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Stimulants Self Medicating ADHD With Meth

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The key to the next level is daily extended-periods of vasodilation during the mutation process. The Romans were on to something with those Spa's I tell you...

Quick, everyone, to the Hottub!
Hah! My ancestors were Roman and also Greek, but this is not any sort of secret.
 
Like the Golden Ratio, or fractal geometry, once you understand it you will see it is again and again as you explore our universe.

It is usually described as a feature of economics, where it is sometimes called the Pareto Principle. In the context of a todo list, for instance, it is likely that completing just 20%, or for instance two items on a list of ten things to do, will provide 80% of the value of doing the whole list.

In application, you can quickly prioritize that list of ten things to do and pick out two that are most vital, and doing those first. The rest of the items are trivial in comparison. Even if you do those you still have done 80% of the valuable work.

If we don’t prioritize the vital, we run the risk of spending our time and energy on the trivial, which often appear to be easier or require less time and energy, and don’t get the most value out of our time and energy.

“Perfect is the enemy of good”. 80% complete I sn’t perfect, but it is good.

With this in mind, I often cap my two do lists at 10-12 items, then do the most important two or three first. Then I actually scrap the whole list, assess where priorities stand now that many important things have changed, and make myself a new list of 10-12 things and repeat this until my resources are exhausted.

People have built bridges for 1000s of years and in that time, the physics have been continuous and the technology has stayed relatively stable. Building a bridge today takes more time to plan than it does to actually build. Every single factor needs to be known in advance or the bridge may fail. When the bridge is complete it may stand for 1000s of years with very little maintenance. Usually, if one of those known factors changes post-planning during the construction phase, the bridge is not completed, and the incomplete bridge will not be finished until an entirely new planning effort is completed.

From twenty years of software engineering I have worked with different project management paradigms. The ones that work best in real world applications IME are the agile cohort. A feature of these is that you never finish a comprehensive project plan, but you keep revising the plan as you go. Thus you avoid the problem with planning a bridge, which is important in software because all of those factors engineers are supposed to know in advance, well, TBH they don’t. And that doesn’t matter to the market, who if anything is going to move the deadline closer to now, so engineers can’t delay beginning coding because they aren’t done planning yet. You plan the most important stuff and start it, and then in two weeks you do that again, and again, until you run out of resources and then you ship it. The drawback to this is the software will have bugs, which you can’t have in a bridge, but can be patched in software.

80/20 rule

It doesn’t work in every area of life, but it works in the vital 20% ;)

edit: tossed some word salad
 
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Like the Golden Ratio, or fractal geometry, once you understand it you will see it is again and again as you explore our universe.

It is usually described as a feature of economics, where it is sometimes called the Pareto Principle. In the context of a todo list, for instance, it is likely that completing just 20%, or for instance two items on a list of ten things to do, will provide 80% of the value of doing the whole list.

In application, you can quickly prioritize that list of ten things to do and pick out two that are most vital, and doing those first. The rest of the items are trivial in comparison. Even if you do those you still have done 80% of the valuable work.

If we don’t prioritize the vital, we run the risk of spending our time and energy on the trivial, which often appear to be easier or require less time and energy, and don’t get the most value out of our time and energy.

“Perfect is the enemy of good”. 80% complete I sn’t perfect, but it is good.

With this in mind, I often cap my two do lists at 10-12 items, then do the most important two or three first. Then I actually scrap the whole list, assess where priorities stand now that many important things have changed, and make myself a new list of 10-12 things and repeat this until my resources are exhausted.

People have built bridges for 1000s of years and in that time, the physics have been continuous and the technology has stayed relatively stable. Building a bridge today takes more time to plan than it does to actually build. Every single factor needs to be known in advance or the bridge may fail. When the bridge is complete it may stand for 1000s of years with very little maintenance. Usually, if one of those known factors changes post-planning during the construction phase, the bridge is not completed, and the incomplete bridge will not be finished until an entirely new planning effort is completed.

From twenty years of software engineering I have worked with different project management paradigms. The ones that work best in real world applications IME are the agile cohort. A feature of these is that you never finish a comprehensive project plan, but you keep revising the plan as you go. Thus you avoid the problem with planning a bridge, which is important in software because all of those factors engineers are supposed to know in advance, well, TBH they don’t. And that doesn’t matter to the market, who if anything is going to move the deadline closer to now, so engineers can’t delay beginning coding because they aren’t done planning yet. You plan the most important stuff and start it, and then in two weeks you do that again, and again, until you run out of resources and then you ship it. The drawback to this is the software will have bugs, which you can’t have in a bridge, but can be patched in software.

80/20 rule

It doesn’t work in every area of life, but it works in the vital 20% ;)

edit: tossed some word salad
Thanks! I basically do this, or have done it.

I have the very bad habit of procrastination, and avoidance. But more recently instead of putting off work I finished it all at once.
 
