathinone synthesis? That uses KCl I'm fairly sure and it's one of the contaminants you have to worry about ending up in the final product.
 
i also work in a supermarket and yeah.. everything and anything gets stolen.

toothpaste (of any brand), razor blades are usually ripped out of the packet so that they don't set off the alarms but the plastic packets need scissors to be opened so they are stolen less and batteries are of course the most stolen items.

but it is interesting that whenever there is a festival coming up quite a few vix inhalers will get stolen with the packets shoved into hiding places... so there is a link between drug users and stealing haha
 
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