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Studies have shown that taking more than 700mg is the point where neurotoxicity is more of a problem.
 
180mg was really really really really intense for me, In a great way but i dont honestly thing or feel i need to go any harder than that lol.

150mg is intense and very euphoric , what i like to take,
StrutterGear do you do that dose in one go yeah?
thats what i do in a capsule, no bad taste then.
 
Lol no way would I take that much in one go. I know MDMA is like Acid, it's best to take it culmitively but I'm a seriel re-doser. I'll drop 150mg, and keeping dropping 100mgs till its gone or the nights over. Usually end up 300-500mg. I never get 'more fucked', just the longetivity increases. Then again, in the interest of harm reduction, you shouldnt be rolling more than 4 hours, not 8 hours, but thats just how it ends up :)
 
StrutterGear said:
Lol no way would I take that much in one go. I know MDMA is like Acid, it's best to take it culmitively but I'm a seriel re-doser. I'll drop 150mg, and keeping dropping 100mgs till its gone or the nights over. Usually end up 300-500mg. I never get 'more fucked', just the longetivity increases. Then again, in the interest of harm reduction, you shouldnt be rolling more than 4 hours, not 8 hours, but thats just how it ends up :)
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lmao im exactly the same... Ill drop like 250mgs over an hour, then keep taking more as needed. Doing over a 500mgs or a gram in a night isnt anything THAT uncommon, its just really really really bad for you
 
^ then again, so is mcdonalds....but millions of people eat that shit like it's going out of style.


and I see so many people on this forum recommending 5-htp...I've gotta go the other way and recommend against it. There's some evidence it could be cardiotoxic. Instead of supplying your brain with serotonin, the 5-htp gets converted all throughout your blood stream by enzymes resulting in serotonin floating around where you really don't want it. I think <2% actually gets converted in the brain.

Look into tryptophan, or, even better, eat a healthy diet rich in lean protein.
 
Look into tryptophan, or, even better, eat a healthy diet rich in lean protein.
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This is spot on,

People take too many supplements :)

Lol no way would I take that much in one go. I know MDMA is like Acid, it's best to take it culmitively but I'm a seriel re-doser. I'll drop 150mg, and keeping dropping 100mgs till its gone or the nights over. Usually end up 300-500mg. I never get 'more fucked', just the longetivity increases. Then again, in the interest of harm reduction, you shouldnt be rolling more than 4 hours, not 8 hours, but thats just how it ends up
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I only do one dose,
no eating pills in half
No dabbing mdma,

Just one capsule, no more , 150mg as i say
 
cryptix420 said:
^ then again, so is mcdonalds....but millions of people eat that shit like it's going out of style.


and I see so many people on this forum recommending 5-htp...I've gotta go the other way and recommend against it. There's some evidence it could be cardiotoxic. Instead of supplying your brain with serotonin, the 5-htp gets converted all throughout your blood stream by enzymes resulting in serotonin floating around where you really don't want it. I think <2% actually gets converted in the brain.

Look into tryptophan, or, even better, eat a healthy diet rich in lean protein.
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But cheeseburgers wont destroy your Serotonin system like rolling hardcore every weekend or two will


MDMA is a very destructive drug when used often, but when its spread out like your supposed to it will probably improve your life... it all just depends on the extent that you use them, like cheeseburgers :)



oh and on the supplements, their just like those old "Cure-alls" they used to sell in the 1900s... they wont do much of anything. Dont rely on drugs to fix you if drugs are what messed you up in the first place
 
I wonder if you will agree with me on this Folley,

I think most of the negatives that come with using mdma, are mainly because of the frequent redosing people do,
maybe if they just did one dose then they wouldnt suffer as much.
 
To a certain extent I do, I think redosing will speed up serotonin depletion very very fast, especially the people who take it crazy and roll for a couple days in a row... I know if I didnt redose as often I would have been a lot better off

but I think the amount you use and how often you use it matters the most. Most people wont notice ANY negative effects from using MDMA until very far down the line, when its too late, so they just keep rolling balls every weekend trying to get higher than last time (at least thats what I did..)
 
Folley said:
lmao im exactly the same... Ill drop like 250mgs over an hour, then keep taking more as needed. Doing over a 500mgs or a gram in a night isnt anything THAT uncommon, its just really really really bad for you
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Same man, it's all about self control at the end of the day. I can get on it 3 weekends in a row and then not touch it for 6 months, or 1 month or however long. I do it when I want, I eat healthy and look after myself. As soon as you think you cant do without it, or start thinking " I really wanna roll when I'm doing fuck all at home this weekend" it becomes a problem (note, I roll at home, but not due to boredom). It damages you more, but me downing a dozen vodka red bulls and as many budweisers and jagerbombs does me damage too. I've never woken up after taking MDMA and wanted to throw myself out of my window cause I feel that shit, but alcohol does that to me every time.
 