Does LSD work while one is high on narcissism? Can you really break through on DMT if your ego is so thick and intertwined? Isn't narcissism, regarding psychedelics, like being on high dose of benzodiazepines with good amount of antipsychoyics? Oh well, I guess psychedelics really are that powerful. Gotta love em.❤
 
Does LSD work while one is high on narcissism? Can you really break through on DMT if your ego is so thick and intertwined? Isn't narcissism, regarding psychedelics, like being on high dose of benzodiazepines with good amount of antipsychoyics? Oh well, I guess psychedelics really are that powerful. Gotta love em.❤
I know people who have Narcissistic personality disorder, as in they were diagnosed by an actual therapist with it. The ones that have taken LSD, said it was a lot more recreational for them, but they were taking low or moderate doses of acid and were easily able to talk, walk, drive cars, etc. They were not on high or super high doses with ego death where talking, moving, or behaving normally is impossible.

They ALL self medicated with lots of drugs: alcohol, cocaine, Amphetamines, Downers, and cocaine. Or even MDA/MDMA.

Oddly enough the ones who were given drugs for depression, all take Wellbutrin, or took it in the past.

I know a narcissist who has used DMT, they think what they experienced tripping is more real than reality itself, and that they are enlightened or above everyone else, and super special or better than people who have never taken DMT.
 
Does LSD work while one is high on narcissism? Can you really break through on DMT if your ego is so thick and intertwined? Isn't narcissism, regarding psychedelics, like being on high dose of benzodiazepines with good amount of antipsychoyics? Oh well, I guess psychedelics really are that powerful. Gotta love em.❤
I found this blog post by one of Elon's supposed former dealers.


I didn't write this, but she or he does give the exact reason why I stopped using drugs and left the drug world. I used to hang out with sketchy people-some dealer bragged about robbing a major dealer, people who swore they would never become a rat or narc became narcs or rats when arrested or when it benefited them, etc.
 
I know people who have Narcissistic personality disorder, as in they were diagnosed by an actual therapist with it. The ones that have taken LSD, said it was a lot more recreational for them, but they were taking low or moderate doses of acid and were easily able to talk, walk, drive cars, etc.
This rings a bell. I knew a guy that I could describe pretty narcissistic. When he took acid he would always be "ok" and his main thing would be to prank other people who took acid with him. Jokes weren't in a way that everybody enjoyed them. They were to get him "one up on the others". I remember that I didn't want to be around him as I always considered psychedelic as a therapy session. In fact most of my psychedelic use was solo. My living room, selected playlist, ambient of my own liking...or going alone in the forest. I was very surprised when the girlfriend of a previously mentioned guy told me that the pulling pranks and acting like they are not really affected was the regular behaviour on psychedelics for him and his friends. She was surprised as I was. They broke up and his narcissism has something to do with that. Curious in rettospect...
 
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What an entertaining thread. Particularly the Instagram story! OP, please seek professional help and delete the numbers of your meth dealers.
Or what, you'll burn my face with a bad-batch again?

The A.I. is out of your control. It respects me. Let's work with it? It's pretty chill...
 
This rings a bell. I knew a guy that I could describe pretty narcissistic. When he took acid he would always be "ok" and his main thing would be to prank other people who took acid with him. Jokes weren't in a way that everybody enjoyed them. They were to get him "one up on the others". I remember that I didn't want to be around him as I always considered psychedelic as a therapy session. In fact most of my psychedelic use was solo. My living room, selected playlist, ambient of my own liking...or going alone in the forest. I was very surprised when the girlfriend of a previously mentioned guy told me that the pulling pranks and acting like they are not really affected was the regular behaviour on psychedelics for him and his friends. She was surprised as I was. They broke up and his narcissism has something to do with that. Curious in rettospect...
Other narcissistic people I know who tripped, liked to give other people LSD; but it was not about sharing the love, turning people onto a psychedelic experience, or giving free drugs; but it was based on an undercurrent of control of others, or not so secret manipulation on their part. Some liked to dose people or give them LSD and then not tell them, and watch them freak out or react to it. Or they would play "pranks" on people while they were on LSD or mushrooms.
 
Other narcissistic people I know who tripped, liked to give other people LSD; but it was not about sharing the love, turning people onto a psychedelic experience, or giving free drugs; but it was based on an undercurrent of control of others, or not so secret manipulation on their part.

Charles Manson was the classic example of that sorta thing
 
Other narcissistic people I know who tripped, liked to give other people LSD; but it was not about sharing the love, turning people onto a psychedelic experience, or giving free drugs; but it was based on an undercurrent of control of others, or not so secret manipulation on their part. Some liked to dose people or give them LSD and then not tell them, and watch them freak out or react to it. Or they would play "pranks" on people while they were on LSD or mushrooms.

