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Regional pills/MDMA Discussion: Nae vendor discussion.

Guys the telegraph article was written last January. Though it jogged my addled memory when I read it
 
Sprout said:
If you have a better explanation I am legit all ears.
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Dunno about better but most people why try pills are in their late teens early twenties, at a time when the body is still growing and you have your hormones rushing through your body.

Once you grow up that stops, you can't drink beer like you used to be able to nor will pills have the same effect again.

I used to be able to do 2 days running on them, that's long gone.
I used to be able to spunk my load three times a day.
I used to be able to drink like a fish and function normally the next day.
etc...

Not very well explained but I hope you get the drift.
 
A lot of new releases lately. Cherries/Xmas trees in blue and orange, pink teslas, white fast forwards, blue yin and yangs, yellow jumbo bars, yellow clovers... All new and over 200mg. Crazy variety now you could literally buy 10 different kinds from one supplier.
 
I do get your drift and I agree but I think you're referring solely to the 'old skool' ('87-99') pills being used and compared 20 years after the fact. That is not the debate at hand. The current discussion is regarding the comparison of the two major labs' product - there is a significant and undeniable difference in effect profile.
I'm 21 and thus cannot comment regarding the 90's pills, but I can comment on the current era.
When we refer to 'Dutch' product we are talking of the group distributing it not its country of manufacture. I don't think anyone is naive enough to think the UFO's were synthed in Manchester, it is simply the Manc crew who control them and this wonderful city always gets the first taste. Gotta love this place. ;)

The 'Dutch' product feels like half the experience is missing, no matter the dose, and particularly the empathy and euphoria.
The 'Manchester' gear hits like a euphoric steamtrain in the unique way we all love at 100-150mg.

Think of MPA and MDAI: alone they aren't worth a wank but the combination is so much better than you could imagine if just looking at them solo.
MDMA has a stimulatory isomer and a serotonergic isomer, the former is the MPA and the latter is the MDAI in this analogy.
MDAI is 'sedating', 'mongy' and 'lacking' because a massive SE flood isn't in itself euphoric. Adding a stimulant that hits DAT and NET makes it infinitely more euphoric as there is a physical push towards the activities that SE magnifies.

If the composition of the MDMA is majority homoiroisomeric it will feel incomplete even if the desired S- comformation makes up the largest portion. It will feel just better than MDAI.
(R,S-)MDMA is a triple releasing agent and its effects are not simply from hitting SERT, as many think.
 
Dutch lions still seem around so those that agree they are good, why are you not stocking up ?

Blue, Peach, Red all out there
 
Sprout said:
The 'Dutch' product feels like half the experience is missing, no matter the dose, and particularly the empathy and euphoria.
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I've got to say I don't find that at all. I find plenty of energy and empathy from the 'dutch' pills I've taken, and I'm certainly not a newcomer to taking pills. Maybe I've been lucky but I still get loved up and full of euphoria in a club, and see so many people around me just the same, invariably on similar 'dutch' pills or md, so it isn't just me.
 
Sprodo said:
Dutch lions still seem around so those that agree they are good, why are you not stocking up ?

Blue, Peach, Red all out there
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Worried the Red ones are copy cats + the reports from the deaths at Cream kind of put me off. I have no testing kit at the minute either.
 
Sprout said:
I do get your drift and I agree but I think you're referring solely to the 'old skool' ('87-99') pills being used and compared 20 years after the fact.
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Nopes, people taking pills which are meant to be sub 5 years ago better then than they are now.
It's always been the same story.

When we refer to 'Dutch' product we are talking of the group distributing it not its country of manufacture.
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That is my bad, I misunderstood.

Think of MPA and MDAI: alone they aren't worth a wank but the combination is so much better than you could imagine if just looking at them solo.
MDMA has a stimulatory isomer and a serotonergic isomer, the former is the MPA and the latter is the MDAI in this analogy.
MDAI is 'sedating', 'mongy' and 'lacking' because a massive SE flood isn't in itself euphoric. Adding a stimulant that hits DAT and NET makes it infinitely more euphoric as there is a physical push towards the activities that SE magnifies.

If the composition of the MDMA is majority homoiroisomeric it will feel incomplete even if the desired S- comformation makes up the largest portion. It will feel just better than MDAI.
(R,S-)MDMA is a triple releasing agent and its effects are not simply from hitting SERT, as many think.
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With all of that I don't quite agree, we've had similar discussions years ago.
 
Surely this time is different from the previous claims as we have proof - the marquis reaction goes jet black now as opposed to purple, it's changed.
 
I'd be happy if I could even still buy 2C-I anywhere in powder or pill format. I'd rate it as good as MDMA for clubbing on. So much energy and euphoria from it.
 
Got some of this from my usual UK supplier. Stinks of aniseed, giving it a whirl tomorrow. Apologies for the shit picture

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Same supply line as the nipples?
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No, this is a different supplier who doesn't stock the nipple pills. I've also tried some of his 'yellow strawberries' which are around 120 - 150mg a pop and a very nice. Very energetic!

I shall let you know the result this evening, going to pop a cap after dinner. Coming down with a cold though, so keeping the dose low :)
 
Had that stuff too mate that was IMO the best UK sourced batch, but what I had didn't look like that. Nice one though SR I reckon you will have fun, supposed to be the same MDMA in the mercedes and blue deception pills I think.

Got a big day tomorrow but I think a few of us are also going to drop later on if the plan goes ahead. I'm probably going to keep it to 125mg and hope it's good stuff. We will see. %)
 
Has anyone had the orange under armours? Got some today but I've heard mixed reports, and I've not got a tester kit unfortunately
 
MiniNapalm said:
Some interesting results here: http://www.checkyourdrugs.at/media/checkit_Warnungen_0116.pdf
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Chloromethcathinone sold as MDMA? Lolololol.
I can understand 4-FA and Amphet though.

What intrigues me is the presence of Phenacetin. Not sure if it's from the decomposition of Paracetamol, a cheap cut from one of the very few countries that still use it or, most worryingly, a toxic leftover from the synthesis of one of the Phenacetamides - borderline inactive toxic shite that idiotic wannabe chemists get fascinated by due to the synth being about as difficult as a 7 year old's Maths homework.
 
SilentRoller said:
No, this is a different supplier who doesn't stock the nipple pills. I've also tried some of his 'yellow strawberries' which are around 120 - 150mg a pop and a very nice. Very energetic!

I shall let you know the result this evening, going to pop a cap after dinner. Coming down with a cold though, so keeping the dose low :)
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Are the strawberries Dutch beans?
I had a few green strawberries (supposedly 100-150mg spread) last year and they were pretty good. Definitely much better than other Dutch pills like Kitty's, Audis and a little bit better than the rainbow drops.

Seems like the lower dosed beans I had last year had better quality mdma in them, which could be something to consider ?
 
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