With the mdma,, It says that the excess serotonin that is left over then plays on the dopamine system, which i see on a BBC video too.

This could possibly explain why post loading makes a roll last longer too,
If your brain has released a lot of serotonin within then the chances are its going to hang around longer and play with the dopamine system.
 
Folley said:
But cheeseburgers wont destroy your Serotonin system like rolling hardcore every weekend or two will

MDMA is a very destructive drug when used often, but when its spread out like your supposed to it will probably improve your life... it all just depends on the extent that you use them, like cheeseburgers :)
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Well now we're just talking about personal preference. See I can handle a few weeks of an emotional roller coaster, perhaps some tiredness and a headache or two. What I can't handle is pumping my body full of preservatives, artificial colors/flavors, high levels of sodium, HFCS, trans fats, MSG, hormones, or antibiotics. You are what you eat..


No matter how many cheeseburgers you eat, it's not going to improve your life, save the temporary dopamine release. It's all bad with burgers.


MDMA, when used responsibly, can infer many benefits to the user without any negative side effects.
 
Alright, so I did not make it to the event today, I decided I would do this dose, without a 2C, have it be my last time for a month at least. I've had some issues going on and intended to use it as a tool to address them...very successful. I know it was at least 175mg, but it didn't feel nearly as strong as the last dose i had taken. Possibly I simply enjoyed the MDA more, while I had the massive euphoric rush, it seemed to subside sooner rather than lingering for the entire time, I'm assuming this is from using it too often.

This was very good stuff so to take 175mg at once was intense, moving/dancing was hard. I had to lay in my bed overwhelmed by the rush for an hour texting, totally floored.. This was obviously very very pure MDMA, my eyes were shaking and my vision filled with color blooms and OEVs, and closing my eyes was simply indescribable.

I did bumps...I would say I did at the very least 125-150mg insufflated over the period of 5-6 hours after dosing. My vision shook uncontrollably.
I really felt the need to do those bumps to keep the roll going, I was in incredibly deep conversations with a couple of girls I've known for years now. I was simply flooded with emotions and connectedness... One very sad and one very exciting, and eventful.

I decided I had to come down at some point...however a part of me wishes I had kept on going, I was much better able to communicate with people about issues and found I now feel very frustrated about all of that. I started to drink and pop xanax, regretted it almost immediately. I should have gone the full nine yards.

This drug is incredible. It's like therapy in a pill... LSD is the same way for me. I only wish it was viable more often.

But I definitely have to say choosing to take it again so soon was a mistake. I regret it... I could have gotten much more out of the same amount had I waited an extra week or two. I have a feeling I'm going to be pretty depressed for the next couple of days
 
Now I don't roll every 2 weeks but I do roll once every 6-8 weeks. And when I do I dose heavy, Usually 150mgs to start off, then 100mg redoses at 2 three hour marks. Keeps me going for a solid 8 hours. And I roll dick for a solid 8 hours. I've been doin this for 9 months now. I've done back to back roll days twice. Never had a bad comedown, never had depression, I don't become braindead, never had anything other then a nice afterglow. I wake up the next morning with little or no feeling as if I'd done any sort of drug the night before. Maybe I'm just lucky, but personally as long as I give a decent enough break between my rolls, I can go hard and be fine the next day and coming weeks. It all seems to fall from person to person.
 
Rolliepollieollie7 said:
Now I don't roll every 2 weeks but I do roll once every 6-8 weeks. And when I do I dose heavy, Usually 150mgs to start off, then 100mg redoses at 2 three hour marks. Keeps me going for a solid 8 hours. And I roll dick for a solid 8 hours. I've been doin this for 9 months now. I've done back to back roll days twice. Never had a bad comedown, never had depression, I don't become braindead, never had anything other then a nice afterglow. I wake up the next morning with little or no feeling as if I'd done any sort of drug the night before. Maybe I'm just lucky, but personally as long as I give a decent enough break between my rolls, I can go hard and be fine the next day and coming weeks. It all seems to fall from person to person.
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This is almost situational... I actually may wake up feeling better tomorrow. I don't think I'm in any state to judge that tonight. I've gotten quite a few nice afterglows, though. My comedown was really smooth. I definitely need a break, though.
 
Watch out with 2C-T-2 and other stuff. There is some MAOI activity with many of the 2C-T-x substances.

I personally wait 2-3 months. I'm currently using bk-MDMA but I would assume that it would be relevant for this topic.
 
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