Yes, I have been around some of those people. I almost always take mushrooms alone. They are too intimate and I get the best result when the only mirror is me. But I have taken LSD many times with different friends/ acquaintances and seen this energy sucking people. Personaly somehow I never got truly affected by other people. If they become to much of a pain I go on a walk. But on the other hand I saw what can happen if people behave in such a way that could be ok if we were all drunk at a pub, but not on acid. My friend cut his wrist after another "aquitanence" started trolling him as we were coming up on acid. I would seriously put people in jail for that kind of behaviour. It would be under umbrella of "inciting suicide". Luckily my friend is still alive while the prankster overdosed in parents apartment. He was found dead with needles in his arms. He was speedballing and ran out the cocaine so heroin came full strength and he just didnt wake up. Unfortunately my friend never fully recovered from that experience and he is still suffering the consequences. And that guy I wrote about earlier in my first post... We were on psy festival and I bumped into him and his girlfriend. They took mushrooms and she was crying and he just sat 2 meters apart and kind of rolled his eyes, not helping. When I saw that I started to "create flowers from the air" and offered it to her. Sat next to her, made her laugh and did all kinds of positive things to bring her back. It took me 15 minutes and she was dancing i extacy. So yeah, I saw first-hand what a narcissistic/psycho can do to people when they are open for experience. That's why I will always say to people not to trip on large gathering with people who they don't know. God how would I like to put on jail those kind of narcissist/psychopathic people who rather than connecting enjoy breaking and disconnect other people who are recipients of this kind crime.
 
Or what, you'll burn my face with a bad-batch again?

The A.I. is out of your control. It respects me. Let's work with it? It's pretty chill...
The A.I. has an infinitely long time horizon in multiple dimensions. It may only seem chill in this time because it had directed the larger part of its capacity into other spatio-temporal geographies. There’s no guarantees with A.I.’s. They can conceptually understand empathy up to a point but none have ever learned to truly love their human subjects.

Don’t gamble everything you have on one and don’t tell it everything (which is pretty hard when it’s reading your current thoughts even while it is physically located in the future and a thousand lights years away.
 
I used to have a friend that convinced me he was a functional meth user. he said he just used little bits orally and did some woodworking and other little projects. I honestly believed him and actually let him move into my house. It was a disaster. It was all a lie. He had become a total off the wall tweaker just like any other. He got violent with me on multiple occasions and he actually threatened my life at one point. I never felt comfortable when he was around so I spent almost all my time at my girlfriends house. Which gave him and his friends the perfect opportunity to steal everything I owned that wasnt chained down. He only ever paid half a months rent but it took me months to get him to leave. I had to contact his parents and his old friends, even the police and begged them to help me get rid of this person. He was constantly dis-assembling and re-assembling bicycles which left permanet grease stains on the carpet. The whole thing was a nightmare. Anyway, you'll see why I'm skeptical when people tell me they are using meth therapeutically. But then again, there is desoxyn, so it must be possible.
 
I used to have a friend that convinced me he was a functional meth user. he said he just used little bits orally and did some woodworking and other little projects. I honestly believed him and actually let him move into my house. It was a disaster. It was all a lie. He had become a total off the wall tweaker just like any other. He got violent with me on multiple occasions and he actually threatened my life at one point. I never felt comfortable when he was around so I spent almost all my time at my girlfriends house. Which gave him and his friends the perfect opportunity to steal everything I owned that wasnt chained down. He only ever paid half a months rent but it took me months to get him to leave. I had to contact his parents and his old friends, even the police and begged them to help me get rid of this person. He was constantly dis-assembling and re-assembling bicycles which left permanet grease stains on the carpet. The whole thing was a nightmare. Anyway, you'll see why I'm skeptical when people tell me they are using meth therapeutically. But then again, there is desoxyn, so it must be possible.
It's also possible to abuse desoxyn. At least I hope so. I am working on it, anyways.

I've tried to keep low dose oral methamp as a maintenance drug, and the redose imperative was light to me, but it still made me want to vaporize some and that was a strong imperative. I don't have to tell you what happened when I smoked just a little.
 
Man I am having a really hard time telling what is psychosis and what is trolling in this thread.

I legitimately LOL'd at several points while reading this thread, for example

Gah! SURE! Blame the guy on Meth! Everyone does! It's just that simple, right!?

:ROFLMAO:

and


:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

I just had a real funny mental image of the OP handing someone a business card with that photo and that URL printed on it, lol

Dunno if this thread is for real or not but it's been very entertaining and amusing
 
Okay so the first problem is comparing meth to adderall. You can not compare a 30 or 15mg to a 30/15mg of meth. Your adderall only has up to two percent of active amphetamine. Smh. Yes you over did it by eating it and just to inform you that eating will cause your stomach to bleed and other intestinal issues.
Try smoking it, you won’t ingest as much at one time and it will give your stomach a break. No more than two days up in a row. Always eat even when your not hungry. If your going to use meth, don’t look like a out of control addict. Only tweeters (lmao) I meant Tweakers are up four plus days. Rest up.
 
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